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 11/08/2004 12:58:36 AM · #1
I don't really know how to vote here so I'm looking for opinions...

The instructions were to title the photo with the month that the photo belongs, not to title the photo with the month the photo belongs and an explanation of how that photo applies to that month or anything else.

A fair amount of photos fall into that category. What do you guys think -- do they meet the challenge even though the instructions were clear?
 11/08/2004 01:00:49 AM · #2
It's called a photography contest. Why not vote on how well you think the photograph is and not worry about the title?
 11/08/2004 01:00:51 AM · #3
I personally am going to vote on the photo itself.
The title doesn't matter as much to me as the image. Sometimes all the title helps me to do is see the connection to the challenge
 11/08/2004 01:00:53 AM · #4
My suggestion is to be gentle with the titles and vote it as a free study.
 11/08/2004 01:01:06 AM · #5
as long as the month is in the title it should be ok... thats how i saw it when i was voting.
but to keep things safe i just titled mine the month.
 11/08/2004 01:03:40 AM · #6
I don't think you can look at this challenge as anything other than a free study. Calendars can include anything for any month. You might give a bump in score if a photo really illustrates the month to you. As discussed in previous threads, months are going to mean different things to different people depending on where they live and what culture they are from, so even that practice may be somewhat unfair. Vote on the merit of the photo and if you feel it is a calendar worthy photo.
 11/08/2004 01:08:12 AM · #7
i didnt enter but if i had entered a photo that did not have flowers for march, rain for april, snow for jan......then i would have done the same thing..people are so quick to say it doesn't meet the challenge and to try and find anything to vote down on, you have to do things like explain your reason in the title or your shot may get trashed for not meeting the challenge...because lets face it, not everyone is the sharpest pencil in the box here..including me with my alcohol induced thread posts

Message edited by author 2004-11-08 01:09:17.
 11/08/2004 01:09:18 AM · #8
Originally posted by peete:
as long as the month is in the title it should be ok... thats how i saw it when i was voting.
but to keep things safe i just titled mine the month.


I did the same...but thought about titling it "Month - Something Else" but then figured the rules were quite simple.

I'm not trying to come across harsh because I'm not, I'm really open when it comes to what fits challenges and what doesn't, but I feel my photo would have been better expressed with something after the month, but thought it then wouldn't fit the challenge.
 11/08/2004 01:22:50 AM · #9
sounds like you are talking in circles.


11/08/2004 02:02:40 AM · #10
There is no need to create a problem where it does not exist. Vote the image and ask yourself does it fit a calendar and then the month intended. As long as it fits, the image trumps the title.
 11/08/2004 02:30:46 AM · #11
I like specific rules, so for me, if the picture is not entitled properly (month it represents) it won't get as many points. In a contest, everything revolves around the theme and rules. A picture might be amazing, but if out of place, it cannot win a contest...
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 11/08/2004 02:40:56 AM · #12
Is it possible to keep things in perspective?

This is a contest for enjoyment and learning, not life and death, not the money to put bread on the table etc.

I find it hard to get my head around this thread is discussing the inclusion of extra text in the TITLE!

Come on, get a grip, if the title has the month what does the extra text matter????

I can't believe that people can be so bloody pedantic.
 11/08/2004 03:02:24 AM · #13
Well there isn't that much to learn, unfortunatly. There are barely any comments left during the voting process. We all know that the votes are not always really relevant. And when asked comments and opinion on pictures in the forums, its hard to get more then 5-6 hits.


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 11/08/2004 06:04:05 AM · #14
It doesn't bother me so much that the title isn't a month but that may be an indication that the entrant didn't bother to read the details, and that would bother me. It's kind of disrespectful to the voters if someone doesn't bother to read the deatils of a challenge.
 11/08/2004 07:03:43 AM · #15
Originally posted by colda:

Come on, get a grip, if the title has the month what does the extra text matter????

I can't believe that people can be so bloody pedantic.


heh...It's pretty apparent which 'responders' in this thread titled their entries with more than the month.

Sorry, but the way I see it, the rules are quite clear and it definately says to title your challenge entry with the name of the month.

And no, I don't think nit-picky or hard on people -- everybody read the same rules as everybody else. Taking a shot of a rain drop on the ground and titling it "Rain Drop - April" is like titling your photo whatever you want then just throwing a month in there so that you think you're following the rules.

If your concept is good enough, the entry should clearly illustrate a connection between the month and the image -- you shouldn't have to spell it out.

