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08/13/2021 04:38:06 PM · #1
The results of the 'A Night On The Town II' challenge have been recalculated due to the disqualification of the former 5th place image. The entrant used processing not allowed in Minimal editing.

Congratulations to the entry that has now moved into 5th place for a HM finish.
08/13/2021 04:55:47 PM · #2
Glad I didnít enter - totally missed that it was minimal.
08/13/2021 05:57:19 PM · #3
Originally posted by SaraR:

Glad I didnít enter - totally missed that it was minimal.

Me too. AGAIN :-( Had to DQ myself just before rollover when I realized...
08/13/2021 06:08:41 PM · #4
I shot for Standard... told my bartender that I'd blur out that Geico TV in the back.

Then, when I got home... Minimal appeared.

No blur.
08/16/2021 05:08:05 PM · #5
Pleased as punch to have gotten a ribbon in a Minimal challenge. A new PB in that category.

Loved it that the two comments that I got were pretty much diametrically opposed.

FWIW, that little corner bar is about three doors down from my place and it is very quiet during the week.
08/17/2021 04:30:01 PM · #6
Originally posted by Bear_Music:

Originally posted by SaraR:

Glad I didnít enter - totally missed that it was minimal.

Me too. AGAIN :-( Had to DQ myself just before rollover when I realized...
just stop this minimal nonsense altogether! ))) Actually, I still don't get the point of these handicapped challenges
08/17/2021 05:03:33 PM · #7
Originally posted by LevT:

Originally posted by Bear_Music:

Originally posted by SaraR:

Glad I didnít enter - totally missed that it was minimal.

Me too. AGAIN :-( Had to DQ myself just before rollover when I realized...
just stop this minimal nonsense altogether! ))) Actually, I still don't get the point of these handicapped challenges

If it were up to me, I would. But I'm just one voice... Now, if we could get all three admins to agree, maybe we could bulldoze.... Mrmmmm...
08/17/2021 06:41:29 PM · #8
Originally posted by Bear_Music:

Originally posted by LevT:

Originally posted by Bear_Music:

Originally posted by SaraR:

Glad I didnít enter - totally missed that it was minimal.

Me too. AGAIN :-( Had to DQ myself just before rollover when I realized...
just stop this minimal nonsense altogether! ))) Actually, I still don't get the point of these handicapped challenges

If it were up to me, I would. But I'm just one voice... Now, if we could get all three admins to agree, maybe we could bulldoze.... Mrmmmm...


Bring on the bulldozer, Bear!

08/17/2021 06:47:46 PM · #9
Originally posted by Lydia:

Originally posted by Bear_Music:

Originally posted by LevT:

Originally posted by Bear_Music:

Originally posted by SaraR:

Glad I didnít enter - totally missed that it was minimal.

Me too. AGAIN :-( Had to DQ myself just before rollover when I realized...
just stop this minimal nonsense altogether! ))) Actually, I still don't get the point of these handicapped challenges

If it were up to me, I would. But I'm just one voice... Now, if we could get all three admins to agree, maybe we could bulldoze.... Mrmmmm...


Bring on the bulldozer, Bear!

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However, I'm a fan of Minimal challenges (with the *right* topic) so I think y'all should quit whining and check your settings before pressing the shutter ... ;-)
08/17/2021 09:01:03 PM · #10
Originally posted by Bear_Music:

Originally posted by LevT:

Originally posted by Bear_Music:

Originally posted by SaraR:

Glad I didnít enter - totally missed that it was minimal.

Me too. AGAIN :-( Had to DQ myself just before rollover when I realized...
just stop this minimal nonsense altogether! ))) Actually, I still don't get the point of these handicapped challenges

If it were up to me, I would. But I'm just one voice... Now, if we could get all three admins to agree, maybe we could bulldoze.... Mrmmmm...

Robert! What the hell? I'm not sure if you're being tongue in cheek here or not, but if it's at face value it's not a fair or funny statement to make.

We've had banters going back years in this community about Minimal (and Extended) challenges. There have always been some coming down on both sides of the conversation, but to hear the site Admin say this is painful. I think Minimal challenges are an awesome way to stretch yourself as a photographer.

