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11/14/2004 02:55:15 AM · #1
Christmas is coming up and I would like to give my soon to be 16 year old brother a camera. I enjoy photography so much that i thought he'd get hooked as well. I wanna give him something that doesnt break the bank, under $150 USD perhaps. I dont wanna give him a simple point and shoot camera, I'd like something more along the lines of an SLR. I was even looking at a Vivitar fixed lens camera that allowed for multiple exposures and looked pretty cool. He has taken snapshots before with the family camera but has no real experience or even thought about it as far as I know so I would also like to give him a beginners book. I was looking at this camera and I was wondering what you guys thought about it. As far as the book goes, I have no idea so recommendations would be highly appreciated. I considered giving him a Holga but I thought that the more commonly used 35mm film would be easier for a beginner to get and work with. Whaddaya think?

June
11/14/2004 03:05:24 AM · #2
The budget was set a little higher, but you might want to check out this thread.

I think you'll have a problem finding an "SLR-like" (i.e. manual controls) camera for under $150 -- perhaps something in the Canon A-series; I'd consider used, or checking Overstock.com for a discontinued or factory-refurbished model.

Message edited by author 2004-11-14 03:05:52.
11/14/2004 03:26:25 AM · #3
What a great idea for a gift! Trouble with film is the ongoing costs. Unless your brother does his own processing the cost of buying new films and then processing can be very limiting.

A lot of peops seem to get hooked on photography after they've got their first digi camera and discovered the joys of the delete button.....and then begun to play in the virtual darkroom on their computers. Are there any options within your budget of digi that has manual options as well?

sue
11/14/2004 03:32:29 AM · #4
Originally posted by suemack:

What a great idea for a gift! Trouble with film is the ongoing costs. Unless your brother does his own processing the cost of buying new films and then processing can be very limiting.

A lot of peops seem to get hooked on photography after they've got their first digi camera and discovered the joys of the delete button.....and then begun to play in the virtual darkroom on their computers. Are there any options within your budget of digi that has manual options as well?

sue


The thing is that his computer is not very up to date and it only has 7GB of hard drive. Not only would he have to learn photography, but he would have to learn photoshop or whatever other program he uses. I thought it would be easy to start with film

June
11/14/2004 06:50:23 AM · #5
Originally posted by GeneralE:

The budget was set a little higher, but you might want to check out this thread.


all I have to say is in the thread general has already mentioned - best to read that, so I don't have to repeat myself :p - whateva your choice, good luck and hope its the right one
11/14/2004 06:59:19 AM · #6
Originally posted by chiqui74:

The thing is that his computer is not very up to date and it only has 7GB of hard drive. Not only would he have to learn photography, but he would have to learn photoshop or whatever other program he uses. I thought it would be easy to start with film
June


you don't need much hard disk space for photography - & its not that much extra money to buy another hard disk drive if you need to

since your brother is soon to be 16 he will pick up photoshop or any editing program with ease - as long as he knows how to use a computer, its not that hard to teach yourself

plenty of tutorials on the net and books you can buy to get into editing in no time - you could teach him whateva you already know already - couldn't you?
11/14/2004 07:14:27 AM · #7
Originally posted by saintnicholas_25:

Originally posted by chiqui74:

The thing is that his computer is not very up to date and it only has 7GB of hard drive. Not only would he have to learn photography, but he would have to learn photoshop or whatever other program he uses. I thought it would be easy to start with film
June


you don't need much hard disk space for photography - & its not that much extra money to buy another hard disk drive if you need to

since your brother is soon to be 16 he will pick up photoshop or any editing program with ease - as long as he knows how to use a computer, its not that hard to teach yourself

plenty of tutorials on the net and books you can buy to get into editing in no time - you could teach him whateva you already know already - couldn't you?


He lives if Florida and I live in Italy....a little hard to teach him

June
11/14/2004 07:25:37 AM · #8
you really dont want to consider a digital...? film is more expensive in the long run and very, very disheartening to pay for your 'lessons' aka mistakes that way.
11/14/2004 08:06:20 AM · #9
I know cost is important, as is his computer and small hard drive, but as has been said before...I would go digital for him.

The ability to see what you have taken straight away and delete as necessary makes the learning curve less disheartening and costly. There is nothing worse than collecting your photos from the processors to find 24 blurred pics with a thumb in them...and still have to pay for them.

Digital, even if it is a point and shoot is a much better starting point, plus, if he likes it, he can upgrade as he gains experience.
11/14/2004 12:29:40 PM · #10
Originally posted by chiqui74:

He lives if Florida and I live in Italy....a little hard to teach him

June

Check out a program called Timbuktu from Netopia. The only thing it can't do for you is account for the time difference : )
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