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01/06/2021 10:19:08 AM · #1
How do you cancel a given score or change it to 0?
01/06/2021 10:22:41 AM · #2
I don't believe it's possible to cancel a given score during voting. If you've not yet reached 20% of voting on all entries, and stop voting, then your vote won't be included at rollover. Otherwise, it's in there. Maybe SC has super power to cancel all votes for a user upon request (but I really doubt it).
01/06/2021 10:23:23 AM · #3
There is no zero vote -- the scale goes from 1-10.

I know when you've completed voting you can see a page with thumbnails sorted by vote-given, and you can click there to change your vote. I can't remember if you can get to that page before voting on all images.

I think you can also scroll through all the images again and change your vote or comment when you come to the one you want.
01/06/2021 10:47:16 AM · #4
Pretty sure he's asking how to cancel a vote once given.
Let's say you no longer want to vote on a particular image after the fact.

I believe the answer is it's not possible.

Message edited by author 2021-01-06 10:47:29.
01/06/2021 10:49:29 AM · #5
Originally posted by GeneralE:

There is no zero vote -- the scale goes from 1-10.

I know when you've completed voting you can see a page with thumbnails sorted by vote-given, and you can click there to change your vote. I can't remember if you can get to that page before voting on all images.

I think you can also scroll through all the images again and change your vote or comment when you come to the one you want.

You cannot 'vote' or change a vote from the thumbnail view. The thumbnail view groups the images by the vote you've given, for example all images you've given an 8 will be in one section, all given a 7, and so on. Listed from top to bottom, highest to lowest.

To change a vote after you've completed voting you still have to open the image to select the new score you want to apply. It cannot be done directly from the thumbnails without clicking on the thumbnail image to see it full size.

If you have only voted on a few images in a challenge, and come back to it, the images you have NOT voted on will be at the top of the thumbnail view, followed by the image thumbnails you've already voted on (grouped by vote given as mentioned above).

You can also comment on any thumbnail image two different ways from the thumbnail page; you can select the white paper icon which will load the image in a separate window and you leave a comment (no voting here), or you can open the image normally by clicking on the thumbnail image and then entering a comment as normal.
01/06/2021 10:57:25 AM · #6
Originally posted by Venser:

Pretty sure he's asking how to cancel a vote once given.
Let's say you no longer want to vote on a particular image after the fact.

I believe the answer is it's not possible.

Thanks Venser...you understood the essence of my question. So as I thought it is not possible. Yes you can change your vote from say a 7 to a lower or higher vote but you cannot reset it to no score. So if you gave a 1 for instance and want to cancel it
you cannot...you can only give a higher score or leave it at 1.
01/06/2021 11:04:02 AM · #7
Originally posted by ThingFish:

Originally posted by Venser:

Pretty sure he's asking how to cancel a vote once given.
Let's say you no longer want to vote on a particular image after the fact.

I believe the answer is it's not possible.

Thanks Venser...you understood the essence of my question. So as I thought it is not possible. Yes you can change your vote from say a 7 to a lower or higher vote but you cannot reset it to no score. So if you gave a 1 for instance and want to cancel it
you cannot...you can only give a higher score or leave it at 1.

... or, like I mentioned below, if you haven't voted on 20% of the entries, you can stop voting for that challenge (obviously not the desired option) and your vote will not count..
01/06/2021 11:06:00 AM · #8
If you really want to give it a '0' you still can. :-) Use the keyboard voting method. Please give all of mine a '0' that way. :-D
01/06/2021 11:15:43 AM · #9
If you want to effectively cancel a vote and know the member, you can wait until nearly the end of voting and then change it to as close to their average on the image as possible.
01/06/2021 11:39:14 AM · #10
Originally posted by nam:

If you want to effectively cancel a vote and know the member, you can wait until nearly the end of voting and then change it to as close to their average on the image as possible.


No I don't want to do anything like it at all...it was just a question as the issue came up inmy head and I was wondering about it...that's all...I only give 9's and 10's anyways...hahahha harharhahahahahahah

Message edited by author 2021-01-06 12:38:08.
01/06/2021 12:38:33 PM · #11
If I changed my mind about casting a vote on an image, I think I'd vote either a 5 or 6 on it. With 5.5 the actual, middle-of-the-road "meh..." vote, then I'd decide whether I wanted to lean to the positive or negative side of "meh..." to be as innocuous as possible.
01/06/2021 12:40:40 PM · #12
Originally posted by nam:

If you want to effectively cancel a vote and know the member, you can wait until nearly the end of voting and then change it to as close to their average on the image as possible.

Yeah, but theoretically, voting and entry are anonymous, so unless you're either sharp or lucky, what're the odds that you'll be able to get that average?
01/06/2021 01:23:25 PM · #13
Originally posted by glad2badad:

If you really want to give it a '0' you still can. :-) Use the keyboard voting method. Please give all of mine a '0' that way. :-D


OK I will
01/06/2021 01:39:31 PM · #14
Originally posted by NikonJeb:

Originally posted by nam:

If you want to effectively cancel a vote and know the member, you can wait until nearly the end of voting and then change it to as close to their average on the image as possible.

Yeah, but theoretically, voting and entry are anonymous, so unless you're either sharp or lucky, what're the odds that you'll be able to get that average?


