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11/09/2004 11:47:05 PM · #1
...when they upoload photos so they can check on something like "I don't want any critique, my work is always perfect, I'm just doing you a favor by showing it". So when we get to that pictures we don't get the text box and move on. Just for the record, starting now, to whoever replyes privately to comments I make I'm not going to just delete the mail without reading it as I did until today, I'm goig to search the image and vote it a 1 istead of anything I voted before. Just like that, so they learn to respect my time spent on looking commenting and honestly suggesting improovements to theyr images. Instead they go "Some people comments just come way out from left field, and this was one of them."
I say some people don't deserve comments...
11/09/2004 11:54:23 PM · #2
You're going to vote their entry a 1 because they reply to you? Great voting style. If you don't like replies, then don't leave a comment?
11/09/2004 11:57:26 PM · #3
this site is designed in such way that the photographer is anonymous for a purpose, and I'd like to respect that. Besides I don't care about any explanations if I don't see it first time in the image probably the message is not as clear as it should be. Anyways replying to me and saying "Some people comments just come way out from left field, and this was one of them." to a perfectly constructive criticism, I consider that a total disrespect for my time spent on evaluating that image.
I said it before nobody should spam people privately with relplyes and explanations and shit, that should be even in the rules of the site. It's unrevealing identities during challenge, and I like to judge based on my impressions on the image not on anyone's explanations and whinings.

Message edited by author 2004-11-09 23:59:24.
11/10/2004 12:04:39 AM · #4
really I consider that as dishonest as participating in a contest and trying to impress the jury by whining privately about god knows what...
but maybe that's just me, I see 67 viewed this and they don't care about it...
11/10/2004 12:12:21 AM · #5
I am sympathetic to your plight, and don't really mind your voting those 1s, if that's your way of dealing with people who don't respect anonymity. But it would make your protest more useful if you also send an answer to their reply telling them they just got themself a 1 and why.
11/10/2004 12:15:25 AM · #6
......thus discouraging people from both commenting and meaningful discussion.

All in one fell swoop. 67 people read it. 60 didn't know how to say "uh, yeah, ok."

M
11/10/2004 12:16:41 AM · #7
Negative energy is such a waste.

Ignore them or do as you did before and toss the messages, but being vindictive and intentionally searching someone out to go mark their score a 1 is about the lowest thing I have ever heard of anyone doing here.

Shrug it off, don't vote, don't comment or whatever, and move on.


11/10/2004 12:18:59 AM · #8
I don't get this. What if someone wants to thank you for your time. What if someone really thought you helped them. What if it's not out of spite. I don't think you should judge something like that. Not everyone belittles every comment. And another thing, maybe if you're offending someone enough that they tell you privately, you should re-evaluate your method or definition of constructive critisism.
11/10/2004 12:27:31 AM · #9
Originally posted by magicshutter:

I don't get this. What if someone wants to thank you for your time. What if someone really thought you helped them. What if it's not out of spite. I don't think you should judge something like that. Not everyone belittles every comment. And another thing, maybe if you're offending someone enough that they tell you privately, you should re-evaluate your method or definition of constructive critisism.


To thank me they can wait till its over... And they should respect my time wasted on evaluating not pretend me to reevaluate.

Originally posted by coolhar:

I am sympathetic to your plight, and don't really mind your voting those 1s, if that's your way of dealing with people who don't respect anonymity. But it would make your protest more useful if you also send an answer to their reply telling them they just got themself a 1 and why.


Actualy that's a good ideea I'm gonna do that.
11/10/2004 12:30:04 AM · #10
My I offer you a suggestion that may stop or deter someone from PM’ing you on a comment. In the very first line of your bio in bold writing state that you do not want anyone to PM you about a comment you have made and if they do so they will receive a 1. I’m not say I agree or disagree with what you have decided to do, but it is your right.
I don’t believe people should PM a commenter during a challenge because;
1. It identifies the photographer.
2. And the most important thing is that I may stop someone from commenting because of the PM’s they receive and I believe comments are very helpful when give in a constructive manner.

