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03/24/2022 08:00:53 PM · #1
the optimism and enthusiasm and positivity of the early voters, but . . .

man, it makes the drop that follows hard to take LOL
03/24/2022 08:31:51 PM · #2
Originally posted by nam:

the optimism and enthusiasm and positivity of the early voters, but . . .

man, it makes the drop that follows hard to take LOL


Yes! On most of my entries lately haha.
03/24/2022 09:21:50 PM · #3
Why do you think this is???
03/24/2022 09:25:54 PM · #4
Originally posted by Barroness:

Why do you think this is???

My experience in 15 years on DPC has been that the more generous and/or thoughtful voters tend to show up either early, while the hard to impress crowds usually vote after that.

Plus, high votes later on will affect the average less. So a few high votes early on will then result in a slow drop after the first round.

Message edited by author 2022-03-24 21:26:20.
03/24/2022 11:19:35 PM · #5
Originally posted by nam:

the optimism and enthusiasm and positivity of the early voters, but . . .
man, it makes the drop that follows hard to take LOL

100%
03/25/2022 06:12:26 AM · #6
Originally posted by Barroness:

Why do you think this is???

I always thought, somewhat pessimistically, that early high votes were meant to make people feel better and perhaps impact the state of mind of voters (participants) with votes they cast in the initial stages. Higher score, feeling happy, vote higher. :-)

Who's to say that some of those early votes don't get changed later?
Food for thought.
03/25/2022 04:08:58 PM · #7
Early voters are feeling optimistic about their entry and vote higher, later voters more pessimistic after getting some lower votes themselves.
03/25/2022 05:11:27 PM · #8
While I've noticed a similar pattern myself, I think it's important to remember that any underlying motivation or rationale is purely speculative on the part of us posters -- we have yet to run a comprehensive (anonymous) survey of people's actual voting patterns.
03/25/2022 07:57:32 PM · #9
Originally posted by GeneralE:

While I've noticed a similar pattern myself, I think it's important to remember that any underlying motivation or rationale is purely speculative on the part of us posters -- we have yet to run a comprehensive (anonymous) survey of people's actual voting patterns.


And I intended no comment at all on any "underlying motivation". I was actually trying to be humorous - ruefully so, but funny :)
03/26/2022 07:00:52 AM · #10
Originally posted by glad2badad:



Who's to say that some of those early votes don't get changed later?
Food for thought.


How do you know this, unless you’re speaking for yourself :)
03/26/2022 07:17:20 AM · #11
It’s kind of sad because everyone works hard on their images. Images start out as a thought that someone makes a reality.
03/26/2022 12:29:11 PM · #12
Usually I notice the same thing, but recently it's switched around. Last 4 or so challenges I've started out low and gone up about .6 by the third day of voting.
03/27/2022 12:07:02 AM · #13
I am going the opposite way. Usually it is the other way
Started at 4.8 and now at 5.5
03/27/2022 09:26:35 AM · #14
Same here… I started at 6, went down to below 5.4 but now back to slightly above 5.8
03/28/2022 10:18:01 AM · #15
I've noticed a trend... if it's a "good" entry of mine, the score goes down on the last day or two.

If it's "not that great" of an image, the score goes up the last day or two.

03/28/2022 01:15:00 PM · #16
Putting aside for a moment the issue of early voters possibly being different from later voters in a whole variety of ways that affect their votes, what Lydia describes fits in with of the phenomena of "regression to the mean", which occurs even if voters were sequenced randomly. This refers not some "absolute mean", but the unknown mean/average score for that particular image (in this case). That will only start to become reliably reflected by the votes after 30 or so votes. The regression to the mean phenomena is used in clinical trials. One such trial I was involved with only recruited people with high blood pressure to see if the planned treatment would lower blood pressure. But the protocol did not allow people to be enrolled after just one blood pressure reading because if that was an atypically high reading for that person their blood pressure readings would tend to get lower over time without any intervention, leading to a faulty conclusion about the efficacy of the treatment. Additional readings had to be taken several days later before they could be enrolled...

Originally posted by Lydia:

I've noticed a trend... if it's a "good" entry of mine, the score goes down on the last day or two.

If it's "not that great" of an image, the score goes up the last day or two.
03/30/2022 11:07:01 AM · #17
I think it means our Australian/New Zealand and maybe European voters are nice people (high vote). They are first in line to vote (or so I thought) ... :-).
03/30/2022 11:35:44 AM · #18
I'm pretty good at getting mediocre votes to start then gradually dropping. The plus side to a mediocre score is it doesn't fall as far or as fast. And (huffs out chest in pride!) I've recently been able to garner a couple of 1s and 2s on entries! Damn proud of that!

My vote given is usually much higher than the vote I am receiving. I don't know if that means anything or not, but for those who are competitive, there may be a tendency to vote in concert with the score being received?

Message edited by author 2022-03-30 11:45:44.
03/30/2022 07:37:10 PM · #19
Originally posted by Lydia:

I've noticed a trend... if it's a "good" entry of mine, the score goes down on the last day or two.

If it's "not that great" of an image, the score goes up the last day or two.

That actually makes sense. I think last day votes are in adjustment mode. We have many voters that vote in a very narrow range (like 4,5,6 or 5,6,7) and if you want to keep your average vote given (which is very important to some) at a certain level it's "safe" to raise a few of your lower votes up a notch without impacting the final outcome too much. Some 4's go to 5's or 5's to 6's.
03/30/2022 09:01:23 PM · #20
Originally posted by glad2badad:

Originally posted by Lydia:

I've noticed a trend... if it's a "good" entry of mine, the score goes down on the last day or two.

If it's "not that great" of an image, the score goes up the last day or two.

That actually makes sense. I think last day votes are in adjustment mode. We have many voters that vote in a very narrow range (like 4,5,6 or 5,6,7) and if you want to keep your average vote given (which is very important to some) at a certain level it's "safe" to raise a few of your lower votes up a notch without impacting the final outcome too much. Some 4's go to 5's or 5's to 6's.


You’re obviously not concerned about your average vote given ;)
03/31/2022 03:47:39 AM · #21
Originally posted by Neat:


You’re obviously not concerned about your average vote given ;)

Not much really. I generally cast a full range of votes; usually between 3 to 8, but will use the entire 1 to 10 as needed.
04/04/2022 05:51:49 PM · #22
Here's an example of falling off a cliff (vote-wise):
Soft II

Votes: 2
Score: 7.0000
----
Votes: 3
Score: 7.0000
----
Votes: 6
Score: 6.0000
----
Votes: 9
Score: 5.3333

I predict a finishing score of about 4.6 ...
04/05/2022 07:50:00 AM · #23
Originally posted by GeneralE:

Here's an example of falling off a cliff (vote-wise):
Soft II

Votes: 2
Score: 7.0000
----
Votes: 3
Score: 7.0000
----
Votes: 6
Score: 6.0000
----
Votes: 9
Score: 5.3333

I predict a finishing score of about 4.6 ...


LOL ... that's positive thinking :-)
04/07/2022 12:22:30 AM · #24
no cliff. an almost steady diet of 5's. more or less. like going to a hamburger place and just getting fries. no ketchup, no vinegar, no salt.

need drink.
04/11/2022 07:39:01 AM · #25
Originally posted by kasaba:

Originally posted by GeneralE:

Here's an example of falling off a cliff (vote-wise):
Soft II

Votes: 2
Score: 7.0000
----
Votes: 3
Score: 7.0000
----
Votes: 6
Score: 6.0000
----
Votes: 9
Score: 5.3333

I predict a finishing score of about 4.6 ...


LOL ... that's positive thinking :-)

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