Minimal challenge - where'd they go?

11/15/2019 09:59:18 AM · #1

I see 4 Extended Editing challenges (in submission or voting) on the front page - and zero Minimal Editing challenges. ???

11/15/2019 10:06:43 AM · #2

Oh ... and I forgot to add a smiley. :-)

Fujifilm XF 10-24mm f/4 R IOS

11/15/2019 10:49:35 AM · #3

So you're saying we're overextended, eh? This seems to be true, although to be fair, two of those you mention are the monthly Extended FS... Got any good fresh minimal ideas?

markwiley

Fujifilm X-Pro2

11/15/2019 03:10:09 PM · #4

Where�d they go?
Take a picture in which something is missing. Title your entry �Where�d (insert preferred pronoun) go?�
Minimal editing

Canon 12x IS USM (S3 IS built-in Lens) -- 36-432mm (35mm EQ)

11/15/2019 03:39:11 PM · #5

Yee Haw! I like that one!

GeneralE

Canon PowerShot S3 IS

11/15/2019 04:10:24 PM · #6

Originally posted by markwiley:

Where�d they go?
Take a picture in which something is missing. Title your entry �Where�d (insert preferred pronoun) go?�
Minimal editing

If the description is going to be "something" missing rather than specifically "someone" I suggest the second specification be

*Title your entry "Where'd (insert missing subject) go?*

Also make clear whether or not that's a DQable rule ...

Pentax DA 18-135mm F3.5-5.6ED AL [IF] WR DC

11/15/2019 05:30:27 PM · #7

11/15/2019 05:32:20 PM · #8

11/15/2019 05:34:40 PM · #9

Originally posted by Bear_Music:

Yee Haw! I like that one!

I like it too. It should be in a Challenge Suggestion thread IMO. I disagree with making the title a DQ'able item.

Also put up a couple of others that could work as well (see linked in previous two posts).

tnun

Ricoh GR III

11/15/2019 05:40:58 PM · #10

I like the shoes one.

GeneralE

Canon PowerShot S3 IS

Canon 12x IS USM (S3 IS built-in Lens) -- 36-432mm (35mm EQ)

11/15/2019 06:00:41 PM · #11

Originally posted by glad2badad:

Originally posted by Bear_Music:
Yee Haw! I like that one!

I like it too. It should be in a Challenge Suggestion thread IMO.

Uh, look at the title of this thread. ;-)

I agree, titles should not be a DQable item, but either way it should be made clear.

Cory

Canon EOS-1D Mark IV

Canon EF 85mm f/1.2L II USM

11/15/2019 06:17:13 PM · #12

I'm trying to maintain a no kvetching about DPC policy, but...

I want it to be clearly known that I adore minimal challenges and would love more of them.

Elaine

Canon EOS R5

Canon EF 24-105mm f/4L IS II USM Lens

11/18/2019 03:29:25 PM · #13

I just read the Minimal rule set. Is it acceptable to use any function of the camera / phone as long as it is selected before the photo is taken?

Lydia

Canon EOS-6D

Canon EF 100mm f/2.8L Macro IS USM

11/18/2019 03:48:48 PM · #14

Minimal and still no cropping... *heavy sigh*

Cory

Canon EOS-1D Mark IV

Canon EF 85mm f/1.2L II USM

11/18/2019 04:29:29 PM · #15

Originally posted by Lydia:

Minimal and still no cropping... *heavy sigh*

I really don't get the point of that idea.

Get it right in camera. Crop with your feet, level the horizon, etc.

That's the whole reason minimal is attractive.

11/18/2019 09:47:21 PM · #16

Originally posted by Elaine:

I just read the Minimal rule set. Is it acceptable to use any function of the camera / phone as long as it is selected before the photo is taken?

That, in a nutshell, is why "minimal editing" is problematical for us :-( So many phonecams and p&s cams have modes and features that can't be emulated by higher-end, "pro" cameras except in post. We hope that people will follow the spirit of the thing and pretend they are shooting Kodachrome slides back in the day. If we get to a point where that's not happening, we'll probably have to get rid of the ruleset :-(

Pentax DA 18-135mm F3.5-5.6ED AL [IF] WR DC

11/18/2019 09:48:42 PM · #17

Originally posted by Lydia:

Minimal and still no cropping... *heavy sigh*

There's NO reason for this particular challenge to allow cropping and rotating. We do that when a Minimal challenge also mandates shooting "on the fly", like for action photography. The rest of the time, just get it right in-camera :-)

tnun

Ricoh GR III

11/18/2019 11:03:34 PM · #18

Originally posted by Cory:

Originally posted by Lydia:
Minimal and still no cropping... *heavy sigh*

I really don't get the point of that idea.

Get it right in camera. Crop with your feet, level the horizon, etc.

That's the whole reason minimal is attractive.

Yes. And the camera's preset options should be acceptable, being secondary to the main grab. I'll not weep for those limited to higher end cameras.

RamblinR

Olympus OM-D E-M1 Mark III

Olympus 12-40mm f/2.8 Pro

11/18/2019 11:48:39 PM · #19

I hate minimal.
I shoot RAW so I can never enter it and no, I'm not going to start shooting JPG.

MargaretNet

Apple iPhone 15 Pro

Sony FE 24-105mm F4 G OSS

11/19/2019 12:02:20 AM · #20

Originally posted by Cory:

Get it right in camera.

I am trying to understand why would you need to do it these days when we have so many wonderful tools for post-processing and "pre-processing" in the camera! My thinking is:

1. the photo you take is a document - it must be therefore a true representation of reality, very important for war corespondents or nature photographers (although I suspect they are allowed to improve contrast and crop, and possibly do some other basic editing)

2. each photo costs money - it was true in the days of film, both for the materials and time spent in the darkroom correcting errors or retouching by hand (the old-fashioned way of post-processing)

3. educational tool - it is a great idea to learn the controls of your camera, pay attention to what you see in the frame, light direction, and so on (most DPCers already know that but it is good for beginners)

4. you prefer to shoot rather than edit - it is a big effort to learn to use Photoshop or any other post-processing software well and some people don't like spending their time on computers

Any other reasons?

MargaretNet

Apple iPhone 15 Pro

Sony FE 24-105mm F4 G OSS

11/19/2019 12:05:57 AM · #21

Originally posted by Bear_Music:

If we get to a point where that's not happening, we'll probably have to get rid of the ruleset :-(

Great idea! :)
My husband just replaced his Iphone 6 with Iphone 11 Pro, I will borrow it from him and see what it can do for this latest Minimal! ;)

Sony FE 24-105mm F4 G OSS

11/19/2019 12:36:03 AM · #22

Originally posted by marnet:

Originally posted by Cory:
Get it right in camera.

I am trying to understand why would you need to do it these days when we have so many wonderful tools for post-processing and "pre-processing" in the camera!

Margaret, it's just that it's a "CHALLENGE" :-) Enough people like it that we keep doing it. This is also directed at all of you folks out there who "hate minimal". They don't come along that often. We clearly have a segment of the community that loves them. That should be sufficient unto the day, wouldn't you think?

MargaretNet

Apple iPhone 15 Pro

11/19/2019 02:15:39 AM · #23

OK, Bear, I can see your point. I just wish there was a balanced view on this issue.