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01/26/2005 03:00:33 PM · #1
Just wondering...and maybe complaining...this is my current status:
Votes: 64
Views: 80
Avg Vote: 5.0000
Comments: 0
Favorites: 0
Wish Lists: 0
Updated: 01/26/05 02:00 pm

I know this is just the first day of voting but, I have 80 views...(why don't people vote when they view)...and 64 votes...but NO comments.

I really try and comment on most of the images I vote on (and I voted on 100% this time). Anyone have any insight on this? By the way...Good luck to all
01/26/2005 03:06:03 PM · #2
to answer your question about views and voting.. a lot of people will come back to an image a few times to try and get a better feel for it before voting. Others will view the challenge entries first, then come back and vote later.. and others will just view them and not vote for many different reasons. (not being a member, not having a camera, don't feel qualified, whatever).

That's why there's always more views than votes. More so in the member challenges since non-members *can't* vote, but can look.
01/26/2005 03:09:32 PM · #3
I would just be glad that people view but don't vote. I would far rather people spent time to consider their votes than simply rushing through committing their first reactions to the score.

E
01/26/2005 03:39:10 PM · #4
Thanks to both of you, I guess that makes since, I have often changed my vote after I got through them all.
01/26/2005 03:44:20 PM · #5
I go through from front to back in one sweep the night the challenge closes, assigning all images a vote of 4 or 6. The 6's are the above average pool, the 4's are the average and below, based on my initial reactions when I view the images.

I then go back and review the 6's, moving them up a step at a time as warranted, and occasionally down to 5. See below for my incremental sorting process.

When I have the top pile sorted, I go back and review the 4's, moving many to 5 and some down to 3. Occasionally a 2 or 1... Sometimes I don't finish the 4's pile, it depends how many entries there are.

Finally I go back and start viewing images again, commenting upon those that move me to comment. So in my case, high-rated images may have been viewed by me 3, 4, 5, or 6 times before I'm done with them, as I sort, since I sort upwards incrementally; move a bunch of 6's to 7, then some of the 7's to 8, and some of the 8's to 9, and some of the 9's to 10.

I have noticed that the better a picture does, the more disproportionate is its views-to-votes ratio. When views-to-votes is anywhere near equality, the picture is interesting very few people and is not going to do very well. When there are WAY more views than votes, that's usually a high-scoring image, and at least one that makes people come back and look at it over and over again, which means it stands out in some way.

So when I see thsi disparity, it cheers me up; even if the image isn't scoring that well, it's making people look. I am disappointed when I can't make them look. Which seems to be happening a lot, I might mention...

Robt.

Message edited by author 2005-01-26 15:44:46.
01/26/2005 04:59:24 PM · #6
Originally posted by bear_music:

I have noticed that the better a picture does, the more disproportionate is its views-to-votes ratio. When views-to-votes is anywhere near equality, the picture is interesting very few people and is not going to do very well. When there are WAY more views than votes, that's usually a high-scoring image, and at least one that makes people come back and look at it over and over again, which means it stands out in some way.

So when I see thsi disparity, it cheers me up; even if the image isn't scoring that well, it's making people look. I am disappointed when I can't make them look. Which seems to be happening a lot, I might mention...

Robt.

I pretty much agree -- my current stats:

Votes: 294
Views: 400
Avg Vote: 4.9150
Comments: 8
01/26/2005 05:12:54 PM · #7
Originally posted by GeneralE:


I pretty much agree -- my current stats:

Votes: 294
Views: 400
Avg Vote: 4.9150
Comments: 8


Weird, my current:

Votes: 92
Views: 111
Avg Vote: 5.5652

Obviously your image is far more interesting in thumbnail than mine! I wouldn't have expected the big difference though...

Cheers, Me.
01/26/2005 05:17:27 PM · #8
Originally posted by KiwiChris:

Originally posted by GeneralE:


I pretty much agree -- my current stats:

Votes: 294
Views: 400
Avg Vote: 4.9150
Comments: 8


Weird, my current:

Votes: 92
Views: 111
Avg Vote: 5.5652

Obviously your image is far more interesting in thumbnail than mine! I wouldn't have expected the big difference though...

Cheers, Me.


Oye, GeneralE, are you reporting from old and new? thats a lot more views and votes than i've had!

here i am ... actually a bit better than expected but falling steadily from 5.7xxx early today. (so there's hope for my expectation to be met!)

