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01/19/2018 04:02:54 PM · #1
How is this challenge possible under Standard Editing using the techniques linked to in the description? It talks about drawing in eyebrows, etc., which seem to drift into Extended Editing territory.

Or is the judgement call on "legality" going to be similar to when we have a "painterly" challenge under Standard Editing, with some leeway given?

I understand we can probably get the desired results other ways than the referenced technique, but just want a little clarification or opinions

-mark
01/19/2018 06:10:28 PM · #2
We'll relax a little, as you surmised. We didn't want to do it full-monty with Extended. Think of drawing eyebrows and mouths as just outlining what's already there, just don't go too far overboard.
01/19/2018 06:42:01 PM · #3
Originally posted by Bear_Music:

We'll relax a little, as you surmised. We didn't want to do it full-monty with Extended. Think of drawing eyebrows and mouths as just outlining what's already there, just don't go too far overboard.


Isn't the "Full Monty" always illegal? *grin*
01/19/2018 07:36:44 PM · #4
Originally posted by Lydia:

Originally posted by Bear_Music:

We'll relax a little, as you surmised. We didn't want to do it full-monty with Extended. Think of drawing eyebrows and mouths as just outlining what's already there, just don't go too far overboard.


Isn't the "Full Monty" always illegal? *grin*
not with some strategic post-processing!
01/26/2018 07:09:47 PM · #5
Originally posted by Bear_Music:

We'll relax a little, as you surmised. We didn't want to do it full-monty with Extended. Think of drawing eyebrows and mouths as just outlining what's already there, just don't go too far overboard.


The tutorial uses the paint brush tool. Is this normally not allowed under the Standard Editing rule set? Just trying to figure out what will be allowed for future challenges.
01/26/2018 10:09:56 PM · #6
Originally posted by GolferDDS:

Originally posted by Bear_Music:

We'll relax a little, as you surmised. We didn't want to do it full-monty with Extended. Think of drawing eyebrows and mouths as just outlining what's already there, just don't go too far overboard.

The tutorial uses the paint brush tool. Is this normally not allowed under the Standard Editing rule set? Just trying to figure out what will be allowed for future challenges.

Our Standard Editing Ruleset is not tool-based, but results-based. We wouldn't let you draw some birds in the sky, say, but there's nothing keeping you from highlighting (or suppressing) a feature in the actual exposure by using the paintbrush, within reason. So you might "outline" the lips and eyes, say, in any portrait, and that would generally be acceptable. In this particular challenge there's a specific, non-literal look you are challenged to emulate and we're going to be pretty liberal about interpreting the rules in that regard. We didn't make the challenge Extended Editing because that would have opened it up way too wide in our opinion...
01/27/2018 09:50:43 AM · #7
Thanks Bear.
01/27/2018 12:52:48 PM · #8
In case if anyone would like to know how to do this in photoshop, here you go!
01/30/2018 03:17:23 PM · #9
This is harder than it looks!
01/30/2018 03:40:55 PM · #10
Originally posted by vawendy:

This is harder than it looks!

MUCH, MUCH harder! And of course I waited until the last day :-(
01/30/2018 03:45:17 PM · #11
Originally posted by vawendy:

This is harder than it looks!


I CAN'T EVEN FIND THE BRUSH
01/30/2018 03:48:26 PM · #12
Originally posted by PennyStreet:

Originally posted by vawendy:

This is harder than it looks!


I CAN'T EVEN FIND THE BRUSH


Right click on the brush tool and select the last one.

I've failed at failing!!! I couldn't get the right balance of failing well or failing badly. I failed badly in comparison to the originals. There's a definite skill to this! (what an odd thing to say...)
01/30/2018 03:50:52 PM · #13
I'm in. I had to lie about the photo date -- it said it was out of the date range.
01/30/2018 04:00:45 PM · #14
Originally posted by vawendy:

I'm in. I had to lie about the photo date -- it said it was out of the date range.


I thought I was locked out because of the date but then I found I was in.
01/30/2018 04:13:31 PM · #15
Originally posted by vawendy:

Originally posted by PennyStreet:

Originally posted by vawendy:

This is harder than it looks!


I CAN'T EVEN FIND THE BRUSH


Right click on the brush tool and select the last one.

I've failed at failing!!! I couldn't get the right balance of failing well or failing badly. I failed badly in comparison to the originals. There's a definite skill to this! (what an odd thing to say...)


I have CS6. Not there. I searched. I read the tutorial. I only have paint and pencil. I tried. Not there.
01/30/2018 04:31:41 PM · #16
Originally posted by PennyStreet:

I have CS6. Not there. I searched. I read the tutorial. I only have paint and pencil. I tried. Not there.

It should be in the area below the healing brush tools and above the clone stamp tool.
01/30/2018 05:50:06 PM · #17
I did the exercise and the whole idea of a pie face is so horrible that I don't think I want this image in my portfolio.
01/30/2018 05:53:02 PM · #18
Originally posted by mariuca:

I did the exercise and the whole idea of a pie face is so horrible that I don't think I want this image in my portfolio.

Aww, c'mon! I'll put MINE in (it's execrable) if you put YOURS in :-)
01/30/2018 06:09:08 PM · #19
Originally posted by Bear_Music:

Originally posted by mariuca:

I did the exercise and the whole idea of a pie face is so horrible that I don't think I want this image in my portfolio.

Aww, c'mon! I'll put MINE in (it's execrable) if you put YOURS in :-)


Can we do this in private?
01/30/2018 06:46:38 PM · #20
No way is it an improvement or enhancement to the original image.
01/30/2018 07:16:37 PM · #21
Originally posted by mariuca:

Can we do this in private?

Not sure what that means, in this context...
01/30/2018 08:49:19 PM · #22
Originally posted by Bear_Music:

Originally posted by mariuca:

Can we do this in private?

Not sure what that means, in this context...


You started this!
01/30/2018 11:45:58 PM · #23
i spent some time editing it and i will not submit it. i actually regret waisting time...
01/31/2018 12:36:20 AM · #24
Originally posted by Tiberius:

i spent some time editing it and i will not submit it. i actually regret waisting time...


Hear, hear
01/31/2018 10:03:18 AM · #25
Ouch! Last two votes averaged 3.5

Ummm... voters... the photos are supposed to look stupid!
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