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01/19/2005 02:49:09 PM · #76 |
Look, what gives this challenge the extra interest is that it was rightly presented under basic editing. How the challenge is interpreted will determine the top and low contestants.
There is a lot of talent in DPC and if you take the time to study these images you will be amazed. At least I am.
Now, in a breaking ground challenge you are expected to push the envelope even further. The harder the envelope is pushed the more novel the effect.
To interpret this challenge as someone going out of its environment, ie someine shooting landscape for first time, I guarantee you no landscape will win the top honors. Why? Well, a good landscape wants a faithful reproduction not a twisted look and the technique is well documented.
In my opinion, this is an exciting challenge because it seeks to elicit images that have never existed here. My personal object was to present an image that has no reference at all in the realm of basic editing. I have seen all the images and as usual I am surprised at the talent in DPC. Many of these are not ground breaking at all, but many exhibit good technique and composition. You must also remember that a challenge of this nature will meets its goal if it manages to bring us a handful of interesting images.
However, to penalize members with ones and twos whose entry is not wild breaking new grounds is to stiffle future similar challenges. You must keep in mind that for some perverse reason, we all interpret things in our own unique manner. It is a wonder we communicate at all.lol
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01/19/2005 02:55:14 PM · #77 |
Originally posted by Ivo:
I utilize the challenge topics as a means of exploring the hidden potential in my mundane environment. We were not invited by the "supreme council" to attend a symposium on photography but rather paid $25 to enter a photo playground where we can have fun. There is a bit too much "Sand Kicking" going on in this sandbox and I fear that this attitude may scare away some real talent. |
You can't be thin skinned and expect to enter your artistic endeavers into an open forum without getting hurt.
When you enter your work anywhere, be it online or in a local or international photo contest, you are going ot get feedback. Often times you are not going to like what you hear.
If you get your feelings hurt easily and don't think you should have to put your self through that type of critisism keep your work at home and show it to your mum. She will always tell you what a great photographer you are and you never ever have to hear a bad word about your work again.
Otherwise put your rhino skin on and and come out and play.
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01/19/2005 02:59:41 PM · #78 |
Now, in a breaking ground challenge you are expected to push the envelope even further. The harder the envelope is pushed the more novel the effect.
i think i 'pushed the envelope pretty far' and its a wonder if its not going to be rated under 4 and im not going to complain about that but i im little frustrated about getting no comments (about 100 votes) at all as its obvious a picture to hate or love
soo tell me dammit |
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01/19/2005 03:00:04 PM · #79 |
Originally posted by Ivo:
There is a bit too much "Sand Kicking" going on in this sandbox and I fear that this attitude may scare away some real talent. |
I'm not sure who you're accusing of sand kicking. I thought I was simply saying "don't pee in the sandbox". Or, just as likely, "don't build sandcastles in the bathroom".
"Why?" is your response. "I came here to build sandcastles and I can build them wherever I want. You're being anal by demanding I build them in the appropriate locations".
Absurd. Build your sandcastles, but do so within the broad guidelines of these big sandboxes.
Message edited by author 2005-01-19 15:01:24.
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01/19/2005 03:12:52 PM · #80 |
Originally posted by nsbca7:
You can't be thin skinned and expect to enter your artistic endeavers into an open forum without getting hurt.
When you enter your work anywhere, be it online or in a local or international photo contest, you are going ot get feedback. Often times you are not going to like what you hear.
If you get your feelings hurt easily and don't think you should have to put your self through that type of critisism keep your work at home and show it to your mum. She will always tell you what a great photographer you are and you never ever have to hear a bad word about your work again.
Otherwise put your rhino skin on and and come out and play. |
I feel inspired and by the way, you forgot to slap me on my butt and say "Go get-em Tiger!".
My mommy would have. |
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01/19/2005 03:18:03 PM · #81 |
Originally posted by thatcloudthere:
I'm not sure who you're accusing of sand kicking. I thought I was simply saying "don't pee in the sandbox". Or, just as likely, "don't build sandcastles in the bathroom".
"Why?" is your response. "I came here to build sandcastles and I can build them wherever I want. You're being anal by demanding I build them in the appropriate locations".
Absurd. Build your sandcastles, but do so within the broad guidelines of these big sandboxes. |
I apologize if you feel that I was implicating you as I just meant to make a general comment about the tone in some of these threads.
Now regarding your "Sandcastle" explanation...............can you rephrase that because you lost me and can you send a picture of one so I can judge it's structural integrity?;-) |
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01/19/2005 03:47:00 PM · #82 |
| Just finished reviewing the 'breaking new ground' images. It appears to me that 3/4 of the entrants didn't 'get it'. Out of focus, poorly lit, motion blurs, and just plain lousy results. Of the 1/4 that appear to have understood the challenge, there are some outstanding photographs and a few where the result was probably not worth the effort. Not everyone can be innovative and still get a good result, that is the nature of out of our membership. All in all, a superb effort and congrats to ALL who entered this challenge (I could not get a good enough result to enter anything)! |
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01/19/2005 03:58:13 PM · #83 |
Originally posted by canoe3k:
Enter away, the more comments the better, forget the score. When folks tell you their opinions, you are in class. Forget thier off track comments and focus on what they say that can help you improve.... next month they won't rember the contest but you will have learned from your effort... damn the torpedoes full fstops ahead... |
I pushed myself to comment on some of the images i didnt like and I have to say that its really hard. I end up feeling like a jerk. |
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01/19/2005 04:04:19 PM · #84 |
I pushed myself to comment on some of the images i didnt like and I have to say that its really hard. I end up feeling like a jerk.
