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10/20/2004 01:29:33 AM · #1 |
I have to say I am a little disappointed in the School Days turnout. I finished a quick run through. One or two are sticking out of the crowd, but not many.
Is it just me? |
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10/20/2004 01:32:15 AM · #2 |
| gotta agree with you. As I'm sure others did, I found it difficult to develop a subject that was not a cliche. |
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10/20/2004 01:32:38 AM · #3 |
Yah i've voted already and didn't seen nothing special. I think i got everones ideia! so its seems its coming down to low votes! i'm i little disapointed with the points i've been getting for the fotos! When i think i'm getting better on fotography it seems that its the same! :(
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10/20/2004 01:33:01 AM · #4 |
Didn't people say that about Communication... and again about Parts?
Really... people need to be more positive rather than negative.
Note that I rather liked my own shot, though it isn't doing so hot at the start. Oh well... there's always next time. |
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10/20/2004 01:33:20 AM · #5 |
i see that there is (like the communications challenge) alot that is very repetitory...
i tried personally going to a big of an extreme and although i was warned for this my photo is gettin rather creamed....
it fits the challenge however it fits the challenge in the context of australian lifestyle... i spoke to some1 living in america and he was the one who warned me and its because there is a difference in the way certain things run and certain events are held so as a result they probably will be shocked by my photo and possibly even repulsed by it... will see once comments come in how its all going though
too early to say for certain |
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10/20/2004 04:45:50 AM · #6 |
One of the reasons I did not enter was the fact I new the perception of my pic would be most probably not understood.
In different counties (even more continents) same things meen something different. So entering with something which can only mean "SCHOOL" in my country would seem to have to connection with the challenge for, say, Americans.
I'm not proud of it, but I passed on this one because of this perception issue.
Wu
Message edited by author 2004-10-20 04:46:28.
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10/20/2004 04:56:42 AM · #7 |
| a question to all of the photographic masters who were uninterested in the challenge...what exactly were you looking for in the challenge? |
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10/20/2004 05:02:57 AM · #8 |
I did enter (not sure if it was a good idea though), what put doubts in my mind was the 'golden rule' bit - first time I've heard of it.
I would have been happier if the challenge would have read thus:
"Take us back to the 'best days of our lives'! Photograph something that represents school life."
Personally they were not the best days of my life - but I think that explaination is much more universal
Darren |
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10/20/2004 05:11:54 AM · #9 |
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10/20/2004 05:15:03 AM · #10 |
Hi
My entry is also under a 5, er as mostly is the case for me, but I have to say that I like my photo for school days challenge its not a winner but like my other entries they mean something to me, and I feel an attachement with them, they are my expressions and I want to share my thoughts, my perception with others this is a wonderful thing to do, and if I learn a little along the way then thats wonderful too! When I am looking at photographs of others I look for the moment, emotion, setting, composition, unique and creativity from the eye of the person behind the camera, for me its not all about the crisp, perfect correct type of shot or even the overprocessed look which is seen by some as being poster perfect, what is wrong with a bit of imperfection? It is to me the quirky angles mistakes, emotions of the subject or scene that win high votes!
good luck :)
Lisa |
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10/20/2004 05:31:24 AM · #11 |
I have to agree with this. I'm no professional photographer, more a complete novice. However, since registering I have learnt a huge amount from reading comments and tutorials as well as getting inspiration from some of the superb photographs submitted. I too am very much a 5 and under and while I would love to achieve a ribbon I am happy just submitting photos and recieving feedback from other photographers. I do however have to admit that sometimes I am unclear whether I am voting on the quality of the photo, it's relevance to the challenge or simply how I feel about it.
Message edited by author 2004-10-20 05:32:15. |
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10/20/2004 05:42:23 AM · #12 |
I'm in with you RUSS. Just a novice and simply enjoy taking and submitting photos. Though I would like tolearne more from comments, but I don't seem to get that many. My scores aren't all that high but nobody bothers to tell me why. I would particularlly like comments from those that didn't bother to submit, but seem think that I shouldn't have bothered either.
Just my two bobs worth |
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10/20/2004 05:43:24 AM · #13 |
Originally posted by Russ:
I do however have to admit that sometimes I am unclear whether I am voting on the quality of the photo, it's relevance to the challenge or simply how I feel about it. |
I think basically 33.333% of your vote should be assigned to each of those things you mentioned. they're all relevant aspects to consider when voting, though perhaps i would be inclined to give slightly more weight to the "feel" aspect... |
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10/20/2004 05:52:27 AM · #14 |
Originally posted by dartompkins:
I have to say I am a little disappointed in the School Days turnout. I finished a quick run through. One or two are sticking out of the crowd, but not many.
Is it just me? |
Well, I am not impressed with my score, I am going for another brown ribbon. I may do the only honorable thing - take my camera out and shoot myself. |
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10/20/2004 05:53:08 AM · #15 |
| i think relevance to the challenge should carry much less weight, given the nature of the site and the vast array of different cultures represented, it's impossible to make a decision on the worth of a photo given the viewer's limited understanding of the actual background of the photo. |
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10/20/2004 05:56:27 AM · #16 |
I found difficult to focus on what makes me think about school probably because there are many different images that does and definetly because everyone got theirs.
