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08/12/2002 03:32:45 AM · #1 |
I would really like to see which photos people liked out of the "Something Old" challenge, because the results are quite ambiguous to me. It's interesting that out of the top 5 photos, not only were two of them tractors and the other 3 buildings, but they are all oriented almost exactly the same way to the camera!
Here's my list:
11. The Foundation of Life 20. Bathroom Lock 29. This Old House 30. Perseverence (my absolute favourite in this challenge!) 40. Portrait of an old Violin 41. Old Jobs 83. Abandoned 88. 2nd/3rd Century AD 91. From Birth to the Fire Pit 144. Grumpy Old Men (although the colours are a bit odd, I loved the composition and the subject, as you can see in my comment).
As always, there were lots of others I liked, but that will do for now... |
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08/12/2002 04:29:16 AM · #2 |
I agree with you about Perseverence, I really like that one alot. I'll remind myself on some of the other ones now. |
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08/12/2002 04:29:37 AM · #3 |
There were a few photos that I kept revisiting each time I wnet to vote, and here they are in not paticular order.
1896 Perseverance Vintage Fm
There are a few more but its late and im working from memory.
Oh by the way congrats to all that submited an image for all of us to see.
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08/12/2002 05:03:12 AM · #4 |
I think it's a huge shame that so many people failed to understand "From Birth to the Fire Pit". It took me a couple of seconds to realise I was staring at the rings in the log and then associate that with the lifetime of the tree. In an instant the title made sense, and there was no doubting that it fit the challenge, but I knew there would be a lot of people who wouldn't reach that conclusion. That has to be about the only reason it ranked as low as it did. Bah :(. Maybe it should have been called "Count the RINGS!!!"
konador - I noticed in your comment you said you would increase your score on that photo if the photographer explained it to you. Did that happen? If not, does my explanation work for you?
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08/12/2002 05:25:38 AM · #5 |
Yes they emailed me explaining and i put my vote up to 9 :) |
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08/12/2002 06:18:54 AM · #6 |
I'm a newbie and feeling a little navagationally challenged. :) How do I view the comments made on my favorite photos? Thanks. :) |
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08/12/2002 06:46:05 AM · #7 |
Originally posted by Kaz: I'm a newbie and feeling a little navagationally challenged. :) How do I view the comments made on my favorite photos? Thanks. :)
When you click on a thumbnail of a photo it usually takes you to the large (640x480) version of the photo. Scroll down past the graph of scores. Below that is the list of comments.
This is only true for old challenges ("Something Old" and before). You wont be able to see comments for new or current challenge photos until the voting has finished on them.
Regards, John |
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08/12/2002 07:14:29 AM · #8 |
What I really want is to be able to get back into the screen which showed me each photo under a heading of score – that would allow me to share scores I awarded with anyone who asked.
Wonder how hard this would be?
Anyway
Only gave one photo a score of 10: 9All the marbles
Gave 9 points to the following: 7Violin 12 78 rpm 62 Still Frisky 83 Abandoned 121Untitled 67 Dinky Cars
Some of those which got 7s and 8s: 92Shadows of time 126Drowning Dignity 75 Religion 3Finished 14 Centenarian 64Things of Granda
There were a number of others which scored 7 or 8.
Whilst I liked Konador’s winning shot, it wasn’y a high scorer for me – I think I gave it 6 (sorry Ben:)
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08/12/2002 07:24:18 AM · #9 |
Originally posted by floyd: Originally posted by Kaz: [i]I'm a newbie and feeling a little navagationally challenged. :) How do I view the comments made on my favorite photos? Thanks. :)
When you click on a thumbnail of a photo it usually takes you to the large (640x480) version of the photo. Scroll down past the graph of scores. Below that is the list of comments.
This is only true for old challenges ("Something Old" and before). You wont be able to see comments for new or current challenge photos until the voting has finished on them.