Votes: 82
Views: 114
Avg Vote: 5.5854
Comments: 0

interesting challenge...
01/26/2005 05:19:04 PM · #9
I think he's reporting from another challenge. I'm in the range with all the rest, and he's 4 times higher in views and votes? Hmmm.
01/26/2005 05:19:48 PM · #10
Votes: 84
Views: 107
Avg Vote: 4.9286
Comments: 3
01/26/2005 05:20:16 PM · #11
Originally posted by 4score:

I think he's reporting from another challenge. I'm in the range with all the rest, and he's 4 times higher in views and votes? Hmmm.


yes yes...does seem a bit fishy.
01/26/2005 05:46:13 PM · #12
Originally posted by daisy77:

Originally posted by 4score:

I think he's reporting from another challenge. I'm in the range with all the rest, and he's 4 times higher in views and votes? Hmmm.


yes yes...does seem a bit fishy.

Sorry! I wasn't paying close attention to the thread title, just that posting. Those are the stats from my "Best Of ..." entry. Here's the current stats from "Old and New"

Votes: 93
Views: 122
Avg Vote: 4.9677
Comments: 2

Message edited by author 2005-01-26 18:01:24.
01/26/2005 06:13:27 PM · #13
Tanking...engine number 4 is on fire...

Votes 97
Views 124
Avg 4.4
Comments = goose egg
01/26/2005 06:20:31 PM · #14
Votes: 92
Views: 125
Avg Vote: 6.2500
Comments: 2

What can I say except that I'm very happy right now! :)
01/26/2005 07:04:47 PM · #15
Can I just ask how some of you interpreted one particular aspect of this challenge? The 'old & new', for my part, did not have to be the same thing.

Some of the comments I am receiving lead me to believe they had to be.
01/26/2005 07:13:35 PM · #16
Guroos:

Details: Create an image showing a juxtaposition of old and new.

Nothing in that says they have to be the same class of thing to count. But what a voter decides floats his-or-her own boat is another thing. Maybe some people think it's too "easy" to shoot, say, an old sneaker on today's newspaper with the date prominently displayed...

If there's one thing I'm learning about DPC, it's that a significantly large percentage of voters operates with their own particular "filters" in place; they read the challenge, they get (apparently) a mental image of what a "good" entry would be, then downgrade anything that falls outside that conceptual box.

I suspect that it all averages out though; some people prefer bananas, some like oranges, in the end it all balances.

Robt.
01/26/2005 07:16:54 PM · #17
Eloquently put.
01/26/2005 07:16:56 PM · #18
I'm absolutely shocked! (Pleasantly)

Votes: 90
Views: 134
Avg Vote: 5.8778
Comments: 11
Favorites: 1
Wish Lists: 0

I submitted a lackluster pic after a 2nd idea I had bombed. I really wasn't pleased at all with it, but thought, what the heck. This is only my second challenge I've entered in the last year and I tanked in Architecture, so this is really boosting my spirits! yay.
01/26/2005 07:20:36 PM · #19
Votes: 92
Views: 119
Avg Vote: 6.0217
Comments: 0
Updated: 7:00 pm

I was at 6.2 earlier today, fell down to around 5.9, now it seems that I am floating around right where I am at. Wish I could get some comments, I am eager to get some feedback.
01/26/2005 07:55:27 PM · #20
This is a rare instance where I want to change the title of mine. I was submitting at the last moment, and went with a title intended to draw a big black (mental) arrow pointing to how I met the challenge, but it turns out it's not necessarily the "best" title for this picture : )
01/26/2005 08:00:37 PM · #21
Votes:93
Views:116
Avg Vote:4.9247
Comments:5

not my best and i think ppl. don't understand why i let it go alittle soft....i hope that is not saying too much...

_brando_
01/27/2005 08:14:36 AM · #22
Originally posted by guroos:

Can I just ask how some of you interpreted one particular aspect of this challenge? The 'old & new', for my part, did not have to be the same thing.

Some of the comments I am receiving lead me to believe they had to be.


My first impression was that the images should be the same thing just old and new, but after I started voting on them and saw some of the creative ways people (maybe you included) did this, I was mad at myself for not thinking more out of the box. I now know I probably could have done better with this photo I shot totally not thinking of the challenge (although now it has been combined from two pictures to one panoramic and colors changed). Old barn, new snow.

Old Barn New Snow
01/27/2005 09:09:36 AM · #23
[edited]

mk

Message edited by Manic - please dont refer to images being voted upon.
01/27/2005 09:11:49 AM · #24
For anyone new or that doesn't visit or use this site often, it's probably not a good idea to chat about or link your entries during voting. :)
01/27/2005 10:24:06 AM · #25
Im very happy with this.. since its my first challenge.

Votes: 123
Views: 173
Avg Vote: 5.9431
Comments: 5
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