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01/05/2023 02:53:20 PM · #1
It's probably been discussed many times before, but I find that a lot of photos are propped-up by their title where the title is needed to justify the photo and explain why it meets the challenge. Do we really need titles? Should they affect a voter or viewer? I've had a comment that a photo was 'hurt by its title'.

I've really enjoyed viewing and voting in the 'Aftermath' challenge (I haven't entered it) because each photo needs to speak for itself.

I think more challenges should limit the photo title to match the title of the challenge, or have no title at all. Or is the title an inherent part of the photo? It isn't on Instagram or Facebook, so any does it matter here?
01/05/2023 02:58:36 PM · #2
Shoehorning is a DPC tradition!

I see what you're saying. But there was one great capture recently that I didn't really 'get' until I saw the title but that was totally on me. It opens my eyes sometimes to things I wouldn't have otherwise been tuned too.

I did like the restriction of Aftermath too though as a one-off, although some people didn't adhere to it...
01/05/2023 03:33:40 PM · #3
Sometimes the title helps me to see how the photographer thought it suited the topic and sometimes it can be a shoehorn. I am sometimes at a loss for a title and often consult a random title generator to get title ideas. I've done my share of shoehorns. One entry in particular that was a literal shoehorn and ended up scoring quite well in addition to fooling our resident bug expert.
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01/05/2023 04:05:36 PM · #4
Originally posted by mikeee:

It's probably been discussed many times before, but I find that a lot of photos are propped-up by their title where the title is needed to justify the photo and explain why it meets the challenge. Do we really need titles? Should they affect a voter or viewer? I've had a comment that a photo was 'hurt by its title'.

I've really enjoyed viewing and voting in the 'Aftermath' challenge (I haven't entered it) because each photo needs to speak for itself.

I think more challenges should limit the photo title to match the title of the challenge, or have no title at all. Or is the title an inherent part of the photo? It isn't on Instagram or Facebook, so any does it matter here?


I used to think the same way -- especially since I absolutely hate coming up with titles. I'm not a poet. My titles are rather obvious and dumb most of the time.

However, sometimes I wish that we could even have a full paragraph instead of a title. After all -- I'm thinking of photography as art, now. Not just photography. When you go to an art museum, there usually is some information about the piece of art at which you're looking. So many times I have ended up with a greater appreciation of the piece by reading the information/back story/ etc. Why does it have to speak for itself?

If it does have to speak for itself, only the loudest most obvious would win. Not everyone can read the photographer's mind. A title can bring clarity and reason. A title can confuse and intrigue. I title should make the viewer more curious and look a little deeper.

There have been photographer's notes that I've read after a challenge, that if I only knew when voting, would have doubled or tripled the score if it was possible to give a score of 30. Why does that have to be hidden?

So -- even though I absolutely despise giving things titles, and even though I think that titled my work hurts me more often than it helps, and even though, to be honest, I rarely read the titles -- I think they should stay. (wow -- what a long sentence!) :)
01/05/2023 07:33:34 PM · #5
titles.

I hate them.

A photograph either fits the challenge topic on its own…

Or, it doesn’t.

This isn’t a literary challenge,right?

It’s a photography challenge.

(I might be just a tad bit opinionated. Just a tad…)
01/05/2023 07:36:17 PM · #6
Originally posted by Lydia:

titles.

I hate them.

A photograph either fits the challenge topic on its own…

Or, it doesn’t.

This isn’t a literary challenge,right?

It’s a photography challenge.

(I might be just a tad bit opinionated. Just a tad…)

Whaaat? You're the queen of creative titles. :-)
01/05/2023 09:33:45 PM · #7
Originally posted by vawendy:

Originally posted by mikeee:

It's probably been discussed many times before, but I find that a lot of photos are propped-up by their title where the title is needed to justify the photo and explain why it meets the challenge. Do we really need titles? Should they affect a voter or viewer? I've had a comment that a photo was 'hurt by its title'.

I've really enjoyed viewing and voting in the 'Aftermath' challenge (I haven't entered it) because each photo needs to speak for itself.

I think more challenges should limit the photo title to match the title of the challenge, or have no title at all. Or is the title an inherent part of the photo? It isn't on Instagram or Facebook, so any does it matter here?


I used to think the same way -- especially since I absolutely hate coming up with titles. I'm not a poet. My titles are rather obvious and dumb most of the time.

However, sometimes I wish that we could even have a full paragraph instead of a title. After all -- I'm thinking of photography as art, now. Not just photography. When you go to an art museum, there usually is some information about the piece of art at which you're looking. So many times I have ended up with a greater appreciation of the piece by reading the information/back story/ etc. Why does it have to speak for itself?

If it does have to speak for itself, only the loudest most obvious would win. Not everyone can read the photographer's mind. A title can bring clarity and reason. A title can confuse and intrigue. I title should make the viewer more curious and look a little deeper.

There have been photographer's notes that I've read after a challenge, that if I only knew when voting, would have doubled or tripled the score if it was possible to give a score of 30. Why does that have to be hidden?

So -- even though I absolutely despise giving things titles, and even though I think that titled my work hurts me more often than it helps, and even though, to be honest, I rarely read the titles -- I think they should stay. (wow -- what a long sentence!) :)


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