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03/28/2021 11:16:48 AM · #1
Are borders with drop down shadows allowed in Standard Editing?
03/28/2021 06:32:17 PM · #2
I don't know, but may I add, are break-out borders allowed in standard editing?
03/28/2021 07:17:53 PM · #3
I recall borders were not allowed, or at least frowned upon many years ago. I got nailed more than once because I added a simple border to enhance the presentation of an image. Good question. I'd call it ok, myself. It does not change the content or meaning of the image itself.
03/28/2021 07:28:17 PM · #4
It was my thought that borders were allowed as long as they were obviously borders. But Spiff's right -- people had a tendency to hit them hard. But that was in the day of the 50 and 100 vote check ins. :)
03/28/2021 09:17:41 PM · #5
I was thinking about this for the Diptych challenge. Seems like artistic borders should be allowed in this one.
03/29/2021 12:19:57 AM · #6
Originally posted by vawendy:

It was my thought that borders were allowed as long as they were obviously borders. But Spiff's right -- people had a tendency to hit them hard. But that was in the day of the 50 and 100 vote check ins. :)


I've checked the rules for various challenge editing sets and only find two references to borders.

Common Editing
You may not ...
- add graphics or clip art images to your entry or its border during editing.

Minimal Editing
You may not ...
- add a border to your image

I'm comfortable in saying that a simple border is definitely allowed (except for Minimal Editing).

I've been trying to find prior examples of unique borders being discussed and have not had much luck.

My gut reaction is a border with a simple drop shadow is probably ok, but if you want a firm(er) answer use the Help menu and ask a question to SC directly and that will generate a ticket and conversation with a direct response.

03/29/2021 05:59:04 PM · #7
Thanks Barry,
I brought the subject up in the forums for everyone's benefit. I will assume that borders are OK.
03/29/2021 10:08:24 PM · #8
We've been VERY liberal with borders over the past5-6 years, I can't think offhand of a border-DQ in that time except in minimal. We used to fuss about whether the borders you can get out of the plug-ins like NIK and Topaz (with the jagged edges, fake light leaks, and so forth) qualified as "clip art" but decided that since they were wildly customizable within the app, that made no sense and anyway, who cares? Let the voters decide if it works or not.

As far as I can tell, one of the original issues might have been that people wanted to use rococo gold ornate frames, like for Old Masters, fake wood frames, photo-realistic stuff, and that's why the limits were put into the rule. But as long as I've been here that has not seemed to be an issue.

We'd revisit that if people started Sper-Framing their submissions en masse :-)
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