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 06/27/2022 12:32:09 PM · #26
What's the harm in trying something new that could pull in people with money? If it works , it works, if it does not, then back to what it was.

Do some polls for 2 weeks and see what members and non members actually want.

I know I am good with once every 2 weeks, or every week, same with minimal challenges being the same.

06/27/2022 03:06:39 PM · #27
Originally posted by JulietNN:
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
Just off the top of my head, and out of curiosity, if we brought back weekly archival challenges and made them for PAID MEMBERS only, would that increase the number of financial supporters of DPC? In other words, would registered users be more inclined to support us if they could play the archival game?


Try it and see. I think it would a good opportunity.


My curious self also wants to know, does leaving just two Archival challenges a month increase the financial support? And is that the reason they got cut down?

Maybe we should take a vote, as I was supposing, and have both member and registered users vote separately so we can see what each really would like to be paying for. Just an idea.

Please note that I will support the site, I will pay my way and I will do my best to participate any way it goes.
 06/27/2022 03:20:50 PM · #28
Personally I think that reducing archival challenges was another nail in DPC coffin but what do I know... carry on.
 06/27/2022 03:50:13 PM · #29
Originally posted by MargaretNet:
Personally I think that reducing archival challenges was another nail in DPC coffin but what do I know... carry on.

Me too Margaret. I'm pretty much done here to be honest. I've moved on. Only reason I come on here is to chat to my two good friends
 06/27/2022 04:01:16 PM · #30
Originally posted by glad2badad:
Originally posted by salmiakki:
My participation increased when there were archival challenges. Now they have largely disappeared, I don't even bother to check what the topic is.

343 challenges entered in 16 years. Healthy participation for sure, but it looks like you've never been a big fan of the themed challenges (in general) and have leaned towards Free Studys more frequently. I do see where you've entered more themed challenges recently when they've been Archival. IMO, Archival is not DPChallenge. Yes, it's fun to visit your backlog of photos, but it's also way easier than having to actually "challenge" yourself to go out and find/create an entry in a two week period (I kind of with it was still a ONE week window).

Nope, never been an active participant, don't have time or inclination to be taking photos every week. This year, I've used my camera once or twice. However, I did tend to vote nearly all challenges. Certainly I've given far more than I have received. I liked the archival challenges. But if the general view is they should be reduced in number, fine.
 06/27/2022 04:10:55 PM · #31
So, what do we want DPChallenge to be?

Are we still interested in true "challenges" where you have to think about and obtain a fresh new image for whatever the challenge theme is?
Are we more interested in laying back and culling our archives and finding the photo that fits the challenge the best?
Should we just become a Facebook or Instagram where we post and take delight in the number of likes we get? Maybe the most "likes" wins?

Yes, yes, I know, we can shoot a new image for an Archival challenge and try to compete with photographers like Neat, vawendy and others (including old timers that popup for Archivals) with global, well-established image banks to pull from of breathtaking people, places and scenery?

I've entered my share of Archivals as well, and it was generally a relief in that I could be lazy and not have to shoot a new image when I was short on time, etc. Often, I already know how an image is going to be received / viewed by the community here because it was an outtake of something that had already done well. Not a lot of effort needed.

Do we want DPChallenge to just be "easy"? Unfortunately, I'm getting the vibe that's the direction many want to take. That to me, is the "nail in the DPC coffin" referenced earlier. Yeah, DPC may live on in name, but not in spirit.
 06/27/2022 05:08:22 PM · #32
Originally posted by glad2badad:
So, what do we want DPChallenge to be?

Are we still interested in true "challenges" where you have to think about and obtain a fresh new image for whatever the challenge theme is?
Are we more interested in laying back and culling our archives and finding the photo that fits the challenge the best?
Should we just become a Facebook or Instagram where we post and take delight in the number of likes we get? Maybe the most "likes" wins?

Yes, yes, I know, we can shoot a new image for an Archival challenge and try to compete with photographers like Neat, vawendy and others (including old timers that popup for Archivals) with global, well-established image banks to pull from of breathtaking people, places and scenery?

I've entered my share of Archivals as well, and it was generally a relief in that I could be lazy and not have to shoot a new image when I was short on time, etc. Often, I already know how an image is going to be received / viewed by the community here because it was an outtake of something that had already done well. Not a lot of effort needed.

Do we want DPChallenge to just be "easy"? Unfortunately, I'm getting the vibe that's the direction many want to take. That to me, is the "nail in the DPC coffin" referenced earlier. Yeah, DPC may live on in name, but not in spirit.


I think you are over thinking this, and slightly being dramatic. What is wrong with having the normal challenges and some archival ones. Nothing is wrong with it. It is not going to life or death, and no one has even remotely said anything about it all being easy and all archival.

Why are you insulting everyone here with "lazy' 'easy' Instagram/FB comment, pretty much the whole paragraphs?

People have thrown out some good suggestions and how and if it could possibly work and what the outcome could or may not be. Being stagnant is going to be the killer of DPC, not ideas, thoughts, comments, not trying something or even letting Poll's do the hard work for you, to find out what the members and non-members actually want, that is Achievable, or doable.