Regards, John[/i]
Thanks, John. When I was clicking on the thumbnails in Navigator, it just took me to a blank screen. I tried Explorer instead and was successful. Thnaks for the help.Kaz |
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08/12/2002 08:39:53 AM · #10 |
I appreciate all the nice comments on my "something old" entry. This was my first entry. I as well fail to understand how my photo was misunderstood. Here are my Outtakes
* This message has been edited by the author on 8/12/2002 8:39:14 AM. |
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08/12/2002 09:24:46 AM · #11 |
This was my first week on the site and voting but I was really amazed at how one of the photos which I found to be really good didn't fare so well because people's comments stated that they couldn't see how it met the challenge. Of course, a lot of the ones that I rated highly were in the top running (#'s 2, 3, 4, 5 and 15 with #3, Finished, being one of only two "10's" given for the week) but the one that disappointed me the most was "Getting Old" by Mello winding all the way down at #172. A lot of the comments gave praise on the technical aspects of the photo but really shot it down because they didn't see "something old" in the photo. I'm wondering if many of the people who didn't see it as fitting the theme don't have children or maybe just immediately look for something that meets the generally accepted definition of "old" in their voting. For mello, I would definitely try to enter this in other photo contests like Ritz Camera's Big Print contest because it really captures a lot of emotion and is a great portrait. The other one that surprised me was "Old Power Station" by lisae. A lot of comments said it was too dark or underexposed but with the subject I think it works because of the bright blue sky and clouds in the background. I would hazzard a guess that the exposure was actually metered to the sky or another light area to make the building appear in shadow and to make the sky as clear and blue as possible. This was another that I scored a 9. Well, anyway, I guess since there are so many points of view and so many levels of experience and fields of expertise and backgrounds that it's always going to happen. Oh well, as long as we keep taking good photos and improving our technique we, and this site, will just get better and better. Favorites: Finished (10), Getting Old (10), The Interchangable (9), Old Power Station (9), old hotel room (8), Stopped In It's Tracks (9), 1896 (9), The Tipton Place (8). |
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08/12/2002 09:50:43 AM · #12 |
Thanks Courtenay :). The only things I can control on my camera are white balance and EV compensation. I actually tried all kinds of EV compensation values as I photographed that building, as well as different angles and composition. The photo I submitted appealed to me the most because the light was dark and moody, the area on the right hand side was in silhouette, and the sky was so dramatic. It all seemed to work together for me. I actually came close to entering this version, which would not have gotten comments about being too dark.
I agree about "Getting Old"... as I said in my comment, it was hard to find reasons for it fitting the challenge, but not impossible. I gave it 9 because it was such a good photo in its own right. |
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08/12/2002 10:29:20 AM · #13 |
This too my eyes have seen
Steamboat Willie
Centenarian
Were just a couple of my favorites. :-) And none of them did as well as I thought they would. |
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08/12/2002 11:08:11 AM · #14 |
Originally posted by lisae: Thanks Courtenay :). The only things I can control on my camera are white balance and EV compensation. I actually tried all kinds of EV compensation values as I photographed that building, as well as different angles and composition. The photo I submitted appealed to me the most because the light was dark and moody, the area on the right hand side was in silhouette, and the sky was so dramatic. It all seemed to work together for me. I actually came close to entering this version, which would not have gotten comments about being too dark.
I was one of the peeps who commented on "Old Power Station" being just a little to dark for me, but after comparing it to the other version, I find that I like the darker one. It conveys a more powerful mood.
* This message has been edited by the author on 8/12/2002 11:08:21 AM. |
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08/12/2002 11:13:32 AM · #15 |
First - Congrats to this week's winners!
One of my favorites (although there are many) is 52 El plátano en el bolsillo del diablo - Literal = The banana from the pocket of the devil - but not sure if that was the intended meaning. Anyway, I thought it was very original - Thought it would've scored higher.
Others - NOT in any order: 24 I'm sure we'll play again one day - emotionally well done 11 Foundation of Life 20 Bathroom Lock 69 '32 Ford 73 Old Glory - thought it would've done better 89 Dreams of the Glory Days 134 Remnant
There were many great photos.
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08/12/2002 11:25:53 AM · #16 |
Originally posted by lisae: I think it's a huge shame that so many people failed to understand "From Birth to the Fire Pit". It took me a couple of seconds to realise I was staring at the rings in the log and then associate that with the lifetime of the tree. In an instant the title made sense, and there was no doubting that it fit the challenge, but I knew there would be a lot of people who wouldn't reach that conclusion. That has to be about the only reason it ranked as low as it did. Bah :(. Maybe it should have been called "Count the RINGS!!!"
konador - I noticed in your comment you said you would increase your score on that photo if the photographer explained it to you. Did that happen? If not, does my explanation work for you?
I had a similar issue with my "The Forgotten 8mm" (ranked 10th :-) ... Many people commented on the color either that sepia wasn't necessary or that they liked the "tinting" ... well ... I didn't use sepia. That was the lighting I set up and intentionally gave it that warm, sepia feel but taking the photo in color (there's actually a tiny red spot in the top reel cause it reflected my red shirt I wore when I took it ... so that should've given it away). So I wonder ... should the description be accompanied with the photo and displayed when voting??? I think it would help to know the technique behind the photo ... not a paragraph explaining what the photographer was trying to say and therefore sell his/her pic ... but something about HOW things were done. Opinions, anybody?