Yes, you said mine was a bad photo :) but you did tell me why which is what this place is all about. You are not a jerk.
Votes: 110
Views: 211
Avg Votes 5.8455
Comments: 3
Favorites: 2
Well 2 people like it :)
Message edited by author 2005-01-19 16:46:48.
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01/19/2005 04:38:20 PM · #85 |
Votes: 102
Views: 140
Avg Vote: 4.6373
Comments: 0
Favorites: 0
Wish Lists: 0
Updated: 01/19/05 04:00 pm
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01/19/2005 05:15:11 PM · #86 |
Votes: 106
Views: 166
Avg Vote: 7.2736
Comments: 9
Favorites: 3
I'm still doing great! Tnx to people who stop by and write a comment.
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01/19/2005 06:52:53 PM · #87 |
i just wanted to say..I have been going through and it feels best to vote on the photo as a photo...not how it "meets the challenge" as that is sooo subjective this time...I am voting on each picture by its own merit...regardless of challenge...I feel thats the only way to meet this one.
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01/19/2005 07:14:36 PM · #88 |
Originally posted by okiesisi:
i just wanted to say..I have been going through and it feels best to vote on the photo as a photo...not how it "meets the challenge" as that is sooo subjective this time...I am voting on each picture by its own merit...regardless of challenge...I feel thats the only way to meet this one. |
I have done just that. If the photo pleases me then it gets a high score in this one. I have no way of knowing whether the technique was innovative or not.
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01/19/2005 07:19:30 PM · #89 |
I do feel rather sorry for those few photographer who laboured long and hard to meet the chalenge critera and for those who didn't submit to the challenge because they felt that their ideas would not be judged "ground breaking" enough.
I hope that the winning images have good descriptions of their interpretation of the terms of the challenge to support and justify their entry. If not, why bother with themed challenges ? Lets just have a POTD / POTW contest, and a monthly "open". |
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01/19/2005 10:05:01 PM · #90 |
Originally posted by Fibonacci:
I do feel rather sorry for those few photographer who laboured long and hard to meet the chalenge critera and for those who didn't submit to the challenge because they felt that their ideas would not be judged "ground breaking" enough. |
I do have to say, I have gotten 4 comments so far...but the very first one was simply "not ground-breaking"....well, so much for my new style! hehehe
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01/19/2005 10:23:07 PM · #91 |
| my lord! i just submitted the "straight from the camera" version for this challenge! i'm so embarrased! it is so overexposed and aghhh! somebody kill me! it's such a good photo too..... |
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01/20/2005 03:01:00 AM · #92 |
This challenge encouraged me to go out and try something completely different, however I didn't quite achieve what I was trying to ......score's reflecting that. In a challenge wouldn't it be luverley to have a button you could push to say 'delete my image cos it's c###'!! LOL
Gotta go back out and try again.
sue
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01/20/2005 07:13:53 AM · #93 |
i was just wondering.....I got a comment that doesnt make sense to me. what I mean is that maybe the person mistyped or something...it seriously does not make sense (at least I dont get it)..my question is...can I send this person a message to ask about it, or do I have to wait til the challenge is over?
confuzed,
SiSi
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01/20/2005 07:54:42 AM · #94 |
Originally posted by okiesisi:
i was just wondering.....I got a comment that doesnt make sense to me. what I mean is that maybe the person mistyped or something...it seriously does not make sense (at least I dont get it)..my question is...can I send this person a message to ask about it, or do I have to wait til the challenge is over?
confuzed,
SiSi |
aye send it over, but be nce :D
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01/20/2005 07:59:28 AM · #95 |
I want this challenge again in the summer because I got 2 different shots I wanna try and enter but way to cold to do now.
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01/20/2005 08:41:44 AM · #96 |
Originally posted by okiesisi:
i was just wondering.....I got a comment that doesnt make sense to me. what I mean is that maybe the person mistyped or something...it seriously does not make sense (at least I dont get it)..my question is...can I send this person a message to ask about it, or do I have to wait til the challenge is over?
confuzed,
SiSi |
Most people are fine about it, when you click on their name make sure you read their profile before sending a message. They may leave a comment there saying that they do not want replys to comments during the voting period.
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01/20/2005 08:45:37 AM · #97 |
Originally posted by okiesisi:
i was just wondering.....I got a comment that doesnt make sense to me. what I mean is that maybe the person mistyped or something...it seriously does not make sense (at least I dont get it)..my question is...can I send this person a message to ask about it, or do I have to wait til the challenge is over?
confuzed,
SiSi |
So fr thinks tobe stan
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01/20/2005 08:47:11 AM · #98 |
| Maybe we should be voting on the challenge topics before we vote on the photos:) |
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01/21/2005 03:51:05 PM · #99 |
Hey... could someone at least leave me a comment on why they're voting me low?
Votes: 190
Views: 250
Avg Vote: 4.5000
Comments: 0
Favorites: 0
Wish Lists: 0
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01/21/2005 03:56:25 PM · #100 |
I get questions about or reactions to my comments mid-challenge ALL the time. 'Cuz I make a lot of detailed comments. It seems to be ok to do it, and I've done it myself twice, I think. I'd just be sure to phrase the private message in an utterly non-confrontational way :-)
On the other hand, you could just wait, then ask. Unless there's some hurry?
Robt.
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