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11/29/2004 10:24:55 PM · #1 |
I'm sick to my stomache when someone, who has never entered any competition nor ever contributed in any discussion, is allowed to give feedback that says.." Poor taste". That's all, that's it.
Quote, unquote.
Shame on you for not even thinking about reading the tutorial on giving feedback prior to giving any.
Shame on you for your inability to deal with anything outside your obvious limited frame of reference.
Shame on you for making me so angry that for a moment I contemplated never to share anything in this forum ever again.
Shame on you for being a negative influence in something so many of us cherish, see as our home-away-from home.
Shame on you for conveying your own hang-ups in life on others.
Shame is you.
But I will not stop, I will continue and at least I will earn my keep. May the "nobody-who-has-nothing-to-offer-and-never-gave-anything" find peace in his pieces. I'm happy with my work, who I am and what I do.
Message edited by author 2004-11-29 22:26:04. |
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11/29/2004 10:42:49 PM · #2 |
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11/29/2004 10:50:48 PM · #3 |
| That's happened to me too. Someone leaves a smart ass comment and they have never entered a challenge. I feel ya man. |
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11/29/2004 10:50:55 PM · #4 |
Originally posted by gibun:
I'm sick to my stomache when someone, who has never entered any competition nor ever contributed in any discussion, is allowed to give feedback that says.." Poor taste". That's all, that's |
dude it's feedback...and everyone's entitled to their opinion. I would figure by age 49 you would realize this. If you don't like what someone says about your work, then ignore it -- if it makes you sick to your stomach, then you probably shouldn't be displaying your work for public feedback.
And since when does someone have to enter a competition or contribute in a discussion to be entitled to an opinion?
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11/29/2004 10:58:57 PM · #5 |
Then don't take it to heart if you enjoy what you do. People may hate what you do and think it is "poor taste" or any other negative remark. I could see how some people might think that of some of the photos in Humor II. I personally don't get too offended about a pic unless it is hateful or directed solely to me. You might not like her/his comment but they in turn didn't care for your photo. I'm sorry if they didn't use a more polite way of saying it but I guess they got their point across, and if they read this and know that they pissed you off by what they said...that might actually give them enjoyment. So don't let them have gratification for their action...just ignore it. But who am I to talk.
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11/29/2004 10:59:07 PM · #6 |
| You must have a pretty sensitive stomach for it to be so sick over someone giving their opinion in an open forum. |
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11/29/2004 11:05:02 PM · #7 |
Would some cheese help to settle your stomach?
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11/29/2004 11:06:27 PM · #8 |
I just feel that I should run to C.V.S and get you some alka seltzer.
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11/29/2004 11:24:37 PM · #9 |
I have received worse than that...Dont let it eat at you like that...Maybe the person that left you the comment wants you to feel like that so you may be able to gain some more "get up and do better" (That just how I look at it) Besides if you are truely proud of your work then you know you wont have to get some "get up and do better" in ya :)
A thought.......
(We always fuss how no one leaves comments and when they do they get picked on....Maybe they arent really good at leaving them and thats the best they can say.)
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11/30/2004 12:05:43 AM · #10 |
I've felt the beast of burden when it comes to ill given comments. I think some people just need help learning how to be constructive. Maybe their daddy didn't spend enough time with them or something who knows. This is an occasion where I personally would ask them what the hell they were talking about in suggesting I had bad taste. It's the same sort of thing when people feel the need to critisize your models.
I also understand debating the worth in displaying photos on a site such as this. I've said it before and I'll say it again. "You can't please everyone all the time." You'll feel pretty silly if you win this thing I bet. I guess my point is to agree with most of the people here and say (from experience) there is no serenity in whining about what one person said. Chances are you'll call out more wolves to feed off your open wound. Remember why you picked up that camera and shoot. Forget about votes and ribbons and do what you should love doing. Entries will come and opinions are like A**holes, everyone has one and they all stink.
Joe
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11/30/2004 12:14:31 AM · #11 |
In any given situation where you can comment on anothers work without having to be face to face with them (and sometimes even then), someone will make a stupid comment. My thought is this. Did what this person said:
a) make you sick?
b) get you fired?
c) get you evicted from your home?
d) make your wife/husband/kids/significant other leave you?
e) flatten your tires?
f) anything else that REALLY matters?
If not, who really has the problem? Not you, the one that is risking his own self worth by putting his work up for public display (thereby requesting people put comments, good or bad, on it). In reality, it is the person that makes himself feel better by belittling someone else's work. If you can let this reality sink in, you will be much the better for it and when some ignorant a$$ leaves a stupid remark on your photo, you can have a good laugh at their expense. |
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11/30/2004 12:27:44 AM · #12 |
I don't see what the big deal is. The person said "poor taste". Whoppie dooda! They think the photo was in poor taste..big deal.
To me, this is trying to make a whole lot of something out of nothing. It's not like they said "Dude, why are you taking photos? You suck!".