Here's some past quotes where there was support for this ruleset.
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In an SC thread where a discussion of Minimal challenges came up:
4/04/2021
Originally posted by glad2badad:


It's my opinion that we should have equal representation of Minimal vs Extended challenges.

It's a great exercise in photography to have to consider your composition (subject placement, straight horizon, etc.) when you press the shutter button. It's also a great exercise in learning the gear that you use. Just like Extended is a teacher of post-processing, Minimal is a teacher of what your camera is capable of. Basic adjustments can greatly influence the jpg that is produced. I'm not talking about major extreme stuff, I'm just talking about setting your saturation, contrast, and sharpening in-camera for starters. Then there's other things like white balance, +/- exposure compensation, exposure lock, and so on.


Response ...
Originally posted by Bear_Music:


I'm in the Barry camp on this one: Minimal is good exercise :-)

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Open Forum discussion - 11/20/2019
Originally posted by Bear_Music:


In photography, as in virtually any other enterprise you could name, the closer you nail a thing from the get-go, the better the final result will be. A properly-exposed image is the first step along the road to a superbly-finished image. This should be obvious to everyone.

A properly-framed image (that requires no cropping) will produce a better result than an image that requires extreme cropping. A little forethought at the framing and shooting stage will save a lot of work at the finishing stage. As with any sort of "crafty" process, be it photography or painting or cooking or woodworking or knitting, the better you understand (and care for) your tools and the better you appreciate the fundamental processes that go into a finished work, the more potential you have to really shine.

So my question is, "What's the payoff in RESISTING this?" What does any photographer have to GAIN by not internalizing the gestalt of his tool (the camera) and his interaction with it?


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10/23/2018
Originally posted by NikonJeb:

Originally posted by bob350:

Although we have the opportunity to submit Minimal Editing images in most challenges, the tighter rules in a specifically Minimal challenge afford a more equitable competition environment for such images.


What he said...

I'd be willing to bet that more long term DPCers would tell you that they are most intimidated trying to create a great image within this ruleset than any other.

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08/03/2018
Originally posted by Bear_Music:

Originally posted by glad2badad:

I see another Expert challenge on the board <sigh> ... can we please get a Minimal challenge again and maybe balance these options. Thanks.

I'll make sure we post one up next Thursday, OK? It's about time, I agree.


Edit - typo.

Message edited by author 2021-08-17 21:01:50.
08/17/2021 09:20:19 PM · #11
Originally posted by glad2badad:

Robert! What the hell? I'm not sure if you're being tongue in cheek here or not, but if it's at face value it's not a fair or funny statement to make.

I think you can breath easy, Barry. Minimal isn't likely to go anywhere.
08/17/2021 09:37:28 PM · #12
Tongue in cheek, Barry, tongue in cheek. The implication was meant to be "Since I have DQ'd in the last 3 Minimals, I'm in favor of the nuclear option!" and I thought the reference to the other admins with the "mrmmmm" was a dead giveaway. So it goes :-) Rest easy, sir, and peace be upon ye :-)
08/17/2021 11:15:19 PM · #13
WOw.

I'll endure more Minimals... or not enter them... if it's a sore spot for the SC.

I appreciate their dedication and work.

But... It's a sacrifice. Ha!

08/18/2021 07:09:41 AM · #14
yes, it shouldn't :D as many of my top shots are in minimal meaning you can say I am really bad with the post processing so prefer to have no post processing shots - LOL

Originally posted by markwiley:

Originally posted by glad2badad:

Robert! What the hell? I'm not sure if you're being tongue in cheek here or not, but if it's at face value it's not a fair or funny statement to make.

I think you can breath easy, Barry. Minimal isn't likely to go anywhere.
08/18/2021 12:21:36 PM · #15
Originally posted by LevT:

just stop this minimal nonsense altogether! ))) Actually, I still don't get the point of these handicapped challenges


Originally posted by Bear_Music:

If it were up to me, I would. But I'm just one voice... Now, if we could get all three admins to agree, maybe we could bulldoze.... Mrmmmm...


Originally posted by glad2badad:

Robert! What the hell? I'm not sure if you're being tongue in cheek here or not, but if it's at face value it's not a fair or funny statement to make.


Not even a little...

