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01/17/2018 04:19:22 PM · #1
Yup. Here it Is
01/17/2018 04:35:34 PM · #2
Originally posted by Jay Hutton:


... After a short poeriod of time after the wedding date, we will also allow preselected images to be promoted by the photographer on their own website or social media platform."


How kind of Jay!
01/17/2018 04:39:07 PM · #3
Geez... That's pathetic... Idiot... -_-
01/17/2018 05:17:44 PM · #4
The thing I don't get about this is that the guy has something to offer in return.

'You do my wedding and I'll give you or someone of your choice a tattoo'

Why not offer yourself, your goods and your abilities in return.

01/17/2018 06:33:41 PM · #5
Originally posted by RamblinR:

Why not offer yourself, your goods and your abilities in return.

Because he's a CELEBRITY! Celebrities don't barter, it's just the same as paying cash, to them.So they'll offer you *access*, which if you are sharp you can parlay into further access until you, too, are part of the group that does these things.
01/17/2018 07:26:52 PM · #6
WOW! The nerve! If you come shoot our wedding for free, we'll do the correct thing by giving you credit for taking them... well... since you own the copyright, of course!

Wow!

The worst part of this whole experience for me personally is that... when I went to that site, it showed me ads for stuff I'd been looking at elsewhere.

Is there no decency in the world?! Ha!
01/17/2018 08:18:39 PM · #7
Well I'm doing a wedding in a couple of weeks lovely couple 2nd time around 8 kids between them and not much money, So its up the road in Foxton, they have been gifted the Clydesdale tram for the transport. and I have chipped in the photos for a mere pittance and a meal. Why? because they are real Kiwi Battlers who deserve a break .....

01/17/2018 08:24:50 PM · #8
Good for you, Nick!

I've given several wedding photography services to friends, when I was just starting out. I always made them have someone go behind me and shoot everything I shot, because I was so afraid of having all of the images lost or something.

Nowadays, I'm way too scared to shoot weddings and won't even GIVE my services away! Ha!

01/18/2018 03:37:37 AM · #9
[quote=Lydia] Good for you, Nick!

I've given several wedding photography services to friends, when I was just starting out. I always made them have someone go behind me and shoot everything I shot, because I was so afraid of having all of the images lost or something.

Nowadays, I'm way too scared to shoot weddings and won't even GIVE my services away! Ha! [/quote

I'm taking my grand daughter (14) as helper and dogsbody,mainly to help and keep an eye on my gear bag, have found having a woman around they pick up the small details of the bride and her dress and flowers etc.I think her parents will be pleased to see her earning !!!...
01/18/2018 09:26:58 AM · #10
I love these jerks who think thy have *any* say over how the images of the photog can be used.
01/18/2018 10:32:25 AM · #11
Originally posted by NikonJeb:

I love these jerks who think thy have *any* say over how the images of the photog can be used.

Unless you have a contract specifying otherwise it is *possible* for the subject to claim copyright under the "work for hire" provisions of the US copyright law.
01/18/2018 11:21:10 AM · #12
Originally posted by NikonJeb:

I love these jerks who think thy have *any* say over how the images of the photog can be used.

Originally posted by GeneralE:

Unless you have a contract specifying otherwise it is *possible* for the subject to claim copyright under the "work for hire" provisions of the US copyright law.

I thought it was the other way around.... You only have the work-for-hire copyrights if you specify that as part of the original agreement.
01/18/2018 11:51:28 AM · #13
Originally posted by NikonJeb:

Originally posted by NikonJeb:

I love these jerks who think thy have *any* say over how the images of the photog can be used.

Originally posted by GeneralE:

Unless you have a contract specifying otherwise it is *possible* for the subject to claim copyright under the "work for hire" provisions of the US copyright law.

I thought it was the other way around.... You only have the work-for-hire copyrights if you specify that as part of the original agreement.

You may be right, though the big problem is getting into a situation where a court might have to decide.
01/18/2018 11:59:26 AM · #14
Originally posted by NikonJeb:

Originally posted by NikonJeb:

I love these jerks who think thy have *any* say over how the images of the photog can be used.

Originally posted by GeneralE:

Unless you have a contract specifying otherwise it is *possible* for the subject to claim copyright under the "work for hire" provisions of the US copyright law.

I thought it was the other way around.... You only have the work-for-hire copyrights if you specify that as part of the original agreement.

Generally, Jeb is correct.
Originally posted by wiki:

The circumstances in which a work is considered a "work made for hire" is determined by the United States Copyright Act of 1976 as either

(1) a work prepared by an employee within the scope of his or her employment; or (2) a work specially ordered or commissioned for use as a contribution to a collective work, as a part of a motion picture or other audiovisual work, as a translation, as a supplementary work, as a compilation, as an instructional text, as a test, as answer material for a test, or as an atlas, if the parties expressly agree in a written instrument signed by them that the work shall be considered a work made for hire. (17 U.S.C. § 101)

Originally posted by wiki:

On the other hand, if the work is created by an independent contractor or freelancer, the work may be considered a work for hire only if all of the following conditions are met:

the work must come within one of the nine limited categories of works listed in the definition above, namely (1) a contribution to a collective work, (2) a part of a motion picture or other audiovisual work, (3) a translation, (4) a supplementary work, (5) a compilation, (6) an instructional text, (7) a test, (8) answer material for a test, (9) an atlas;
the work must be specially ordered or commissioned;
there must be a written agreement between the parties specifying that the work is a work made for hire by use of the phrase "work for hire" or "work made for hire."[1]
In other words, mutual agreement that a work is a work for hire is not enough. Any agreement not meeting all of the above criteria is not a valid work for hire agreement and all rights to the work will remain with the creator. Further, courts have held that the agreement must be negotiated, though not signed, before the work begins. Retroactive work for hire is not permitted.

We used to have ALL SORTS of trouble explaining this to architects, who are notoriously alpha-beasts anyway :-)
01/18/2018 12:38:02 PM · #15
Originally posted by kiwinick:


I'm taking my grand daughter (14) as helper and dogsbody,mainly to help and keep an eye on my gear bag, have found having a woman around they pick up the small details of the bride and her dress and flowers etc.I think her parents will be pleased to see her earning !!!...


I'm sure it will be a grand success! Please show us some when you're finished.
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