Edit: And I don't know why someone would have to have submitted a photo to a challenge to be able to think a photo was in bad taste, in their opinion.
Message edited by author 2004-11-30 00:28:48.
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11/30/2004 12:58:56 AM · #13 |
Shame on you for thinking that everyone's opinion should match your own.
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11/30/2004 01:09:06 AM · #14 |
...But "poor taste" is MORE than just an opinion. It's an emotive phrase that says nothing constructive. What is the recipient of such a barb to do with it? ...Improve his taste?? But you're right - it IS feedback. It tells you something about the critic - actually more about him/her than it does about the image s/he's commenting on.
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11/30/2004 08:17:02 AM · #15 |
What photo was this comment left for? I just looked through all of your comments and I must have missed it...I'm just curious to see the photo, that's all.
I thought for sure it would be the mohawk photo, but I didn't see the "Poor Taste" comment on that one... |
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11/30/2004 08:22:15 AM · #16 |
| If your photo is scoring low you should thank them for giving you insight on why it is scoring low. If your photo is scoring high you should take comfort in the fact that they are clearly in the minority. |
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11/30/2004 08:30:12 AM · #17 |
Originally posted by louddog:
If your photo is scoring low you should thank them for giving you insight on why it is scoring low. If your photo is scoring high you should take comfort in the fact that they are clearly in the minority. |
Well said.
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11/30/2004 08:35:57 AM · #18 |
Originally posted by thatcloudthere:
What photo was this comment left for? I just looked through all of your comments and I must have missed it...I'm just curious to see the photo, that's all.
I thought for sure it would be the mohawk photo, but I didn't see the "Poor Taste" comment on that one... |
currently being voted on, humor 2, can thus not react any other way or identify it... will have to wait until after the vote, then i will advertise widely the fact that what a museum regard as a great example of art from yesteryear, a piece with some history from tibet, being regarded as "Poor Taste".
sorry to say but a lot of the support for the comment may miss the point.... , when is feedback not feedback but an insult? i agree with most, this is a public forum and one has to accept what comes your way. how much have i learned from most of my feedback, and thanks to those. however, i say again, a never contributer, a none entity gives, not feedback, but an insult.
however i put it behind me. yip, the joke is, eventually, on the one who never knew. too sensitive.... sorry thats me, i just don't have a hippo skin.
am i concerned about my score? no, on the contrary, i'm concerned about learning, getting constructive feedback. and i like to stir... ;-) |
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11/30/2004 04:18:01 PM · #19 |
| It works the other way as well: a couple of non-entrants selected some of my pix as favorites. Does it mean as much to me as if, for example, John S. or another multi-ribbon person chose it as a fav? No, not really. |
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11/30/2004 04:26:38 PM · #20 |
I like any comments...at least it is making people stop and think...if they like it great! If not, so what? They are actually taking the time to comment, so many don't!
Take a deep breath and join me...I am the Village Idiot after all! |
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11/30/2004 04:34:20 PM · #21 |
Originally posted by gibun:
I'm sick to my stomache when someone, who has never entered any competition nor ever contributed in any discussion, is allowed to give feedback that says.." Poor taste". That's all, that's it. |
I really feel for you too. I used to enter challenges and enjoy the feedback but this site has become increasing nasty in its comments and therefore both my husband and I have not entered any challenges for some time and have gone to other, more positive sites. This was a very inspirational site when I first started using this site but I am sad to say, it is on the verge of crashing and burning if comments from people who won't put their own work up for scrutiny continues.
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11/30/2004 04:39:32 PM · #22 |
| Some of you guys crack me up (cheese to settle a stomach, talk about constipation!). Anyway, I admire the voting process so far, it's really personal opinion as to what individuals like or dislike. I did find one photo in the humor challenge that I positively don't get, so rather than sound totally ignorant, I chose not to vote on it or comment. I need to do some Internet research here and see what it is I'm missing. Maybe it's hilarious ... |
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11/30/2004 04:47:57 PM · #23 |
Originally posted by Formerlee:
I like any comments...at least it is making people stop and think...if they like it great! If not, so what? They are actually taking the time to comment, so many don't!
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This is so true!!
And yet, I agree that comments such as "poor taste" don't reflect much thinking. Such a comment is clearly not about the technique of the photography, it is not about relating to the challenge and it has no value of a constructive critique. So what is it exactly? personal opinion related to the subject? C'mon...
In this case, i'd rather not get a comment at all. Such coment has no value to me as a learner!
And if it comes from someone who takes no part in the challenges or the learning communities of the forum - I definately can understand your sour stomach!
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11/30/2004 04:55:15 PM · #24 |
| Would you feel better if someone with 100 challenges under his belt left the, "Poor taste" comment? You don't seem to hold this person's opinion of taste in high esteem, so what difference does it make? |
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11/30/2004 04:57:20 PM · #25 |
[quote] and i like to stir... ;-) [/quote]
And get stirred up? ;-) |
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