Originally posted by glad2badad:

We've had banters going back years in this community about Minimal (and Extended) challenges. There have always been some coming down on both sides of the conversation, but to hear the site Admin say this is painful. I think Minimal challenges are an awesome way to stretch yourself as a photographer.


There is little or no justification to jettison the Minimal ruleset.

It's in place, it works, yes, for whatever peculiar reasoning there aren't a lot of supporters for it, but it also doesn't take a rocket surgeon to know why.

It takes real talent and not a little bit of luck to pull off a truly stellar shot straight out of the camera.

I can't imagine it takes much work for the validation process, either, so why even consider it.

And why does it continue to get bad-mouthed and bandied about??? WTF?

If you don't like it, don't enter, but why make negative comments about it?

I'm am decidedly with Barry on this too, Robert. That was just wrong.

You're an admin, you can't say sh*t like that.


08/18/2021 12:23:59 PM · #16
Originally posted by Lydia:

<snippity-do-dah> I'll endure more Minimals...


Just asking.... What on earth does this mean?

If you decide not to enter a Minimal challenge, what is it that you have to endure???
08/18/2021 01:29:13 PM · #17
Originally posted by LevT:

Originally posted by Bear_Music:

Originally posted by SaraR:

Glad I didnít enter - totally missed that it was minimal.

Me too. AGAIN :-( Had to DQ myself just before rollover when I realized...
just stop this minimal nonsense altogether! ))) Actually, I still don't get the point of these handicapped challenges

Exactly! Crazy clinging to the past, very old-fashioned :)
08/18/2021 01:37:21 PM · #18
I would appreciate if more of the Minimal challenges allowed only cropping. We have had some of these type of challenges in the past. If you prefer shooting things like landscapes, static scenes, and studio portraits, then getting the framing perfect in camera can be easier. If you like capturing passing moments and street photography, then being able to at least crop a bit would be helpful. I realize this may rub the Minimal purists the wrong way.
08/18/2021 02:40:32 PM · #19
Originally posted by markwiley:

I would appreciate if more of the Minimal challenges allowed only cropping. We have had some of these type of challenges in the past. If you prefer shooting things like landscapes, static scenes, and studio portraits, then getting the framing perfect in camera can be easier. If you like capturing passing moments and street photography, then being able to at least crop a bit would be helpful. I realize this may rub the Minimal purists the wrong way.


+Infinity

Unless you're baiting wildlife or shooting macro it's hard to get up close to an eagle or a bear
So cropping is a necessity. Whereas if I'm shooting a still life or even Moriarty, I definitely can crop in camera successfully. Minimal editing is definitely an interesting exercise in getting things right, but not allowing cropping seems kind of pointless. I'm even fine with you can crop but not straighten if you want to add some difficulty.

But considering all of these cameras that have artistic settings that are now part of the original JPEG, it is getting a little silly. But I like the opportunitu to be challenged.
08/18/2021 05:43:56 PM · #20
Originally posted by markwiley:

I would appreciate if more of the Minimal challenges allowed only cropping. We have had some of these type of challenges in the past. If you prefer shooting things like landscapes, static scenes, and studio portraits, then getting the framing perfect in camera can be easier. If you like capturing passing moments and street photography, then being able to at least crop a bit would be helpful. I realize this may rub the Minimal purists the wrong way.


Originally posted by vawendy:

+Infinity

Unless you're baiting wildlife or shooting macro it's hard to get up close to an eagle or a bear
So cropping is a necessity. Whereas if I'm shooting a still life or even Moriarty, I definitely can crop in camera successfully. Minimal editing is definitely an interesting exercise in getting things right, but not allowing cropping seems kind of pointless. I'm even fine with you can crop but not straighten if you want to add some difficulty.

But considering all of these cameras that have artistic settings that are now part of the original JPEG, it is getting a little silly. But I like the opportunitu to be challenged.

But that's the entire point of Minimal.

Create the image without doing anything to it.

I have to say that considering the parameters, wildlife and sports photography would be pretty far down the list.

There again......think how much better you feel when you get a noteworthy shot for Minimal.

I would honestly say that there is *nothing* that makes me work harder and pushes me further than to shoot for a Minimal challenge.
08/19/2021 12:46:46 PM · #21
Originally posted by NikonJeb:

I have to say that considering the parameters, wildlife and sports photography would be pretty far down the list.