11/10/2004 12:36:53 AM · #11
I think it's WRONG to give any photo a "1" just because they replied to your comment. If they replied to your comment and you don't like that because of annonymity, that's fine, reply and tell them that. Some people don't realize this. Instead of giving their photo a 1, give them the benefit of the doubt and try to help them out a little.

I understand if the reply they give you is garbage or rude, but still you should not change your vote. Just delete the reply. Giving ones to images that don't deserve a 1 is wrong in my opinion unless you give it as your "gut vote" from the start.

Just my 2.5 cents. :)

11/10/2004 12:37:26 AM · #12
Interesting. I actually value replies to comments I've made and I look forward to them. Then again, I take considerable time commenting and I always mention at least 1 good and bad point. Sure I may throw a "awesome!" here and there but for the most part, I try to do my personal best at finding stuff others may not. After all, we're here to learn.

I do believe there are many that simply don't wish to receive comments. And I do feel there should be a "Please do not comment on my entry" checkbox. Not only will this spare the site bandwidth, it'll also keep the databases a tad bit emptier. It would be even better if that checkbox could deactivate the comments box from appearing altogether.
11/10/2004 12:52:37 AM · #13
this is a tough topic.. i've had comments that tell me what i meant to do, and did well, is bad... sorry if it's not that persons taste... we are all (ok most of us) artists, and not all art is not appealing to everyone. there are many techniques and styles. i take all comments with a grain of salt, because no one sees my image through my eyes, and i can understand that. i just wish people wouldn't be rude or totally negative with their comments.
11/10/2004 01:04:08 AM · #14
exactly just because someone doesn't see it as you do you shouldn't go out tellin people they are "leftfield commenters" and such, that's total disrespect. All comments I recive are helpful to me and the ones that don't agree with my views are the most helpful to me. They help me learn the most about how other people sees my stuff. It is one condition that must be a real artist. And these are not my words, my teachers told me in school (an art school). Before you become an artist you must really learn to be truth to yourself and accept that no matter how good artist you become you can do crap every now and then, and you don't have to stick to your crap just because you made it. You need to learn to flush when it stinks. I hope this makes sense it sounds much better in my language I loughed so good in that class then. Some people here think theyr work is always perfect and any criticism is leftfield... then they complain about comments being less and less every challenge...

PS. Oh if I just could delete some of my entries in some challenges today...

Message edited by author 2004-11-10 01:07:54.
11/10/2004 01:13:49 AM · #15
Perhaps you should macro in a "Note : Please do not PM me since it will just PO me"... Then folks will know you don't want PMs... Personally, I don't mind it if someone PMs me about a comment I make... I'm glad they cared enough to reply.
11/10/2004 01:25:18 AM · #16
I'm glad too about that, I sometimes check on comments I made see if anyone replied also, but what reply is so important that it can't wait until challenge is over? I still consider that desperate act, unrevealing identity and trying to dishonestly impress the jury with stupid explanations when you are supose to impress with the image.
11/10/2004 01:38:19 AM · #17
Originally posted by frumoaznicul:

I'm glad too about that, I sometimes check on comments I made see if anyone replied also, but what reply is so important that it can't wait until challenge is over? I still consider that desperate act, unrevealing identity and trying to dishonestly impress the jury with stupid explanations when you are supose to impress with the image.


Once again, I will suggest... If you don't want PM's to your comments, it'd be very simple to set a single keystroke that will add "Please don't PM me during the voting period"

It seems to me this would solve your problem... no? Then I can still get PM's in response to my comments and you won't get any to yours... Seems kind of simple...
11/10/2004 01:44:58 AM · #18
Cristi,

Having received a few of those types of PM's myself, I certainly appreciate your frustration. That said, I don't think your idea of downvoting entries where the photographer replied to your comment is a good one -- it is, in fact, expressly brohibited by the rules.

Your vote should be based upon the content of the photograph, and that's it.

