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11/03/2004 12:37:30 AM · #1
Hello,

I'm new to dpchallenge, so hello all! I've been slowly getting more and more into digital photography as one of my newest expensive hobbies, and I've decided that I'll be getting a D-SLR ASAP. After reading about stuff I have pretty much convinced myself I'll be ending up with a Canon 20D sometime in the next month or two. My photography background isn't huge, especially coming from a Coolpix 3100, but I like getting things I can grow into. Anyway, the 300D's lack of exposure compensation I think would annoy me. I was ready to do a Nikon D70 for a while there, but after speaking with some other people, I'm gathering the glass availability is a little more varied on the Canon end of things. Feel free to comment on that part. :)

Anyway, where I'm going with this is the kit glass. Since I'm not fully knowledgable with photography, especially in the SLR arena, I'm not solid on what makes a lens good. My inclination was to just get the kit glass as a start and go from there. But if the kit glass has some well known significant shortcomings, I'll consider getting something else and just the body. But I also need to consider cost, since I'll already be spending quite a bit more on the camera then I had originally thought. So...if I go with other then the kit glass, what are some recommendations and what am I looking at cost-wise to get something that will be noticibly(remembering I'm somewhat new to this arena) better?

Thank you,
Jason
11/03/2004 12:55:05 AM · #2
I think both Nikon and Canon have a good selection of lenses. Since you don't have a collection of lense I would go to a local camera store and handle both the Nikon and Canon cameras. The one that feels the most comfortable for you should be the one you get.

BTW, the DRebel does have exposure compensation. It doesn't have flash exposure compensation (unless you use the hack for the firmware - which voids the warranty). What annoys me about the DRebel, and why I went with the 10D, is the lack of choice of focus and exposure metering modes. These are automatic on the DRebel.

I suggest doing a side by side comparison at //www.dpreview.com of the DRebel, 20D and Nikon D70 to see the similarities and differences and go to a store and handle them.

Colette
11/03/2004 01:10:12 AM · #3
Thank you for the suggestions. I'm planning on hitting the stores tomorrow to try and manhandle some of the cameras.

I've already done the side by side at dpreview. Right now the tipping factor between the D70 and 20D is the cost of lenses. Other discussions and people who have been into photography far longer then me I've talked to suggest that there's effectively no mid range cost-wise on the Nikon, there's just cheap and ultra-expensive. So while I have no doubt there are comparable lenses all along the lines as far as capabilities go, people have been telling me that there isn't as much spread in the cost. Given that, the wisdom seems to be to invest a little more in the body upfront now and give myself more options in the glass later on.

Thank you for the advice!
11/03/2004 01:15:20 AM · #4
Originally posted by cpanaioti:

BTW, the DRebel does have exposure compensation. It doesn't have flash exposure compensation (unless you use the hack for the firmware - which voids the warranty). What annoys me about the DRebel, and why I went with the 10D, is the lack of choice of focus and exposure metering modes. These are automatic on the DRebel.
Colette


I like the 300D with the newest hack, which provides a nice 10D without the price; and the 300D's kit lens is a nice (and cheap) starting point for a lens that is made specifically for Canon digital; also, it seems to produce some great, sharp, and bright images. Then with all the money you save, buy mores lenses! (stupid me, I didn't get the kit lens)

btw: Canon has been honoring their warranty even with the hack loaded and sent in with the camera (maybe not always, but since I have read good reports and haven't seen a bad one yet, then I feel safe enough).
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