Could you clarify for me what list you are talking about here. I am not looking for an argument -- I am just trying to understand the point you are going for.

Originally posted by NikonJeb:

There again......think how much better you feel when you get a noteworthy shot for Minimal.
I would honestly say that there is *nothing* that makes me work harder and pushes me further than to shoot for a Minimal challenge.

I have had my share of both successes and failures for Minimal challenges. I would honestly say that there are few things about Minimal challenges that I find more frustrating than to have an image I like that can be made more powerful with a simple crop. It's like enduring a slightly under seasoned meal with the salt and pepper shakers sitting on the table in front of me. There is no need to reiterate the point of Minimal challenges here. I understand. I am simply requesting occasionally allowing cropping especially when the Minimal challenge theme is open to more dynamic scenes such as wildlife, sports, and street photography.
08/19/2021 01:31:46 PM · #22
Originally posted by NikonJeb:

I have to say that considering the parameters, wildlife and sports photography would be pretty far down the list.

Originally posted by markwiley:

Could you clarify for me what list you are talking about here. I am not looking for an argument -- I am just trying to understand the point you are going for.

Unless when I came out of my house to go to work and Alyson Felix had stopped from a morning run and was resting on the bench in front of my gallery, or a yellow crested night heron was sitting on the hood of my truck, I consider the sports and wildlife categories virtually impossible for Minimal. LOL!

Originally posted by NikonJeb:

There again......think how much better you feel when you get a noteworthy shot for Minimal.
I would honestly say that there is *nothing* that makes me work harder and pushes me further than to shoot for a Minimal challenge.

Originally posted by markwiley:

I would honestly say that there are few things about Minimal challenges that I find more frustrating than to have an image I like that can be made more powerful with a simple crop.

And this doesn't clarify my point how??? <Ducking & grinning>

I'm a serial offender when it comes to composition where sometimes I'll zoom out for possibly changing the dynamic of an image entirely with cropping.

With Minimal, I spend most of my time composing the image by trying to get it right in the frame.

Don't misunderstand me.....I, in general, think the Minimal ruleset is a flat-out b*tch.

But I *SO* love it when I get something decent.
08/19/2021 04:05:57 PM · #23
Originally posted by NikonJeb:

... I consider the sports and wildlife categories virtually impossible for Minimal. LOL!

That was the point I was trying to make, Jeb. If you occasionally allow cropping with Minimal challenges, these categories of photography remain challenging without making them virtually impossible.
08/19/2021 04:20:55 PM · #24
Originally posted by markwiley:

Originally posted by NikonJeb:

... I consider the sports and wildlife categories virtually impossible for Minimal. LOL!

That was the point I was trying to make, Jeb. If you occasionally allow cropping with Minimal challenges, these categories of photography remain challenging without making them virtually impossible.

Well, if you suggest a challenge to which you want apply Minimal editing you can specify a "cropping allowed" option as part of your suggestion. Most Minimal challenges have been for static objects or require a specific exposure technique (e.g. "color" challenges).

I don't remember anyone suggesting "Birds in Flight" as a Minimal challenge ... (yet) ...
08/19/2021 06:40:34 PM · #25
Originally posted by NikonJeb:

... I consider the sports and wildlife categories virtually impossible for Minimal. LOL!

Originally posted by markwiley:

That was the point I was trying to make, Jeb. If you occasionally allow cropping with Minimal challenges, these categories of photography remain challenging without making them virtually impossible.

Isn't having the various categories kind of about something for everybody?

I don't even bother to shoot for wildlife and sports because I suck at them, no, excuse me *SUCK* at them.

So the Skips and Wendys who can do it upside down falling off a log take it in those categories and I have my thing which is more to the abandoned thing.

I dunno..... Considering the rarity of those challenges in the first place, and IMNSHO the really not so strong rationale to change up the ruleset, I'd say let it alone.

For two genres, change the no crop rule? Seems weak. Again, the challenge.

I doubt anyone truly feels that the no crop aspect is anything but difficult, no matter what their preferred genre is.

Again, if you *really* don't like them, pass.

And seriously......take a look at the ribbon count for yourself, look at mine.

Really??? You don't think that stepping off the front page for a quick minute wouldn't be good for the soul?

Sharpen that up if it's a weak point.
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