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11/02/2004 05:04:54 PM · #1
Ok, the title of your submission should be the month the photo would represent. Fair enough.

Obviously, well I imagine so, we'll get a lot of November type photos. Fair enough.

Typical, as this is a Northern hemisphere dominated site, idea of November is beautiful autumn/fall trees, with their amazing coloured leaves, stuff like that. Basically starting to have a colder feel to them.

I go out and take, for instance, an image of kids playing on the beach ... as here in Australia we are in beach-mode.

Dilema:

1) Beach shot called "November". For Aussies it looks just right. For most of the world an image like that would never say November.

2) Cater for the Northerners, same photo, call it "July". Cop out, and doubtless some will question it's authticity, but not request the DQ, just vote down.

Southern types will, obviously, see an autumn/fall photo and although here is spring, recognise that as a November. But I doubt northern types would recognise our spring conditions as a November.

Not a whine here at all .... just a pondering I guess on what way I would name a photo if it were a beach (which it isn't as I haven't even taken anything yet :)

11/02/2004 05:11:52 PM · #2
Seems stupid to me to do a calendar shot for a weekly challenge!

What chance do we have,

Us up here doing November misty, frosty pics.

You down there down there doing, sunny beach, barbie shots!

Gonna take a bucket of sand with snow on it shot!
11/02/2004 05:16:39 PM · #3
Originally posted by Natator:

Ok, the title of your submission should be the month the photo would represent. Fair enough.

Obviously, well I imagine so, we'll get a lot of November type photos. Fair enough.

Typical, as this is a Northern hemisphere dominated site, idea of November is beautiful autumn/fall trees, with their amazing coloured leaves, stuff like that. Basically starting to have a colder feel to them.

I go out and take, for instance, an image of kids playing on the beach ... as here in Australia we are in beach-mode.

Dilema:

1) Beach shot called "November". For Aussies it looks just right. For most of the world an image like that would never say November.

2) Cater for the Northerners, same photo, call it "July". Cop out, and doubtless some will question it's authticity, but not request the DQ, just vote down.

Southern types will, obviously, see an autumn/fall photo and although here is spring, recognise that as a November. But I doubt northern types would recognise our spring conditions as a November.

Not a whine here at all .... just a pondering I guess on what way I would name a photo if it were a beach (which it isn't as I haven't even taken anything yet :)


I wondered about that myself. Being an international site, there will be many instances that people will think "doesn't meet challenge" and forget about this.

Edit: I assume there are also month-tied holidays that some countries or cultures have that aren't universal, but we aren't always aware of these sometimes.

Message edited by author 2004-11-02 17:18:08.
11/02/2004 05:17:21 PM · #4
Well, if you're gonna take a beach shot, I think it ought to be titled "July", simply because a beach shot represents summer.
11/02/2004 05:18:01 PM · #5
Girl in bikini, sitting under a palm tree, in the snow.

Perfect shot to confuze everyone :)
11/02/2004 05:18:40 PM · #6
Hahha ! Great idea
11/02/2004 05:18:46 PM · #7
Originally posted by tyt2000:

Well, if you're gonna take a beach shot, I think it ought to be titled "July", simply because a beach shot represents summer.


But summer can be another month in other parts of the wrold.
11/02/2004 05:19:10 PM · #8
Would a title like "November Down Under" be OK? I would understand the photo meeting the challenge better.
11/02/2004 05:20:14 PM · #9
But summer in Australia is in December! That's the whole dilema he has... our summer is July, his is December, should he title it July or December? Both are correct, but one represents the northern hemisphere, the other the southern. Maybe he can title it: Australian Summer: Decemeber :-)

-danny

Originally posted by tyt2000:

Well, if you're gonna take a beach shot, I think it ought to be titled "July", simply because a beach shot represents summer.
11/02/2004 05:22:42 PM · #10
Originally posted by tyt2000:

Well, if you're gonna take a beach shot, I think it ought to be titled "July", simply because a beach shot represents summer.


No, that is precisely the point here (that is not meant to sound attacking at all by the way)

For you July equates to Summer. For me July equates to cold, December equates to summer, beaches, surf etc etc etc.

You'd see (well, maybe not you personally, but you get my drift) a beach and mark down, even if subconsciously, as person on a beach is not November to you ... but it is to anyone in the right climate.... and certainly right for where the photo was taken.

The reverse is true, if you were actually printing up a calendar here in Australia and put the beach type shots in July people would think you were a looney.

Just as well it is not July now as all the people in Iceland would be stuffed .... does it ever get warm enough there to be able to show summer ;)

Edit: My reply there was obviously being typed at exactly the same time as the last few *laugh*

I think the way round it might indeed be a tiny cheat on the title, like "November Down Under", as suggested.

