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05/04/2021 12:11:00 PM · #1
I doubt this is a composite, but it could be. The proportions are SO off (can you imagine Biden trying to fit into Mrs. Carter's seat???), it's hard to believe this is an official portrait. And yet it was released by the Carter Library.

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05/04/2021 12:13:24 PM · #2
Wide angle lens with perspective correction applied would be my guess.
05/04/2021 02:12:15 PM · #3
Originally posted by Venser:

Wide angle lens with perspective correction applied would be my guess.


But wouldn't that actually decrease the size of the outermost subjects?
05/04/2021 02:22:20 PM · #4
Originally posted by tanguera:

Originally posted by Venser:

Wide angle lens with perspective correction applied would be my guess.


But wouldn't that actually decrease the size of the outermost subjects?


No. Increase.
05/04/2021 03:24:37 PM · #5
Well it's obvious... the Carters are so dang old they have just shrunk that much! ;-)
05/04/2021 03:58:07 PM · #6
Originally posted by kirbic:

Well it's obvious... the Carters are so dang old they have just shrunk that much! ;-)

The Biden's got vaccinated a while ago. Maybe it causes gigantism in adults!
05/04/2021 04:04:23 PM · #7
In black & white it would be like an Addams family poster...
05/04/2021 04:22:12 PM · #8
Originally posted by Venser:

Wide angle lens with perspective correction applied would be my guess.


Agreed. Look how big Jimmy Carter's feet are.
05/04/2021 05:52:41 PM · #9
My news feed today had this as a featured article in Popular Mechanics. They simply explained it as way too wide a lens standing way to close to subjects.
05/04/2021 05:54:39 PM · #10
... and from too high a perspective.
05/04/2021 06:18:44 PM · #11
Out of abundance of caution, White House sent to the Carters inflatable dolls instead of real Mr. and Mrs. Biden, and they were accidentally overblown.
05/04/2021 09:51:34 PM · #12
Elf?
05/04/2021 11:40:33 PM · #13
I find it interesting that they photoshopped out the face masks!
05/05/2021 08:02:24 AM · #14
ďAre the Bidens giants? Are the Carters tiny? Or are our eyes failing us?Ē
There is an article in the Washington Post.
They feel it's a wide-angle lens.
Crazy they would print such an image, my guess is they has nothing better.
I just don't understand the use of a wide angle for a portrait. It would not be my choice and I donít think we are used to seeing it.
Hurts my eyes.
05/05/2021 10:04:48 AM · #15
Originally posted by Barroness:

ďAre the Bidens giants? Are the Carters tiny? Or are our eyes failing us?Ē
There is an article in the Washington Post.
They feel it's a wide-angle lens.
Crazy they would print such an image, my guess is they has nothing better.
I just don't understand the use of a wide angle for a portrait. It would not be my choice and I donít think we are used to seeing it.
Hurts my eyes.


I've used WA for portraits, never had it look like this. I'm guessing the room was very small. Definitely a forced perspective illusion going on here....
05/06/2021 09:35:05 AM · #16
I've yet to see this mentioned anywhere but take a good look at the chairs the Carters are in - they are incredibly low to the ground. Joe's knee is above the armrest as is Jimmy's!! Look at the height of the chair/bench seat on the right edge of the photo in comparison. I'd say the Carters' butts are no more than 12-14" off the ground. So add that to the perspective distortion and you've got a mess on your hands.

Message edited by author 2021-05-06 09:35:31.
05/06/2021 10:12:51 AM · #17
Why is there an open cabinet door behind Joe?
No one thought to close it?

That bothers me more than the distortion.
05/06/2021 11:06:37 AM · #18
I think it is a combination of the distortion and the height difference. Even if you warp the image back into "normality" the Carters look tiny (like many real old people do).
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05/06/2021 11:18:12 AM · #19
Originally posted by Venser:

Why is there an open cabinet door behind Joe?
No one thought to close it?

That bothers me more than the distortion.


I've made that observation elsewhere. There's no way Joe would fit in Mrs Carter's seat. Even Mrs Biden seems to tower over Jimmy's chair. And she's pretty petite. Finally, even though people shrink as they age, this is a whole other magnitude of hobbitry.
05/06/2021 11:35:01 AM · #20
It's in the math folks. OK, Joe is 6 foot tall, as am I. From my heel to my knee is 21 1/2" and Joe's legs look longer so I'll give him 23" from heel to knee. His leg and the arm of Jimmy's chair are about the same place in the frame so I replicate the 23" line, move it to the left and see that it's about 4" above the arm of the chair, which makes that arm ~19" high. Roselyn's would have to be the same, which means the bottom of the cushion sits just 10" off the ground. With the seat sloping back that puts the Carter's butts at no better than 11" off the ground. The back of the chairs are AT BEST 34-36" high, which is clear when the 5ft 6in Jill's shoulders are about 6" higher than it with her on her knees.

It's like doll house furniture.

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05/06/2021 03:28:11 PM · #21
It's certainly not an image I would be proud of taking, nor is it one I would publish if I were one of the people in it.
05/06/2021 08:42:54 PM · #22
I reckon itís fake, because they donít have masks on.
05/07/2021 08:46:27 AM · #23
Originally posted by Neat:

I reckon itís fake, because they donít have masks on.

They are all vaccinated, so they are allowed to have masks off. It is a real shot.
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