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08/12/2002 11:43:07 AM · #17 |
re: lisae and sylk
I had the same experience with my photo, some liked the sepia tone and others didn't - funny thing though, I didn't use sepia. I found it funny to see the comments, but that is what the voters saw and that is fine. I'm not too sure about needing an 'explanation' for the photos.
I loved "From Birth to the Fire Pit" gave it a 10.
I have a feeling that some voters were really looking for the photo to be of something old, in which they automatically shyed away from photos that 'appeared' to be an old photo. I don't know - everyone is just so different.
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08/12/2002 11:43:17 AM · #18 |
I was a little upset at first at the amount of 1 to 3 votes my photo got. I honestly feel the photo wasn't THAT bad. Oh well...live and learn heh
On the topic...there were a few that just blew me away this week that didn't win. I don't want to take away from the winners so I'll keep that bit to myself.
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08/12/2002 11:49:44 AM · #19 |
Hrrm... I really don't think it's "taking away from the winners" to talk about the other photos you loved. How are the photographers supposed to know they touched you otherwise? I leave comments on all my favourites, but listing them in the forums is just a bit of extra credit towards people who I think deserve it, and I also REALLY want to know what other people think. This is the most interesting part of DPC for me... exploring what people thought of everyone else's photos (usually we only talk about our own). |
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08/12/2002 12:04:50 PM · #20 |
Personally I don't mind if people talk about other photos, because 1st 2nd and 3rd place already have recognition, but all the other great photos dont have as much because they are not on the front page. |
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08/12/2002 12:08:28 PM · #21 |
I don't have a problem with it either...not at all. That was just my personal feelings for a few reasons.
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08/14/2002 05:04:22 AM · #22 |
Originally posted by Shiiizzzam: I was a little upset at first at the amount of 1 to 3 votes my photo got. I honestly feel the photo wasn't THAT bad. Oh well...live and learn heh
Hey, we didn't all think it was bad... I for one thought the picture was really great – and voted as such. I was convinced it would be up there with the best of them. Your problem was due to the quality of this challenge - it was really high, and to be in the top 20 of this lot was going to be really hard. I would find it hard to pick an overall top shot – I thought the disqualified winner was good enough – but there were a few that I thought should have been up there but were not, '78 rpm', 'Milenary Art' and 'Key to the Past' to name but a few, should have done better. But, this site is full of personal opinions. I know I've named three there, but there were many others that were tops… Great shooting everybody!
On that note, my picture didn't do well at all, but I don't mind because I had great comments and great fun doing it. In the latest challenge, I've started badly and quickly deteriorated – some fantastic comments (one rude one) despite the really low average – but I am hooked. 146th last week, things can only get better… I think, well, looking at my score, perhaps not… There's always pencils!!! My motto, don't give up, when you're at the bottom you don't have far to fall, so go for it…
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08/16/2002 01:51:09 PM · #23 |
I actually agree with the final winner (stopped in its tracks). I'm big on colors so this one got a 10 vote from me. For the same reason, 1896 was my second choice. I did think that it was interesting to see so many tractors (and automobiles). It reminded me of all the spiders (my entry included) in the Fear challenge. I'm glad that people seem to be judging each shot on its own and not taking off points for having a popular subject. Great minds often think alike. As for the orientation. I don't really think that voters often reward creativity like they might. Visual aesthetics often seems to win out over originality and innovation in technique. |
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08/16/2002 02:53:50 PM · #24 |
Originally posted by Shiiizzzam: I was a little upset at first at the amount of 1 to 3 votes my photo got. I honestly feel the photo wasn't THAT bad. Oh well...live and learn heh
On the topic...there were a few that just blew me away this week that didn't win. I don't want to take away from the winners so I'll keep that bit to myself.
I gave your photo just above mid range score and here is the reason. I have seen that same photo (from different angles) in a couple of different challenges on a couple of different web site. I like it, but what swayed me was originality. I had actually taken pictures of a really old piano for the challenge, and there was another piano picutre in the challenge as well. I had originaly seen the photo on Bestfoto with a wider shot. And then again on a different site. (can't remember wich one at the moment, I goto so many different ones) By the time I saw it on this site, the photo was a little over exposed (not talking about lighing). Granted I know it wasn't the exact same, one was a bit closer up than the other. I still gave it above average. I mean, it's obviously good if it made it on 3 sites last week. Good luck in the new challenge. ~Heather~ |
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