Message edited by author 2004-11-02 17:26:05.
11/02/2004 05:23:52 PM · #11
i think most pictures would work for this because there are so many different types of calendars....no?
11/02/2004 05:26:20 PM · #12
I know it sorta bites, but people from the southern hemisphere are probably going to see their calendar shots score better if they follow the season cycle of the northern hemisphere. The largest pool of members comes from the northern hemisphere. If you want to score well (with all other variabels taken out of the equation) dont't submit a sunny outdoor shot with flowers blooming for February.

Or better yet, shoot a subject (pets, cars, people, etc) that have no direct reference to a season.
11/02/2004 05:27:52 PM · #13
i know i'll assume the person posting is representing the correct month in their time zone...
11/02/2004 05:28:07 PM · #14
Put the title e.g 'November' then represent the hemasphere by adding simply a (S) or (N) e.g 'November(S)' could be a summer shot whereas 'November(N) could be the fall.

I spent Xmas day in NZ one year in shorts in a boat just off the coast of whitianga didnt seem like xmas at all.
11/02/2004 05:40:36 PM · #15
Just call it November in Australia. That way everybody gets it.
11/02/2004 06:03:27 PM · #16
The question really is, does the title have to be ONLY the month name? Or can we add words? I guess it's up to the voters, but what do you think?

Realistically, when you look at a calendar's monthly photo, there is some context surrounding the image, such as the theme of the calendar and the hemisphere (northern/southern) it's intended for.
11/02/2004 06:14:10 PM · #17
I know that, i'm just saying that you may want to title it "July" because most people on DPC don't live in your part of the world :)
11/02/2004 06:46:04 PM · #18
Then, there are those of us who live in the Northern Hemisphere who wouldn't know where to find a bucket of snow if we needed one.

In my part of California in winter, (unless it's raining) the palm trees bask in the sun.

So, what the heck tell it like it is.
11/02/2004 06:49:50 PM · #19
Well especially since there are calendars of about anything... cars, bikes, chicks, food...

This is as much a challenge to vote on...
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11/02/2004 07:04:21 PM · #20
Originally posted by RedOak:

Well especially since there are calendars of about anything... cars, bikes, chicks, food...

This is as much a challenge to vote on...
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There may be different types of calanders, BUT thats not the challenge here. The challenge here is to represent a MONTH. For example, you can do "May Flowers" or "Spooky October", etc. do you understand what I mean?

Just taking a photo of a car and titling it a month wouldnt fit the description in my opinion.
11/02/2004 07:05:01 PM · #21
Originally posted by dartompkins:

Just call it November in Australia. That way everybody gets it.

Edit. Scratch that...started this before dinner...just finished but the thread has evolved...

Message edited by author 2004-11-02 19:06:02.
11/02/2004 10:34:45 PM · #22
Originally posted by jmlelii:

Originally posted by RedOak:

Well especially since there are calendars of about anything... cars, bikes, chicks, food...

This is as much a challenge to vote on...
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There may be different types of calanders, BUT thats not the challenge here. The challenge here is to represent a MONTH. For example, you can do "May Flowers" or "Spooky October", etc. do you understand what I mean?

Just taking a photo of a car and titling it a month wouldnt fit the description in my opinion.


Actually, going back and reading the description AGAIN:

Your challenge is to take a picture that would look good in a yearly calendar. Your photo title should be the month to which your photo belongs.

It just says it has to look good in a yearly calendar. It doesn't say it has to symbolize the month. The second line might suggest that, though, but for example, as long as you stay within seasonal activities or attire, it should be ok.

On the other hand, the voters always get the last word, no matter what is "correct".
11/02/2004 11:13:18 PM · #23
I had thought of the southern hemisphere issue and wondered what the thinking was going to be. I'm leaning more toward the "calendars are about anything" camp and think that since it is warm in November in the S. Hemisphere, then it should be ok to use a pic of a beach, etc for November. If I was travelling to a warm place during this challenge, my picture would most likely be of that place with the title, e.g. Warm Place in November (or whatever month I chose for it).
So, the same could be true of a picture taken of a cold place in the Northern hemisphere - it could be called Cold Place in July (or whatever month I chose for it) and it could be appropriate for a calender in the southern hemisphere and fit the challenge here.
Can't we just adjust our thinking re: seasons and vote accordingly?

I'm sure there are a lot of folks who would tend toward submitting a harvest-kind of picture or pictures of a big turkey dinner and gathering for October and November, because these are traditional and usual pictures for this time of year in the U.S. But, a turkey dinner may mean very little regarding November if you are not from the U.S.A.

I love the way these challenges bring up these international issues and make us think!

stevie
11/02/2004 11:16:57 PM · #24
And the shot doesn't have to be taken outdoors.
Think outside the "monthly"box.
11/02/2004 11:21:14 PM · #25
My problem is with culture! i don't know and do not expect for people to know the portugues culture but i think i'll try and see what happens! :)
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