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11/21/2022 07:28:51 AM · #1
So I thought I knew what graffiti was, and according to the description given by dpc itís this - Graffiti" is defined as "writing or drawings scribbled, scratched, or sprayed illicitly on a wall or other surface in a public place." Find some and photograph it :-)
and Iím good with that, but if you see a past blue ribbon ' . substr('//images.dpchallenge.com/images_challenge/2000-2999/2465/120/Copyrighted_Image_Reuse_Prohibited_1199082.jpg', strrpos('//images.dpchallenge.com/images_challenge/2000-2999/2465/120/Copyrighted_Image_Reuse_Prohibited_1199082.jpg', '/') + 1) . ' I would say this DNMC. This mural would have been commissioned by the council for an artist to paint, itís wall art, thereís nothing illicit about this, thoughts??

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11/21/2022 08:42:20 AM · #2
Agree with you on this. Here in Taipei there is a whole area full of graffiti.Some are really superb wall art from famous graffiti artists. The city gave up cleaning up the walls in that area, making it now a place to visit. The Ximen district is a place for young people to hang out. It is pretty safe as long you don't interfere with the gangs. There used to be a big Godzilla built with empty spray cans.
11/21/2022 08:42:59 AM · #3
Well, *I* agree; that's not graffiti by any stretch of the imagination. But challenge descriptions aren't rules, and voters will vote the way they gotta vote, so what can we say?
11/21/2022 09:06:29 AM · #4
Originally posted by Neat:

So I thought I knew what graffiti was, and according to the description given by dpc itís this - Graffiti" is defined as "writing or drawings scribbled, scratched, or sprayed illicitly on a wall or other surface in a public place." Find some and photograph it :-)
and Iím good with that, but if you see a past blue ribbon ' . substr('//images.dpchallenge.com/images_challenge/2000-2999/2465/120/Copyrighted_Image_Reuse_Prohibited_1199082.jpg', strrpos('//images.dpchallenge.com/images_challenge/2000-2999/2465/120/Copyrighted_Image_Reuse_Prohibited_1199082.jpg', '/') + 1) . ' I would say this DNMC. This mural would have been commissioned by the council for an artist to paint, itís wall art, thereís nothing illicit about this, thoughts??


Are you familiar with this particular piece?

Are you sure it was commissioned?

I've seen some incredibly elaborate pieces that weren't authorized.

I would think that it's on the voters, but if you know the piece was authorized, it shouldn't count......or should it?
11/21/2022 09:31:33 AM · #5
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Message edited by author 2022-11-21 09:31:53.
11/21/2022 06:08:46 PM · #6
Originally posted by NikonJeb:

Originally posted by Neat:

So I thought I knew what graffiti was, and according to the description given by dpc itís this - Graffiti" is defined as "writing or drawings scribbled, scratched, or sprayed illicitly on a wall or other surface in a public place." Find some and photograph it :-)
and Iím good with that, but if you see a past blue ribbon ' . substr('//images.dpchallenge.com/images_challenge/2000-2999/2465/120/Copyrighted_Image_Reuse_Prohibited_1199082.jpg', strrpos('//images.dpchallenge.com/images_challenge/2000-2999/2465/120/Copyrighted_Image_Reuse_Prohibited_1199082.jpg', '/') + 1) . ' I would say this DNMC. This mural would have been commissioned by the council for an artist to paint, itís wall art, thereís nothing illicit about this, thoughts??


Are you familiar with this particular piece?

Are you sure it was commissioned?

I've seen some incredibly elaborate pieces that weren't authorized.

I would think that it's on the voters, but if you know the piece was authorized, it shouldn't count......or should it?


No I donít know if itís commissioned to tell the truth, but it ainít graffiti. Itís wall art.
11/21/2022 06:12:02 PM · #7
Originally posted by Neat:

No I donít know if itís commissioned to tell the truth, but it ainít graffiti. Itís wall art.

Besides, considering how long it would've taken to paint this, the artist most assuredly had permission to do the work. And the key thing about "graffiti", IMO, is that it's by nature illicit. But that's just me.
11/21/2022 06:19:05 PM · #8
Originally posted by Bear_Music:

But that's just me.

And probably >85% of those who have thought about it at all (like DPC voters) ...

Message edited by author 2022-11-21 18:19:23.
11/21/2022 06:27:36 PM · #9
Originally posted by Bear_Music:

Originally posted by Neat:

No I donít know if itís commissioned to tell the truth, but it ainít graffiti. Itís wall art.

Besides, considering how long it would've taken to paint this, the artist most assuredly had permission to do the work. And the key thing about "graffiti", IMO, is that it's by nature illicit. But that's just me.


Exactly! Illegally done.
11/21/2022 07:08:04 PM · #10
Welp, there goes my entry. Good luck, everyone.
11/21/2022 09:14:59 PM · #11
but if you look at the results of Graffiti II, the majority of entries are of that illicit ilk.

I say, do what you gonna do.
11/21/2022 10:02:04 PM · #12
Originally posted by tnun:

but if you look at the results of Graffiti II, the majority of entries are of that illicit ilk.

I say, do what you gonna do.


Third place is wall art also in that same challenge.

My entry possibly DNMC that time around.

Message edited by author 2022-11-21 22:03:33.
11/22/2022 09:17:08 PM · #13
Genuine graffiti can be pretty crude. Do we need to sensor it?
11/22/2022 09:35:19 PM · #14
Originally posted by jomari:

Genuine graffiti can be pretty crude. Do we need to sensor it?

Can't make an image without a sensor, can we? :-) As for CENsoring it, probably not, although really praphic portrayals of genitalia might cross the line. Bad words wouldn't.
11/22/2022 09:37:25 PM · #15
Originally posted by jomari:

Genuine graffiti can be pretty crude. Do we need to sensor it?

Well, technically, the rules (under Common challenge entries), state that you may not "submit a photograph depicting male or female genitalia, or acts of sex deemed inappropriate by a majority of the Site Council.".

That may be a loose rule nowadays also anyways ...
11/22/2022 11:02:47 PM · #16
Haha, sorry about the spelling mistake. Thanks for the answers.
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