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06/16/2019 10:21:41 PM · #26
Originally posted by GeneralE:

Originally posted by jomari:

What about alternate archival and current monthly Extended Free Studies?

The key to making something a challenge is not knowing in advance of posting what the topic or rule-set will be.* I can see having a challenge (of any type) being declared open for archival submissions on occasion, but I don't think they should be on any kind of fixed schedule.

*FYI SC members don't know in advance which challenge will be posted at rollover either.


Extended Free Studies havent changed their topic over the time...so most people know it is coming and plan for it. Archival makes use of ALL those extra images that we all take and are just sitting their taking up room. My as well use them plus it would be really interesting to see what people come up with!
06/17/2019 01:01:04 AM · #27
And THIS is why archival extended editing would be fantastic. The creativity within people over a long period of time, to think, plan, capture and execute the art piece. This sight is about Art....let's rejoice it!!

06/17/2019 02:08:51 AM · #28
Free Studies don't have topics!! We all can plan in advance but only one month in advance.

And +god-zillion to gyaban being able to do his last year's birthday's outstanding creation.

PS Alternating has not worked very well for Minimal challenges (crop vs no crop) so I would prefer to make all Extended FSs Archival for ease of administration

PS2 I was just thinking that currently I only look through all images from last month and try to think what to do with them. Archival could finally allow me to try to have a vision first, see what I can find in my current images and then finish off taking new ones if needed. I could incorporate images from Australia or from the seaside as both are now too far away for me. That would be nice! :)

Message edited by author 2019-06-17 05:10:27.
06/17/2019 10:48:21 PM · #29
If we make it always archival, then we don’t just have a month. We have forever.

So, it’s not a monthly Free Study at all.

06/18/2019 12:42:37 AM · #30
There are three new challenges announced each week (Monday, Wednesday and Friday for me in Australia)
There a two monthly challenges - Freestudy and Extended Free Study
That's a total of 14 challenges per month.
Currently all challenges have a timeframe for shooting unless it is announced to be Archival.

I hadn't thought it would be too demanding to allow 12 challenges out of 168 challenges for the year to be always archival.
Or just 6 if it was every second month which would be fine.

Am I missing something on why this is a bad thing?
Enlighten me as to why so I can understand a different position on the suggestion.

I don't see anybody being disadvantaged by the change. On the contrary, I would think it would be helpful to everyone as some images used are places they would never visit again or items they would never see again.
I also think that as members progress in creating composite images they would start shooting things to add to their library for the future.
Shooting things they would normally not be interested to shoot but now realise it can be used to create something extraordinary that they see in their mind, one part of the bigger picture.
I honestly think that creative composite work is something that you learn as you progress.
At the beginning you can't see anything creative but as you progress and start to put things together your mind opens up to the possibilities and your creativity expands.
Rather exciting I feel.

I could use my library from everything I have shot digitally in my whole life of shooting (which is roughly only from when I joined DPChallenge) and Gyaban would still beat me hands down shooting in a month or in a two week period.
It's not like I'd have any advantage but it might allow us to add elements to our images that complete the work of art imagined.

QUOTE from Lydia
"If we make it always archival, then we don’t just have a month. We have forever.
So, it’s not a monthly Free Study at all."

Is this a bad thing in the whole scheme of things?
06/18/2019 01:44:53 AM · #31
Originally posted by Lydia:

If we make it always archival, then we don’t just have a month. We have forever.

So, it’s not a monthly Free Study at all.

Show me a file with EXIF taken by a digital camera from 1966? And the voting is still monthly so how is this forever?

I am not sure why you are so much against it? One challenge out of 14 per month has less time restrictions - what's wrong with that? You still have 11 to shoot for in a tighter timeframe.

The membership of this site is now very small, why not try to increase participation?
06/18/2019 02:29:19 PM · #32
Haven't read every post but I don't mind the idea of it because I know I've shot stuff with days of the submission deadline that would work if I just had the time.

Perhaps a limited archive, say 3-6 months for all source images that provide content (ie. not textures) with at least one image being from the last 30 days?

Message edited by author 2019-06-18 14:30:12.
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