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11/22/2004 08:35:13 AM · #1 |
I got a lot of comments about my selective desta not working for my Hero entry, so I am curious to see what everyone thinks about the original.
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Did I hurt my score by doing the selective desat?- |
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11/22/2004 08:53:32 AM · #2 |
I didn't vote on the challeng, but yes, the full-color is definetly better.
I do not like selective desaturation, btw.
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11/22/2004 08:55:49 AM · #3 |
I dunno about everyone else, but it struck me as just a little odd that he was smiling. We think of the brass as not being very smiley people... but maybe that's one of the elements that helped your picture to place as high as it did.
Edit to add that I also like the color version better. Though I didn't vote either.
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11/22/2004 09:06:26 AM · #4 |
Well, it placed 8th so it obviously didnt hurt too bad.
June
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11/22/2004 09:12:55 AM · #5 |
| The selective desat made it appear as if someone elses head had been attached to the body. Yes, I think the full color version is better, but you did pretty well anyway. :) |
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11/22/2004 09:24:42 AM · #6 |
the one you submitted is more impactful
Originally posted by toddhead:
I got a lot of comments about my selective desta not working for my Hero entry, so I am curious to see what everyone thinks about the original.
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11/22/2004 09:31:51 AM · #7 |
| I actually didn't notice it was seletively desaturated. I thought it was just old-time toned. But I think, looking at the color and desaturated version, the desat one is better. More visually interesting. |
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11/22/2004 09:38:55 AM · #8 |
| It doesn't look like there is a definitive answer to your question. I prefer the full color. |
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11/22/2004 09:43:35 AM · #9 |
Originally posted by skylen:
I actually didn't notice it was seletively desaturated. I thought it was just old-time toned. But I think, looking at the color and desaturated version, the desat one is better. More visually interesting. |
I did not vote in this one, but the desat would have a negative effect for me...after all it is not the ribbons, medals and uniform who should be showcased. The individual who has earned the right to wear those items is the hero.
Maybe if just the background was desated or the entire photo was antiqued, but desating just the face places emphasis on the uniform and medals.
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11/22/2004 09:47:24 AM · #10 |
| I understand why people don't like the desaturation but to me it still looks better than the original. I might like it better completely in sepia. It gives it more feeling than the color. |
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11/22/2004 10:29:27 AM · #11 |
Originally posted by toddhead:
I got a lot of comments about my selective desta not working for my Hero entry, so I am curious to see what everyone thinks about the original.
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Anyway you slice it, this is a nice photo. I think it would have been a bit better with out the desat. The difference is a tossup, there are probably as many as would like it one way as the other. I really like it and gave it a "9" and said I thought the desat worked well with this.
Congrats on your 8th place finish.
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11/22/2004 11:30:55 AM · #12 |
To me, the picture is (or should be) about the person, not the medals. Your processing has shifted that emphasis quite strongly away from the person - so I don't think it really works with the theme of the picture at all. His medals aren't heroic - he is.
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11/22/2004 11:37:00 AM · #13 |
I have definitely voted shots down a notch or so for using "gratuitous desaturation." I don't think that's really the case with this one, although it's a little bit borderline for me.
When I see a shot that has something randomly emphasized for no good reason, yeah, I may dock it a bit. I thought this was a reasonably creative use of the technique here, though. |
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11/22/2004 12:10:35 PM · #14 |
Originally posted by toddhead:
I got a lot of comments about my selective desta not working for my Hero entry, so I am curious to see what everyone thinks about the original.
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I voted the shot high (9) despite the selective desat than because of it. Actually, I think I'd prefer it totally desaturated. It's a great shot.
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11/22/2004 12:21:23 PM · #15 |
| Thanks for all the comments! I wish I could have had him pose a little better and maybe not smile, but he had already had a few shots of Jamison with some of the younger Marines and he didn't really care about getting his picture taken. I have been to a lot of Marine Corps Balls and have heard a lot of guest speakers, but I have never seen on person totally blow away all of the Marines with his speech. This guy has been there, done that, and seen it all. |
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11/22/2004 12:22:00 PM · #16 |
| I'm sorry, I didn't even really notice -- I thought it was fine the way it was. Actually, I think the entry makes the skin tones look better. |
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11/22/2004 12:28:06 PM · #17 |
As much as I like the colored one, the selective desat makes it more artistic and the metals show how hard this man has worked. The crop is also MUCH better in the desat too! The colored one is a nice portrait shot, but nothing amazing. The desat gives it artistic sense :)
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11/22/2004 01:12:40 PM · #18 |
| I am perhaps a bit biased (my entry was also selectively desaturated), but I liked the end effect. Assuming that the cropping would have been the same, the selective desat gave a good portrait, a wonderful timeless effect. My only coaching would have been to tone down the ribbons a tad, so the difference would not be so glaring. Great work and congrats! |
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11/22/2004 01:53:44 PM · #19 |
| no , i would have like it better if you desat the whole image , good job |
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11/22/2004 02:57:33 PM · #20 |
Obviously this is one of personal taste and opinion :)
I think selective coloring has become overused like photographing water drops, cd's and etc. But my thoughts on your entry were; it did not hurt it helped given the challenge title "Heroes" and the description "Submit a photo that illustrates a "hero".
The medals that make him a hero are more obvious due to the selective coloring you did in the photo.
I think you pulled it off very well.
But this is just MHO and 2 cents :)
Edit: Spelling and sentence I did not complete
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11/23/2004 07:45:55 PM · #21 |
I was one of the people that suggested that the selective desat wasn´t working towards your benefit. I think the version you submitted though is better than the original, I just would like to see it just in sepia, the medals also being brown toned.
Sorry for not elaborating on that earlier. Congrats on your high place in the competition, it´s a great portrait and you deserved to be in the top 10. |
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11/24/2004 02:24:40 AM · #22 |
I gave it an 8 (I usually have 1 or 2 10's and a couple or few 9's so that is really good) and I think it added to the photo, making it distinctive.
Message edited by author 2004-11-24 02:25:39.
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