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04/23/2018 02:23:04 PM · #1
Hey there,

I just got a new phone (Samsung S9+) and it has all kinds of pre-set effects such as "food" or "panorama". Are these technically the originals in the event of a minimal editing challenge? Or does this do some sort of post capture edit within the phone that I don't know of? Should I just shoot in "auto" and edit in post?

This is the first time I even considered using my phone for a challenge and wanted to know what to expect...

Thanks.
04/23/2018 03:08:14 PM · #2
I use the iphone's in-camera effects on occasion for minimal challenges and I believe they fall within the rules. Not sure if I have gotten through validation yet, however ;P
Copyrighted_Image_Reuse_Prohibited_1161125.jpg this one for example.
I also try to keep in mind how ppl with see these images given the challenge rules - if the effedct was too ocver-the-top, I think it might backfire.
04/23/2018 04:18:32 PM · #3
Unless you are capturing a RAW file every image is processed to some degree by the camera post-capture (WB, sharpening, JPEG compression, etc.).

The main thing for Minimal challenges is whatever settings/features you use should be set before you push the shutter button. Some devices let you take a picture and then process it with various effects -- don't do that.

If the camera phone unit saves valid EXIF data (and you don't mess it up using some wacky transfer software) you should be OK for Minimal challenges.

Message edited by author 2018-04-23 16:19:14.
04/23/2018 04:50:15 PM · #4
What I may do soon is take a test image and send it over to SC and see what they come up with. I need to test it out before I do any sort of entry anyways to make sure I don't get some crazy score only to be DQ'd cause I don't know how to transfer it.

Lol.

Thanks guys.
04/23/2018 05:11:37 PM · #5
Good idea.

Originally posted by mbrutus2009:

What I may do soon is take a test image and send it over to SC and see what they come up with.



Message edited by author 2018-04-23 17:11:57.
04/23/2018 05:43:21 PM · #6
Originally posted by mbrutus2009:

... I don't know how to transfer it.

1st Choice: If the device lets you save images to a removable card (e.g. Micro-SD) use a card-reader to transfer the files using the computer's OS (i.e. drag-and-drop)

2nd Choice: Mount the device (typically using USB) as external data storage device and transfer files using the OS (as above).
04/23/2018 06:14:20 PM · #7
Originally posted by mbrutus2009:

What I may do soon is take a test image and send it over to SC and see what they come up with. I need to test it out before I do any sort of entry anyways to make sure I don't get some crazy score only to be DQ'd cause I don't know how to transfer it.

Always keep the originals on your phone until the challenge voting is over and done with. In other words, copy them to your computer, don't MOVE them there, when you "download". That way, if you do manage to corrupt them during download you still have the source files. Also, your Samsung will allow you to shoot RAW+JPG in "pro" mode (YES, they have Pro Modes now!) and then you are golden.
04/23/2018 06:22:14 PM · #8
Originally posted by mbrutus2009:

I don't know how to transfer it.


I use Dropbox to transfer photos from phone to PC and works a treat
04/23/2018 08:03:52 PM · #9
My "Old Skool" method is time tested:
- Open the folder on the 'phone in one window
- Open the folder you want to transfer to in another window
- Select the files you want to transfer and drag them across
- Done
This is bar-none the safest method of transfer, because the OS will simply copy them, and will not mark them in any way.

ETA: This is in the category of treating the phone itself as a drive on the computer. This is one of the ones 1031.gif GeneralE mentioned earlier. When you hook your phone directly to the PC with a USB cord, your machine reads it as an actual drive for classification purposes. Just have a holder ready on your desktop, access the images in your phone panel on the desktop, and drag those puppies over with right-click, which gives you the option to copy or move "copy" being the one you seek here :-)

Message edited by Bear_Music - Claridfication.
04/24/2018 08:41:13 AM · #10
Originally posted by P-A-U-L:

Originally posted by mbrutus2009:

I don't know how to transfer it.

I use Dropbox to transfer photos from phone to PC and works a treat

I just share it with myself over email
04/24/2018 02:06:57 PM · #11
Since you have S9 then download AirDroid application, it is free and once you have it installed, run the application, it will use the same home WIFI setup that you have and then it will give you an option where you can see the IP address and port that you can use from desktop/laptop and allows you to download original image as is. e.g. the one that I have it, when I run it, it runs against IP address 192.168.0.19 and opens a port 8888. now when I go to browser and type in //192.168.0.19:8888 a popup will come on cell phone and will say you have been requested to connect to cell phone and then what all you have on cell phone will be seen in a browser. other option is using Android File Transfer utility but for that you will need a USB cable and connect to the computer and computer should be able to identify your phone but again not guaranteed :)
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