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01/02/2005 06:06:44 AM · #1
I hope that someone can advise me on what lens is a must have for the D70?
I'd like to buy an additional lens to my AF-S NIKKOR 18-70mm. What would you recommend?
01/02/2005 06:21:30 AM · #2
Originally posted by Sandymaya:

I hope that someone can advise me on what lens is a must have for the D70?
I'd like to buy an additional lens to my AF-S NIKKOR 18-70mm. What would you recommend?


Hi Sandy. I have just bought the NIKON 28-200mm F3.5-5.6 G ED-IF AF lens 3.5G and Colda has just bought the 70-210mm AF lens, But neither of us have actually got them yet so it might be another week or so before we can advise on those.

It really comes down to what you are shooting.

Follow the link for all sort of lens reviews for the D70. Link here.
01/02/2005 06:28:51 AM · #3

It really comes down to what you are shooting.

Thank you Bob :) I'd like to be able to take photos of animals close up, even if it is impossible for me to get near them. Any advise?
01/02/2005 06:43:35 AM · #4
As Bob said, my first 2 lenses (which should arrive over the next 2 days) are a 50mm 1.8 and a 70-210mm 4-5.6

There is a lot of good advice on that link.

For the price and performance I think the 50mm is a must have - I intend to use it for portraits and macro with a reversing ring (until I can afford a 105mm micro)

I've just got my SB600 - I love it :)
01/02/2005 06:54:52 AM · #5
Originally posted by Sandymaya:

It really comes down to what you are shooting.

Thank you Bob :) I'd like to be able to take photos of animals close up, even if it is impossible for me to get near them. Any advise?


I just missed out on a Tamron 2x teleconverter at an excellent price.

210mm + 2x TC = 420 x 1.5 crop factor = 630mm (this gets you pretty close)

Just for fun I might try sticking my TCON17 on the front to see what happens (potentially taking it up to 1071mm)

Personally I don't have too much need for big telephoto stuff - so I'll not make big investments in the huge lenses.
01/02/2005 06:57:20 AM · #6
Thank you Darren
01/02/2005 07:56:52 AM · #7
Originally posted by Sandymaya:

It really comes down to what you are shooting.

Thank you Bob :) I'd like to be able to take photos of animals close up, even if it is impossible for me to get near them. Any advise?


Big (elephants-pigs-dogs-horses-lions), small (birds-rabbits-squirrels) or extra small (insects) animals?
At home, the zoo or out in the wild?
At what time of the day (available light vs subject movement)?
What budget?
What are you willing to carry around, like 1.5kg vs 0.5kg, like small extending zoom vs internal zoom long lens?
Do you want super high quality, good quality or is average quality ok?

Its very cool to have a lens with a huge focal length, but if it comes with a small max aperture (small = F5.6, large = F2.8; a teleconverter between the camera and the lens will make this even worse because those type of tc's make the max aperture even smaller) and the light is such that you get into very slow shutterspeed you will run into a lot of motion blur and camera-shake blur = disappointment.
01/02/2005 08:31:00 AM · #8
Originally posted by colda:


Just for fun I might try sticking my TCON17 on the front to see what happens (potentially taking it up to 1071mm)

Personally I don't have too much need for big telephoto stuff - so I'll not make big investments in the huge lenses.


LOL I tried that! But I reversed it. Try it you will be surprised.
01/02/2005 08:35:23 AM · #9
I greatly recommend a 50mm 1.8. Being a fixed focal length its
quite versatile. You get very nitid images. Perfect for low light
I'm sure these librodo entries were taken with this lens:
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(just for you to see its capabilities)

Message edited by author 2005-01-02 09:29:28.
01/02/2005 09:09:15 AM · #10
Originally posted by Azrifel:

Originally posted by Sandymaya:

It really comes down to what you are shooting.

Thank you Bob :) I'd like to be able to take photos of animals close up, even if it is impossible for me to get near them. Any advise?


Big (elephants-pigs-dogs-horses-lions), small (birds-rabbits-squirrels) or extra small (insects) animals?
At home, the zoo or out in the wild?

At what time of the day (available light vs subject movement)?
What budget?
What are you willing to carry around, like 1.5kg vs 0.5kg, like small extending zoom vs internal zoom long lens?
Do you want super high quality, good quality or is average quality ok?

Its very cool to have a lens with a huge focal length, but if it comes with a small max aperture (small = F5.6, large = F2.8; a teleconverter between the camera and the lens will make this even worse because those type of tc's make the max aperture even smaller) and the light is such that you get into very slow shutterspeed you will run into a lot of motion blur and camera-shake blur = disappointment.


Now I am confused....I have had no idea that so many things are to be considered....

Well for now I am trying to catch that Heron that flies off everytime he sees me coming....he is not very compromising and flies off into the wrong direction....
I also will be going to New York in February and wanting to take loads of pictures there.....

