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01/21/2018 08:35:58 AM · #1
It was mentioned in a previous thread that it may be possible to view the RAW file like it was shot with the jpg modifications, yet still be on the RAW file. (In other words, it's doing some nice processing on the jpg, and I'd like to start with that instead of starting from scratch with the RAW file, but with the RAW file itself not the jpg.

Make sense?

I can't figure out how to do it. I'm searching google, but obviously not search with the right key words.

Can anyone help? I'm not having much luck, and my processing of the RAW files isn't as nice as the jpg right now. (The sony is doing a much better job than my Canon did, so it's becoming an issue.)

Thanks!
01/21/2018 09:23:47 AM · #2
Argh -- I'm not getting used to lightroom, and I'd like to.

Can I not do a custom zoom in lightroom? It gives me fit in window, 100%, 200%, but what if I just want to pick what portion to zoom, like I'd do in photoshop, but just drawing a box around it? I can't seem to do that. Fit is too small, 100% is too big, I need the inbetweens. :(
01/21/2018 12:35:17 PM · #3
Originally posted by vawendy:

Can anyone help? I'm not having much luck, and my processing of the RAW files isn't as nice as the jpg right now. (The sony is doing a much better job than my Canon did, so it's becoming an issue.)


Lightroom allows you to start with the blank canvas of your RAW file, it's up to you to make it what you want. A great starting place in Lighroom Classic CC, is the "Auto" button in the develop module. I always stayed away from auto fixes but this one works really well to bring your image up to what you saw in the JPEG displayed in chimp mode on your camera.
01/21/2018 12:41:41 PM · #4
Originally posted by vawendy:

Can I not do a custom zoom in lightroom? :(


No. You are limited to the preset zooms in the drop down list on the Navigator header in the Develop module. LR centers the zoom where you place the cursor on the image, so the effect is close to Photoshop's bounding box zoom.

Go to https://northrup.photo/shop/ Their Lightroom Classic CC book will get you over the rough spots. And, if there is ever a Scott Kelby Lightroom seminar close to you, sign up.
01/21/2018 02:35:44 PM · #5
Go to "Camera Calibration" and look for Profile.
Profile Default is set to "Adobe Standard", click on the drop down and you should see bunch of options (similar to the ones in your camera menu).
I have found those to be the closest to the camera jpg to start.

For Zoom, try pressing Ctrl button and using mouse wheel. It's sort of clunky but it works.

Message edited by author 2018-01-21 14:39:45.
01/21/2018 04:50:14 PM · #6
It's not how Photoshop is displaying the raw that I'm looking for, it's the processing on the jpeg. Sony is doing some processing: noise reduction, contrast, etc., And is much better than the raw as is. I can't seem to do the noise reduction myself as well as Sony does it on the jpg. So it would be nice to start with those settings and still have the range of raw.
01/21/2018 05:32:10 PM · #7
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01/22/2018 06:57:40 AM · #8
Wendy, I came across this forum thread on the Adobe forum. I think it answers your question completely.

This may be a stupid question but is it possible to import RAW files into LR and batch process them using presets that mirror how the camera would do it i.e how the camera would create the jpeg but obviously without converting it to a jpeg? Can I specify that they should be processed as my Canon EOS70D would?

Thanks

Correct Answer by JimHess on 26-Sep-2014 07:51
That is one of the challenges when working with raw images. Every camera manufacturer stores the camera settings differently in their proprietary raw file format. Lightroom and Camera Raw (used by Photoshop and Photoshop Elements) are designed to NOT read those settings because of how differently they are stored.

There are a couple of alternatives that will help alleviate this. First of all, you can adjust one of your images so that it matches the JPEG and then you can create a preset that can be applied either individually or applied to all raw files when they are imported into Lightroom. This could be one preset or several presets. But only one preset can be applied on import. The other option would be to adjust one of your raw images so that it matches the JPEG, and then save new camera defaults. Those defaults would then be applied whenever you import new images or reset images that have already been imported.

Since you are using a Canon camera, in the calibration section in the develop module you will find different camera profiles available that are designed to match the different camera settings that you can choose in the camera. These profiles can help to get the image closer to what the JPEG looks like.
01/22/2018 09:47:17 AM · #9
Drat. :(

I was hoping there was an option. Especially with the denoising, I don't seem to be able to get nearly as good of a result as the jpg. I may have to just play with jpgs for awhile while I figure out how to use the denoise better.

Thanks, all!
01/23/2018 04:14:12 PM · #10
Originally posted by vawendy:

I can't seem to do the noise reduction myself as well as Sony does it on the jpg. So it would be nice to start with those settings and still have the range of raw.


Get Topaz Labs DeNoise for noise reduction. There's a freeby eval available.
01/23/2018 04:22:12 PM · #11
Originally posted by vawendy:

It's not how Photoshop is displaying the raw that I'm looking for, it's the processing on the jpeg. Sony is doing some processing: noise reduction, contrast, etc., And is much better than the raw as is. I can't seem to do the noise reduction myself as well as Sony does it on the jpg. So it would be nice to start with those settings and still have the range of raw.


I've been having the same issue. I just started using this A6000 and I'm glad you asked this question!!!
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