That makes the search for an original and expressive composition too unnatural and forced.
I didn't see, excepted a couple, any impressing shot, and yes, there are much more duplicates than in communication or in touch.
But one of the featues that I like in this website is exactly this: it's challenging because most of the times you don't have a clue.
And when you come out with a good shot that's great.
But that's not the case, I guess I'll remain around or above 5. |
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10/20/2004 06:48:43 AM · #17 |
Originally posted by Katranka:
...That makes the search for an original and expressive composition too unnatural and forced.
...there are much more duplicates than in communication or in touch. |
I tried original and expressive, and there's nothing unnatural about my image, AND there's not another one like it in the challenge...and have a new personal worst in 54 challenges. I've never had a 3 before. No comments, either. :o( |
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10/20/2004 06:56:00 AM · #18 |
Welcome to my world laurielblack. I always try original and expressive and I like every one of them. Unfortunately most others don't seem too.
Maybe there should be a challenge where originality is removed and everyone has to shot the same thing, like a brick or a coke can.
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10/20/2004 07:05:27 AM · #19 |
Very disappointed ..... that there were not a lot of shots of really sexy school mistresses wielding canes!
Sheesh perverts, what were you thinking!
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10/20/2004 07:39:43 AM · #20 |
Originally posted by laurielblack:
I tried original and expressive, and there's nothing unnatural about my image, AND there's not another one like it in the challenge...and have a new personal worst in 54 challenges. I've never had a 3 before. No comments, either. :o( |
Laurel, I'm hoping we just had a tough night crowd! I've been through the submissions 3 times and just don't see any that deserve 3's! Mine is fairing a little better at 4.8, but I surely thought I had learned enough to have seen my last 4!! No comments here either. |
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10/20/2004 08:13:34 AM · #21 |
Originally posted by Natator:
Very disappointed ..... that there were not a lot of shots of really sexy school mistresses wielding canes!
Sheesh perverts, what were you thinking! |
...maybe I should try the pervert route next time! ROFL! :o) |
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10/20/2004 09:02:51 AM · #22 |
I all do respect the beginning of this thread was way to early to give it such a negitive title. The 1st post was @ 1:29:32 am only 89min and 32 sec. into voting. That would give a voter only 27 sec. to look at each entry in a perfect world. But if you are participating in other forums during that timeline [thread not disclosed- 10/20/2004 01:20:48 AM] tells me that you were through looking at all the entries by that time. That means now you only took 24 sec. to look at each entry. Now if you were looking at the complete image [not the thumbnail version] you would have to account for 5 sec. to click on the picture, hit the back button, and click on the next picture - now your down to only 19 sec looking at the picture.
I do not believe someone can adequately judge a photograph in 19 seconds for 1hr. and 20min. consecutively. The only other way to view a photo for more than 19 sec. in this timeline is by looking at the thumbnails. To me this is even worse because you cannot see the details. That’s why many people vote photos a '1' for submitting a small photograph.
I am not trying to be the odd ball here but I hope people can see my point that you must take time to look at a group of photographs before publicly offering a negative opinion on the complete challenge. Because it makes others become negative.
Another poster said they had already voted on the challenge and it was @ 1:32:38. If they started at 12:00am that only gave them 92min and 38 sec. to vote on the challenge. That’s only taking 28 sec per photograph and if you take out the time it took them to find this post, read, write their thread, and post it – well you see it would be around 26 sec. per picture vote. Take into account it takes an average 3 sec to go between photos so now that only give 23 sec. per picture to decide your vote. [ I get my time from my connection speed of 3mb/ a fast download speed].
I know these people will go back and look at the challenge again and probably adjust their votes but the damage has all ready been done with a negative post only 1hr and 20 min. into a challenge.
All I’m saying is give other people time to go through the challenge before starting a negative thread. You maybe influencing a person’s vote, maybe a person that is voting on your photograph as well, if you entered.
Message edited by author 2004-10-20 09:23:14. |
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10/20/2004 09:26:25 AM · #23 |
SDW65,
My statement was that I had finished a quick run through. I have a very fast connection and the pictures load instantly (too fast for your stop watch), and I had looked at each photo individually. If I remember correctly, I had finished my initial vote. I take judging very seriously and will go back and review and adjust my votes at least two more times before the challenge ends.
My statement was not meant to be taken as a black cloud to hang over the challenge. I simply was making the observation that I found little "WOW" in the entries. I think that says more about the challenge being a real "challenge" than about the individual photos.
I didn't mean to offend. By the way, my score is just a mediocre as they come as well. |
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10/20/2004 09:29:21 AM · #24 |
SDW65, you should work for CSI or something!
;0) |
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10/20/2004 09:37:31 AM · #25 |
| My post was not meant to offend anyone in anyway. IMO when someone sees a thread titled, “School Days – Not Impressed” that quick after voting started it may influence there voting pattern. You say you will go back and adjust your vote but you cannot adjust an impression you may have made on someone. Now should they vote differently because they saw this tread, no! But subconsciously it’s human nature. |
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