-Terry
11/10/2004 01:45:40 AM · #19
During challenges...PM=PO=1=I HATE YOU! )C: Good for the bio.
11/10/2004 01:49:04 AM · #20
Originally posted by ClubJuggle:

Cristi,

Having received a few of those types of PM's myself, I certainly appreciate your frustration. That said, I don't think your idea of downvoting entries where the photographer replied to your comment is a good one -- it is, in fact, expressly brohibited by the rules.

Your vote should be based upon the content of the photograph, and that's it.

-Terry


Hmmmmm ok I thought I can vote based on persons and characters too if they willingly unreveal themselves but if those are the rules, I gave him back his 5... same to me.

Can I leave the threat that I will give them a 1 if they PM me on my bio? I really wanna scare them away... I promisse not to act on it tho.

Message edited by author 2004-11-10 01:52:14.
11/10/2004 01:59:52 AM · #21
So if I enter an image, without any use of photoshop filters or layers and get comments to the effect of 'I'm marking you down for using too many filters' I should, or shouldn't PM a reply.

Sure, it is the person's 'opinion' but if the express it to show that they have made a series of mistaken assumptions - should it just be ignored ?

11/10/2004 02:07:45 AM · #22
I got plenty of those on this image:

I also edited it alot less then many thought, the edit could almost be good for basic editing, but I didn't replied to none of those. Usualy I don't talk to paranoid people whatever theyr paranoya is. On this site there is a living epidemy of "anti photoshop" paranoya and I am aware by replying to one or 2 comments while 100 others just vote and don't comment is useless. So I didn't bother, I just posted the making of in the forums after challenge. Probably mine whas a bit edited and yours whasn't at all but do you really think you can cahnge anything by 2-3 replies on about 200 votes?
11/10/2004 02:09:22 AM · #23
Would you be PO'd if the comment read

"I'm sorry, I might be missing something, but I don't quite get how your comment relates to my photo" or something like that?

Also, remember that your comments are your opinion and that, while you are 100% entitled to it, everyone else is entitled to their opinion of your opinion too. That you don't agree with it doesn't make the person a bad person ... and it certainly doesn't make their photo a bad photo.

In fact, voting a photo down because of a comment someone made just might violate the site TOS ... I'd have to think about that some more.

Message edited by author 2004-11-10 02:11:45.
11/10/2004 02:10:08 AM · #24
frumoaznicul, I see on your profile page you took the advice I offered earlier in this tread. I hope it helps you.

My I offer you a suggestion that may stop or deter someone from PM’ing you on a comment. In the very first line of your bio in bold writing state that you do not want anyone to PM you about a comment you have made and if they do so they will receive a 1. I’m not say I agree or disagree with what you have decided to do, but it is your right.
I don’t believe people should PM a commenter during a challenge because;
1. It identifies the photographer.
2. And the most important thing is that I may stop someone from commenting because of the PM’s they receive and I believe comments are very helpful when give in a constructive manner.



Message edited by author 2004-11-10 02:11:00.
11/10/2004 02:17:12 AM · #25
Originally posted by GeneralE:

Would you be PO'd if the comment read

"I'm sorry, I might be missing something, but I don't quite get how your comment relates to my photo" or something like that?

Also, remember that your comments are your opinion and that, while you are 100% entitled to it, everyone else is entitled to their opinion of your opinion too. That you don't agree with it doesn't make the person a bad person ...


Why is there an anonimty on the site then? I agree with you anyone can reply but why not after challenge? And belive me my comment is clear readable and constructive, not an insult or anything like that.

Besides if in life you go to a real contest of anything and whenever you feel like without being asked you go to the jury trying to motivate stuff you will be most probably disqualified from the contest.

My comments are my opinions, I don't own the absolute truth, if many other commenters don't get your image you may ask yourself some questions, if it's only me could mean I can't connect to your message for whatever reason, 1 vote and 1 comment in 200 average doesn't matter anyways. If you want to discuss it with me do it after the challenge is over for the sake of fairness. But even if you can't do any of these and you still feel like replying don't reply to a perfectly constructive opinion with " Some people comments just come way out from left field, and this was one of them." just because you disagree. Have a bit of respect for me and my time spent on commenting your image for god's sake. This is what I'm trying to say.
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