Message edited by author 2022-06-27 17:12:10.
 06/27/2022 07:29:51 PM · #33
Originally posted by JulietNN:
... Why are you insulting everyone here with "lazy' 'easy' Instagram/FB comment, pretty much the whole paragraphs? ...

Hi Juliet. I respect your opinion.

I'm sorry that's all you took away from my last post. It is my opinion, yes, that entering Archival challenges is taking the easy way out compared to having to come up with a themed challenge entry within a 2 week window and shoot something new. Much easier, and I think that is a big reason those advocating for more Archival challenges want it - don't have to work to meet the "challenge".

As for polling; I don't see how a poll can be a valid measure of the community without it being skewed. Unless we can factor in those that contribute to DPChallenge in some manner other than just showing up to enter Archival challenges.
 06/27/2022 07:35:34 PM · #34
Originally posted by salmiakki:
... But if the general view is they should be reduced in number, fine.

Hi Sarah - This subject has been discussed in a fairly lengthy Administrator forum post previously. What we're seeing in this thread is a rehash of most of it.
 06/27/2022 08:15:37 PM · #35
Originally posted by NikonJeb:
Originally posted by PennyStreet:
Exploring my archives is, in contrast, always safe and available, relives memories, and has been a welcome alternative that I hate to have end.


I would be greatly surprised if this isn't the general consensus on Archival Challenges.

I love to revisit where I've been and where I've gone both physically and mentally by wandering through my archives.

I have pulled images through my searches that have found their way to the walls of our gallery.


BOTH quotes are spot on. I would only add the great fun in taking the RAW file thru it’s paces again just to see what results.
 06/27/2022 08:20:44 PM · #36
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
Just off the top of my head, and out of curiosity, if we brought back weekly archival challenges and made them for PAID MEMBERS only, would that increase the number of financial supporters of DPC? In other words, would registered users be more inclined to support us if they could play the archival game?


Worth a try. Time to open some minds from old paradigms to a re-define of “challenge.”
Archivals!
 06/27/2022 08:24:56 PM · #37
worth a try. nothing, really, to lose...

surely we are a peeps for all seasons?
 06/27/2022 09:14:57 PM · #38
Originally posted by oldbimmercoupe:

Worth a try. Time to open some minds from old paradigms to a re-define of “challenge.”
Archivals!

Just took a peek at your profile - you have certainly enjoyed the Archival challenges for sure. More Archivals would mean more entries for you then?
 06/27/2022 09:56:22 PM · #39
Originally posted by glad2badad:
Originally posted by oldbimmercoupe:

Worth a try. Time to open some minds from old paradigms to a re-define of “challenge.”
Archivals!

Just took a peek at your profile - you have certainly enjoyed the Archival challenges for sure. More Archivals would mean more entries for you then?


Yes yes, we all have them.
 06/28/2022 01:00:23 AM · #40
I personally don't like that much the archivals but neither do I mind them. I am also a last minute entry person like tnun said.

Worth a try though.

And more minimal so I don't stress with the editing too much since most are last minute entries lol
 06/28/2022 01:01:36 AM · #41
I also don't like to check if any pic I like was entered in a past challenge.
 06/28/2022 05:40:11 AM · #42
Originally posted by Neat:
Originally posted by glad2badad:
Originally posted by oldbimmercoupe:

Worth a try. Time to open some minds from old paradigms to a re-define of “challenge.”
Archivals!

Just took a peek at your profile - you have certainly enjoyed the Archival challenges for sure. More Archivals would mean more entries for you then?

Yes yes, we all have them.

Some more (WAY more) than others. ;)
 06/28/2022 11:25:35 AM · #43
If we feel that we have interesting image that we never posted, we can always reinstate some of the side challenges but the participation is already slow and the comments almost nonexistent. And perhaps lack of interest in photography outside a competition.

I do not have a preference but I urge the diehard people here to make an effort to express themselves more than the what I think of meaningless "likes" on other sites
06/29/2022 02:43:05 PM · #44
Originally posted by glad2badad:
Originally posted by oldbimmercoupe:

Worth a try. Time to open some minds from old paradigms to a re-define of “challenge.”
Archivals!

Just took a peek at your profile - you have certainly enjoyed the Archival challenges for sure. More Archivals would mean more entries for you then?


And your point is … ?
 07/21/2022 02:48:07 PM · #45
The last archival challenge was for the period from July 1-14. I thought we were at least having two a month?
 07/21/2022 03:41:15 PM · #46
Originally posted by PennyStreet:
The last archival challenge was for the period from July 1-14. I thought we were at least having two a month?

I should have made the open challenge last night be archival. I'll schedule tonight's as an open challenge as well, and make it so.
 07/21/2022 04:26:09 PM · #47
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
Originally posted by PennyStreet:
The last archival challenge was for the period from July 1-14. I thought we were at least having two a month?

I should have made the open challenge last night be archival. I'll schedule tonight's as an open challenge as well, and make it so.


Thank you.
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