I haven't set a busget as I think if I have the ONE I need it does not matter, but now I am left with the impression that one needs wuite a few lenses for different purposes?.........headache...

Message edited by author 2005-01-02 09:09:54.
01/02/2005 09:11:17 AM · #11
Originally posted by eojedaa:

I greatly recommend a 50mm 1.8. Being a fixed focal length its
quite versatile. You get very nitid images. Perfect for low light
I'm sure this librodo entries were taken with this lens:
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(just for you to see its capabilities)


Thanks for this :)
01/02/2005 10:12:07 AM · #12
I find the 50mm invaluable for street photogtaphy. It's not so large that people notice the camera when I'm out looking for candid moments. This is currently my favorite walking around lens.

Must haves on the D70:
18-70mm kit lens. If you want anything wide angle at all, you need this one.

50mm 1.8 or 1.4. Small, cheap (in the case of the 1.8), and wicked fast.

A beginning level zoom. This varies based on how much money you plan on spending. :) Perfect world I'd say the 70-200mm 2.8 VR. But as of right now, I have the 70-300mm ED lens. It's pretty good, but slow as heck.

Clara
01/02/2005 10:23:33 AM · #13
Sounds like you need an 80-400. Nikon has the VR model but it's high dollar and not that fast. I bought a Tokina for $499 at B&H and it's been a very nice lens for the money. The auto focus is slower than the Nikon version, but the unless you have major bucks, it's not worth the difference. Check it out at //www.thkphoto.com/products/tokina/afl-08.html
Good Luck.
01/02/2005 10:30:12 AM · #14
Originally posted by eojedaa:

I greatly recommend a 50mm 1.8. Being a fixed focal length its quite versatile. You get very nitid images. Perfect for low light


And this lense is so cheap compared to quality of images it produces! You get really nice 1cm DOF and background blurr with $100. And it's light, you start to appreciate light lenses when working with the camera for 8 hrs doing some stupid sketchwork for some stupid challenge ;D.
01/02/2005 10:55:58 AM · #15
Originally posted by lode:

Originally posted by eojedaa:

I greatly recommend a 50mm 1.8. Being a fixed focal length its quite versatile. You get very nitid images. Perfect for low light


And this lense is so cheap compared to quality of images it produces! You get really nice 1cm DOF and background blurr with $100. And it's light, you start to appreciate light lenses when working with the camera for 8 hrs doing some stupid sketchwork for some stupid challenge ;D.


Hmm :0 Thank you all for your advise... sounds good :)
01/02/2005 12:32:12 PM · #16
Here are a couple lenses that I would recommend (and have).

Nikkor 50mm f/1.8 as stated above (a no brainer). $100

If you're shooting outdoors with plenty of light, this is a really nice inexpensive zoom lens.
Sigma 70-300mm f/4-5.6 APO Zoom Macro Super II around $180.

You might think this lens is unneeded because the range is close to the 18-70mm kit lens, but this lenses is almost always on my camera now. It is great for indoor low-light situations.
Tamron SP AF28-75MM F/2.8 XR Di LD Aspherical (IF). You can find this online for under $350.

Those three lenses along with the 18-70mm kit lens, for wide-angle shots, should do you well until you invest in the more expensive glass.

I would also highly recommend an SB-800 or SB-600 flash, if you don't already have one.

Feel free to PM me if you want to see examples from either of these lenses.

Message edited by author 2005-01-02 12:33:24.
01/02/2005 01:09:53 PM · #17
As others have mentioned, you truly need to assess what your subject is, what kind of light do you anticipate, and how much weight are you willing to carry. Many fotogs manage well with a zoom in the 200-300 range and couple in a teleconverter. For large subjects like Ice flows
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a 300mm zoom is close enough.

For wild animals or birds, I was very disapointed in the 300 focal range on brown bears in Alaska and opted on my return to get something bigger. When weighing my criteria (cost and weight) I decided on the Sigma 50-500 Ex
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and have been very happy ith the results.

01/03/2005 09:49:00 AM · #18
Originally posted by blemt:

I find the 50mm invaluable for street photogtaphy. It's not so large that people notice the camera when I'm out looking for candid moments. This is currently my favorite walking around lens.

Must haves on the D70:
18-70mm kit lens. If you want anything wide angle at all, you need this one.

50mm 1.8 or 1.4. Small, cheap (in the case of the 1.8), and wicked fast.

A beginning level zoom. This varies based on how much money you plan on spending. :) Perfect world I'd say the 70-200mm 2.8 VR. But as of right now, I have the 70-300mm ED lens. It's pretty good, but slow as heck.

Clara


I am in the boat with Clara. Exact same lenses and WANT right now! Except I usually have the 18-70mm lens on. I love that 50mm, though!! Usually comes out when it starts darkening up.
I am about to get the reversing ring for the 70-300mm to 50mm for more fun....soon!

Message edited by author 2005-01-03 09:50:17.
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