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02/01/2019 10:45:09 PM · #1
Can the clarity slider in Lightroom be used for sharpening in the minimal editing rules?
02/02/2019 12:03:04 AM · #2
Originally posted by GolferDDS:

Can the clarity slider in Lightroom be used for sharpening in the minimal editing rules?

NO
03/11/2019 09:42:49 PM · #3
one related and one unrelated minimal editing question

1) is global structure change allowed, in combo with global sharpening?

2) is in-camera HDR allowed, e.g., the camera combines multiple exposures and saves as a single “flattened” image?
p.s. i know this was discussed back in 2017, but not sure if anything changed under the NEWEST minimal rule set

Message edited by author 2019-03-11 21:46:42.
03/11/2019 10:15:55 PM · #4
Originally posted by mefnj:

one related and one unrelated minimal editing question

1) is global structure change allowed, in combo with global sharpening?

2) is in-camera HDR allowed, e.g., the camera combines multiple exposures and saves as a single “flattened” image?
p.s. i know this was discussed back in 2017, but not sure if anything changed under the NEWEST minimal rule set


Dunno 'bout (1), but I believe that for (2), the answer will be "no." The Minimal rules refer to "from a single capture" and in-camera HDR requires multiple captures. I guess it depends on if SC defines "capture" as one image acquisition (I would) or one shutter button press (I would not).
03/12/2019 04:44:05 AM · #5
Originally posted by kirbic:

Originally posted by mefnj:

one related and one unrelated minimal editing question

1) is global structure change allowed, in combo with global sharpening?

2) is in-camera HDR allowed, e.g., the camera combines multiple exposures and saves as a single “flattened” image?
p.s. i know this was discussed back in 2017, but not sure if anything changed under the NEWEST minimal rule set


Dunno 'bout (1), but I believe that for (2), the answer will be "no." The Minimal rules refer to "from a single capture" and in-camera HDR requires multiple captures. I guess it depends on if SC defines "capture" as one image acquisition (I would) or one shutter button press (I would not).

I'd vote yes (if I had a vote), one shutter click, one exif file (regarding the HDR question). Things where you have to make choices after the capture, like in-camera cropping or other adjustments shouldn't be legal.
03/12/2019 11:12:26 AM · #6
Interestingly, most (if not all) in-camera HDR is done from a single exposure, in much the same way as we might combine several versions of the same frame in Photoshop. And as far as I know we have no way of telling this has been done, so that's not any different than adjusting an in-camera parameter for contrast/saturation/etc and should be acceptable.

Regarding "global structure change", that's a big fat NO :-)

Message edited by author 2019-03-12 11:15:45.
03/12/2019 01:25:30 PM · #7
Originally posted by Bear_Music:

Interestingly, most (if not all) in-camera HDR is done from a single exposure, in much the same way as we might combine several versions of the same frame in Photoshop. And as far as I know we have no way of telling this has been done, so that's not any different than adjusting an in-camera parameter for contrast/saturation/etc and should be acceptable.

Regarding "global structure change", that's a big fat NO :-)


thanks for the firm clear answer to #1. i’ll just sit on #2 for a bit... i want to stay in the spirit of the Minimal rules...
03/12/2019 06:15:17 PM · #8
Originally posted by Bear_Music:

Interestingly, most (if not all) in-camera HDR is done from a single exposure...


I thought I had read differently regarding Canon in-camera HDR, and it turns out I was not mistaken. The implementation on Canon DSLRs does use separate exposures, three to be exact. The rendered output is always a JPEG file, though the "originals" can be either RAW or JPEG.
04/06/2020 08:59:44 PM · #9
I've been away from DPChallenge for a long time. I have the same question about in-camera HDR. On a minimal editing challenge is it NOT ALLOWED then?
04/06/2020 09:54:43 PM · #10
Welcome back!

HDR is not allowed in Minimal Editing, but it is under the other rule-sets.

If you've been away a while you should definitely re-read what's now called Standard Editing, as it allows quite a bit more than the old Advanced rules.
04/07/2020 07:26:58 AM · #11
This photo shows the dangers of in-camera HDR.

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Definitely not legal under minimal editing, but I'm not sure it would pass under standard either. When I uploaded it in 2017 the answer was NO. I'm not sure whether that has changed.
04/07/2020 07:51:28 AM · #12
Originally posted by GinaRothfels:

This photo shows the dangers of in-camera HDR.

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Definitely not legal under minimal editing, but I'm not sure it would pass under standard either. When I uploaded it in 2017 the answer was NO. I'm not sure whether that has changed.

The problem with this image is that the scene changed (the models moved) between exposures so that it becomes a composite of two "separate" images rather than just an extension of the tonal range.
04/07/2020 08:33:03 AM · #13
Originally posted by GeneralE:

Originally posted by GinaRothfels:

This photo shows the dangers of in-camera HDR.

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Definitely not legal under minimal editing, but I'm not sure it would pass under standard either. When I uploaded it in 2017 the answer was NO. I'm not sure whether that has changed.

The problem with this image is that the scene changed (the models moved) between exposures so that it becomes a composite of two "separate" images rather than just an extension of the tonal range.


I realise that. It was one press of the shutter though. It shows just how quickly people move unless you ask them to keep totally still - maybe even that wouldn't work. As they were posing for someone else, that wasn't an option anyway.

Clearly in camera HDR is no good for portraits unless you're actually looking for crazy results.
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