Well, the only reason I've ever wanted to do this was in the case of having accidentally voted on an entry on which I had offered an opinion pre-voting. And I simply let the person know that I'd goofed and asked them to let me know how the entry was doing. It's very imperfect and of course the best one can do is roughly approximate and also try to be honest with him or herself.
01/06/2021 02:05:17 PM · #15
Fred you gave me a 10 so please do not change it since it's a rare bird!
(and thanks for the 10 in Greetings)
01/06/2021 04:41:28 PM · #16
Originally posted by mariuca:

Fred you gave me a 10 so please do not change it since it's a rare bird!
(and thanks for the 10 in Greetings)


Open Challenge Thingie on Thingie (Dec. 23rd 2020 - Jan. 5th 2021) Challenge Details: Put a thingie on the same thingie, like red on red, paper on paper, shoe on shoe, like on like basically. There's leeway here. It's up to the voters :-)
Rules: Standard Editing
Submissions: 42
Voting Deadline: Jan. 12th 2021
Details: Put a thingie on the same thingie, like red on red, paper on paper, shoe on shoe, like on like basically. There's leeway here. It's up to the voters :-)
Extra Rules: Extra rules apply to this challenge Everyone has thingies around. So this is NOT an archival challenge! Put your thingies on your thingies in the next two weeks..
Stats: You have rated 41 of 41 images (100%) in this challenge.
You have commented on 40 images (95%) in this challenge.
You have given an average score of 9.9024.

Message edited by author 2021-01-06 16:45:31.
01/06/2021 05:07:36 PM · #17
Originally posted by glad2badad:

There is no zero vote -- the scale goes from 1-10.
You cannot 'vote' or change a vote from the thumbnail view. The thumbnail view groups the images by the vote you've given, for example all images you've given an 8 will be in one section, all given a 7, and so on. Listed from top to bottom, highest to lowest.


In my experience, voting from the thumbnail page is not possible indeed, but changing a vote given earlier seems possible...
01/06/2021 05:53:20 PM · #18
Originally posted by Janja:

Originally posted by glad2badad:

There is no zero vote -- the scale goes from 1-10.
You cannot 'vote' or change a vote from the thumbnail view. The thumbnail view groups the images by the vote you've given, for example all images you've given an 8 will be in one section, all given a 7, and so on. Listed from top to bottom, highest to lowest.


In my experience, voting from the thumbnail page is not possible indeed, but changing a vote given earlier seems possible...

Yes, you are correct, you can change votes from the thumbnail page after you've voted on an image. Sorry. Forgot about that.
01/06/2021 06:15:49 PM · #19
Is there an over all set of (for lack of a better word) criteria for the number you give a image.
How do you rate? I have a set of questions I ask when I look at images, sometimes I wonder if this is a fair critique.
Is it fair to give a high number to a poorly taken image or to photoshop editing and over look a quality image with little editing.
01/06/2021 06:16:03 PM · #20
Is there an over all set of (for lack of a better word) criteria for the number you give a image.
How do you rate? I have a set of questions I ask when I look at i

Message edited by author 2021-01-06 18:29:21.
01/06/2021 07:44:01 PM · #21
To recap:

You may change your vote anytime before voting ends. (click on the image and then click on your new vote number)

You may not cancel your vote.

If you've voted less than 20% of the entries, your vote will be "scrubbed"... taken out of the final tally.

If you use the 0 key to vote by the keypad, you're giving that image a score of 10.

01/06/2021 08:36:39 PM · #22
Originally posted by Barroness:

Is there an over all set of (for lack of a better word) criteria for the number you give a image.
How do you rate? I have a set of questions I ask when I look at images, sometimes I wonder if this is a fair critique.
Is it fair to give a high number to a poorly taken image or to photoshop editing and over look a quality image with little editing.


That's the holy grail of questions. :-)

There are probably a dozen or more forum threads discussing it and a tutorial (here) too. Enjoy!
01/07/2021 07:31:00 AM · #23
Originally posted by Barroness:

Is there an over all set of (for lack of a better word) criteria for the number you give a image.
How do you rate? I have a set of questions I ask when I look at images, sometimes I wonder if this is a fair critique.
Is it fair to give a high number to a poorly taken image or to photoshop editing and over look a quality image with little editing.

Yep!

If you search the forums, you'll find no less than 142,552,778,956,895,987,323 people who will tell you exactly how it's done.

Each. One. Different.
01/07/2021 09:22:07 PM · #24

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Since there are no guide lines that are specific, i ask myself some general questions.
1) Does the image meet the challenge?
2) Clarity - How in focus is it, intentionally or mistakenly and also is point of view coming across to the viewer.
3) Processing, Good/Poor - Over/Under
4) Would I hang it in my house? (This is a determining factor for the very best all around images)
5) keeping an open mind. When I have an image in a challenge I try to vote right away so I am not bias due to my good or bad score.
6) I try be fair, I go back to adjust scoring after I complete my scores. I want the best ones to win, someone worked hard for a great image.
if I feel the image is vile or indiscreet I don't vote on it, this has only happened once or twice.

Some images meet the challenge and thats about it, others meet the challenge from a different point of view but are beautiful and interesting. I look for what I think the intention is, processing tells a lot about the intention of a good image.
i always keep in mind no one in the 5 range is going to make top 10 for the most part.

I try to remember that everyone works hard on their images and wants to share them and be part of this group of photographers, either technically or artistically and quite often both.
This is just something i do for me, certainly not parameters for all.

Thank you for your answers.
I found above from a thread in 2015. It surprised me because I still agree with it for me. Itís my take on how we were taught at ICP where I took photo journalist classes.
I asked again because sometimes I miss. I grade the first or second time I review each image on each challenge but sometimes after the voting is in I look back and I say to myself how did I miss that, its really good but I missed how really good it is during voting. I am trying so hard to avoid that because I feel guilty for not voting an images worth. I guess this is still and always will be the other side of the challange that is more of a challenge than the challenge itself.
01/07/2021 09:26:26 PM · #25
Sorry all my posts are going on twice and Iím not sure why
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