11/08/2004 07:09:32 AM · #16
A lot of people gave the month and the name of the calendar for context... there's nothing wrong with that, IMHO. The challenge instructions didn't say NOT to use any other words along with the month, so what is the big deal? :o)
 11/08/2004 07:15:07 AM · #17
I titled mine simply 'month' but its still getting hammered because the horizon is not straight but the horizon was not straight in real life so then what happens... anyway I think people should read the challenge rules and do accordingly just my 2c worth
 11/08/2004 07:15:58 AM · #18
There are people here from many cultures and countries... I felt mine needed an explanation after the month name, as the connection may not be apparent to those from other countries. This seems fair enough to me.
 11/08/2004 07:52:56 AM · #19
My personal feelings are as follows:

This isn't a Free Study challenge.

And just inventing a calendar (or referring to a real one) on one's chosen theme in order to be able to enter a photo of absolutely anything just strikes me as a way to make it into a Free Study. It might fit within the letter of the description but it doesn't really win points with me.

Personally I feel that there ought to be a relevance to the MONTHS aspect of the challenge. I do think that the image entered should attempt to convey the relevant time of year. There should be something about it that communicates the month to the viewer. I don't necessarily mean that it must be a straight shot of a landscape at the relevant time of year. I'm totally cool with shots of Santa stuff for December, love themes for February and pumpkins for October. Some events are strongly associated with the months in which they fall.

Personally I don't think much of entries where the image could just as easily be entered into ANY month at all.

Even if someone has chosen to represent an image from, say, a jewellery store's calendar (I'm picking that on the assumption that I'm not referring to an actual entry, I haven't looked through all the entries so if I seem to be referring to an actual one let me know and I'll edit to a different example) then I would be looking for a picture of their item of jewellery that also links to the month - whether it's a bracelet in a snowy setting for a winter month or a ring shown with some daffodils for a spring month. But just a plain image of a necklace with nothing at all to speak about season - it just strikes me as an easy way out to make this into a Free Study challenge.

So like it or not, my voting will reflect how I see it. (Feel free to flame but that is my prerogative!)

I really don't mind extra text alongside the month name within the titles - depending on whether it strikes me as an attempt to shoehorn an image into the challenge or simply as an explanation that serves to clarify a suitable entry. But of course whether an entry is "suitable" is all personal opinion really isn't it?

I'm not so keen on entries where the title doesn't include a month name at ALL.

Just for the record, my title is month name only.
11/08/2004 07:57:28 AM · #20
Well said Kavey. 100% with you on this.
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 11/08/2004 08:02:01 AM · #21
Hi

Well I am one of those so called thoughtless people who did not read the rules properly and along with the Month I added some extra text I am on a low score :( again! but I think thats because my pic is not good enough. I wish I had entered something else I had at least 4 others which were possibly better fitting for a calender challenge.

I am voting on the pic and try and imagine the pic on a calender thats the most important thing I believe.

Sorry to have disrespected the voters by being stupid and not reading entry requirements properly,

head bowed

Lisa :(
11/08/2004 09:37:57 AM · #22
Just wanted to add - it's not that I think all calendars DO reflect the month/ time of the year in their shots but that my feeling is that the challenge in this case is to do so.

I'm aware that I'm reading more into the challenge description than is there but feel it's important to distinguish this challenge from a Free Study one.
 11/08/2004 09:40:10 AM · #23
I agree with Kavey.
 11/08/2004 09:44:48 AM · #24
"Even if someone has chosen to represent an image from, say, a jewellery store's calendar (I'm picking that on the assumption that I'm not referring to an actual entry, I haven't looked through all the entries so if I seem to be referring to an actual one let me know and I'll edit to a different example) then I would be looking for a picture of their item of jewellery that also links to the month - whether it's a bracelet in a snowy setting for a winter month or a ring shown with some daffodils for a spring month. But just a plain image of a necklace with nothing at all to speak about season - it just strikes me as an easy way out to make this into a Free Study challenge."

The problem with this thinking is. It does not snow EVERYWHERE in December. As pointed out previously, somewhere in the world it is summer in December.
11/08/2004 09:58:36 AM · #25
Originally posted by dartompkins:
The problem with this thinking is. It does not snow EVERYWHERE in December. As pointed out previously, somewhere in the world it is summer in December.


OK... so a snowscape = "July, New Zealand." It's still specific to the time of year.
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