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11/09/2004 08:37:23 PM · #1
As the Open challenge heads more rgularly for 400+ entries, and the current one for possibly 500, do we need to think about some means of preventing complete overload of entries?

Any kind of decent judgement of the images is going to take anyone an enormous amount of time, and those working on dial-up are going to be pretty hard-pushed even to register their votes at all.

I have no idea how it might be done, or whether perhaps the lower limit of votes to register should be lowered to perhaps a specific number rather than a percentage (how about 40?), but I think the time is rapidly approaching when the sheer quantitly of shots in a challenge is going to get out of hand.

E
11/09/2004 08:40:39 PM · #2
More byzantine rules ?

More DQs. Let the SC deal with the volume. Everyone (?) would be happy.
11/09/2004 08:42:06 PM · #3
I am working on a piece of software more like a meat grinder. It will analyse 500 entries at amazing speed and will spit out all inferior entries. The beta is working fine. I have tried it on my port and it has spit out the entire set. ROFL
11/09/2004 08:45:50 PM · #4
the best way is to cut down the entry time. Maybe like 3 days is good. (for open challenges) open challenges can have one 3 day entry time per week. Members get their normal week to enter. This will also encourage more members and when that gets outa hand well take it from there.
11/09/2004 08:46:44 PM · #5
Hey. Do mine next. Think of all the server space that will free up!
I got a new system for mass scoring with my dial up. Three windows at a time. I can speed vote with the best of them now although I will only vote on 50 to 70 percent. I did about 150 votes in an hour the other day.
11/09/2004 08:47:45 PM · #6
It's a little late here, and I've been experimenting with a damned marvellous 1999 syrah, but on re-reading my post I'd like to firmly make the suggestion that the percentage votes thing be removed and replaced with a requirement to register 40 votes before they're counted. If you're on dial-up, you'll need to vote on 100 photos to get through on the current macro challenge.

I'd be all for a filter that rejected any photos not taken by someone using a Nikon whose user name begins with e, however.

E
11/09/2004 08:51:50 PM · #7
I think that having to many participants is a lot better than not enough.
11/09/2004 08:52:35 PM · #8
Shorten the submission period from one week to 4 days.
11/09/2004 08:58:19 PM · #9
Originally posted by Gordon:

More byzantine rules ?

More DQs. Let the SC deal with the volume. Everyone (?) would be happy.


I agree with that.

If the shot is complete crap....DQ it.
11/09/2004 09:00:37 PM · #10
Another idea I am working on is another piece of software that will have a questionaire about your likes and dislike and impulsive behaviour and the any tendency to be punitive in your judgment.

Once this data is processed the software will do the voting for you. Notice that it gives trollers the opportunity to be equally represented.
11/09/2004 09:00:45 PM · #11
Limit the number of entries, then close the challenge.
11/09/2004 09:02:15 PM · #12
what about the following:

All entries are accepted, after the first two days, the lower 50% of images are eliminated and ranked as is. After the next two days, the next 50% (25% total) are eleminated and ranked as is.

Then the final 3 days are used to vote on the top 25% of the images
11/09/2004 09:04:51 PM · #13
Originally posted by zeuszen:

Limit the number of entries, then close the challenge.


I dont think that would be fair, some of the best photos are last minute...or hour entries.

I guess some people get their creative jucies flowing when the clock is clicking.
11/09/2004 09:07:15 PM · #14
Originally posted by Riggs:

Originally posted by zeuszen:

Limit the number of entries, then close the challenge.


I dont think that would be fair, some of the best photos are last minute...or hour entries.

I guess some people get their creative jucies flowing when the clock is clicking.


There is always a last minute. The number of submissions is published.
11/09/2004 09:13:03 PM · #15
Originally posted by zeuszen:

Originally posted by Riggs:

Originally posted by zeuszen:

Limit the number of entries, then close the challenge.


I dont think that would be fair, some of the best photos are last minute...or hour entries.

I guess some people get their creative jucies flowing when the clock is clicking.


There is always a last minute. The number of submissions is published.


True.

But lots of folks take their photos on the weekends. I would hate for someone to come home late on a sunday after a weekend of photo taking and not being able to enter simly because its filled up.

11/09/2004 09:18:37 PM · #16
wouldn't it be more simple to write an algorhythm that changes the percent of photos you need to vote on depending on the volume of them? OR! Set an algorhythm that automatically shows the photos with the least votes first so that there tend to be a fairly even amount of votes spread to every photo.

Personlly I don't see the problem with having so many photos, I think it's GREAT that so many people are trying to share their work and hopefully improve because of this site.
11/09/2004 09:20:11 PM · #17
Originally posted by Riggs:

...But lots of folks take their photos on the weekends. I would hate for someone to come home late on a sunday after a weekend of photo taking and not being able to enter simly because its filled up.


Install a Sunday Driver Challenge for Sir Cam Currie et al.? Deadline 5 am DPC time.
11/09/2004 09:22:39 PM · #18
This was a major suggestion back in the day: A DPC Caste system.

Novice, Intermediate, and Master classes. You can only compete and vote in your class. There is some requirement to "graduate" to the next class.

I'd probably end up in the "untouchables" class, of course, but eventually I'd graduate.
11/09/2004 09:23:35 PM · #19
If the site does indeed make these photos completely random, it doesn't matter if one does not vote on all photos, though that would be nice. I'm not sure what kind of randomizer there is here, but I have noticed--perhaps falsely--that late entries tend to be toward the back.
11/09/2004 09:23:52 PM · #20
Make it so the paid members can't enter the open challenges. That would cut down on the munber of entrys.
11/09/2004 09:26:34 PM · #21
Originally posted by MinAlex:

Make it so the paid members can't enter the open challenges. That would cut down on the munber of entrys.


Should we shoot him now or later... :-p
11/09/2004 09:27:54 PM · #22
Set a limit on the number of entries, but also accept "donations" to allow last minute entries. :)


11/09/2004 09:28:07 PM · #23
Originally posted by MinAlex:

Make it so the paid members can't enter the open challenges. That would cut down on the munber of entrys.


omgwtflolbbq
11/09/2004 09:30:02 PM · #24
I think any proposed changes should meet a couple of criteria

1/ Enhance the site for members over non-members

2/ Improve the quality of entries

Limiting open challenges to non-members or reducing the entry time don't
appear to help the site improve. They penalise members or reduce the time taken over any given entry.
11/09/2004 09:34:41 PM · #25
I still say, put them through the meat grinder described above. This will not only reduce the amount of entries but will make the site more environmentally friendly with less litter. lol
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