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07/26/2016 01:25:48 PM · #1
Several years ago I wanted to buy a fisheye lens. The one available at the time was the Sigma 10mm, which seemingly is discontinued. The salesman persuaded me to buy the Sigma 10-20mm instead, saying it was more useful.

While I love my ultrawide zoom, I've always regretted missing out on the fisheye, and all I've managed to acquire over the years is a fisheye converter for one of my Olympus lenses.

My favourite camera shop is advertising a second hand Tokina 10-17mm f/3.5-4.5 Fisheye and I'm seriously tempted. The one thing putting me off is reports of chromatic aberration and purple fringing.

I see that quite a few DPC members own this lens, but I don't see familiar names on that page and nobody's ever won a ribbon with it.

Does anyone have an opinion on whether this lens is worth buying? The proper fisheye lens for Olympus is outside my price range at the moment and the only other affordable option I've come across for Canon is the lensbaby (circular) fisheye.
07/26/2016 02:30:56 PM · #2
Are you most interested in a circular fisheye, or something that covers the entire frame? If a circular, the Peleng 8mm is a reasonable option, and in fact I have one that I'd be willing to let go. If you are looking for full-frame coverage, a used Canon 15/2.8 fisheye might be a good bet. It's a good performer that should be available at relatively reasonable prices.
07/26/2016 05:39:22 PM · #3
First off I'm too far away (South Africa) so I have to decline your offer. Aside from that my Olympus adaptor gives me circular images, though with some weird reflections around the image as can be seen in these recent challenge entries:
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Taking that into account, I think I'd be better off going for something that covers the whole frame. And I'm not sure that the Canon 15mm fisheye would be the right lens for a crop sensor.

I'm a bit frustrated that the shop currently has a second hand 10.5mm fisheye lens for sale, but it's a Nikon.
07/26/2016 07:10:52 PM · #4
No doubt you're right on both counts... although the Peleng actually came to me direct from Russia, so it's not out of the question. The Canon 15 is really not very fishy on a crop sensor, and so is probably out of the picture. Too bad the Nikon 10.5 is "G" lens, if not it might be made to work with an adapter. I believe the only Nikon 10.5mm fish is the G, however.
I assume you have seen the photozone.de review on the Tokina... the CA is really pretty correctable in post, in fact if you are a Lr user, there is a built in correction profile for it. Lr is usually pretty good at removing purple fringing as well, but be warned that, unlike lateral CA correction, there can be side effects, though they are not common. If the price is right on that lens, it might be worth a look. Ask to borrow it for a day, or "rent with the option to purchase" with the rental fee applied to the purchase.
07/26/2016 07:26:17 PM · #5
I don't use Lightroom. I had the trial years ago but didn't really like it. What I'm using right now is Photoshop CS5 and the Nik plug-ins. Editing little details isn't my strength, but I find that converting to black and white hides a lot of faults and I often like my photos better that way anyway, so I'm really hooked on Silver Efex at the moment.

The idea of borrowing the lens for a day sounds good in theory, but I'm not sure I'd have the courage to ask if I can do that. Besides I don't think I'd get the opportunity to test it well enough to be sure how I feel about it. I don't often go out specifically to take photos, but rather shoot what presents itself to me.
07/27/2016 12:29:20 PM · #6
if you are using 4/3 that lens will only give a field of view of 20mm which isn't really fisheye. you really need to find a 5mm or 6mm for a 4/3 mount but i dont know if any exist.

07/27/2016 06:03:06 PM · #7
Originally posted by Mike:

if you are using 4/3 that lens will only give a field of view of 20mm which isn't really fisheye. you really need to find a 5mm or 6mm for a 4/3 mount but i dont know if any exist.


No, it's not for my Olympus, it's for my Canon 7D. Olympus makes a fisheye lens (I think it's 8mm) but it's outside my price range new and there's not much chance of my finding one second hand.

Anyway I went ahead and bought the Tokina. Time will tell whether or not it was a wise move but I've been wanting a fisheye lens for so long that I didn't want to make the same mistake as I did when I let a salesman talk me out of the Sigma 10mm fisheye all those years ago.
07/28/2016 03:00:33 PM · #8
Originally posted by GinaRothfels:

Several years ago I wanted to buy a fisheye lens. The one available at the time was the Sigma 10mm, which seemingly is discontinued. The salesman persuaded me to buy the Sigma 10-20mm instead, saying it was more useful.

While I love my ultrawide zoom, I've always regretted missing out on the fisheye, and all I've managed to acquire over the years is a fisheye converter for one of my Olympus lenses.

My favourite camera shop is advertising a second hand Tokina 10-17mm f/3.5-4.5 Fisheye and I'm seriously tempted. The one thing putting me off is reports of chromatic aberration and purple fringing.

I see that quite a few DPC members own this lens, but I don't see familiar names on that page and nobody's ever won a ribbon with it.

Does anyone have an opinion on whether this lens is worth buying? The proper fisheye lens for Olympus is outside my price range at the moment and the only other affordable option I've come across for Canon is the lens baby (circular) fisheye.


Why not the Bower/Rokinon/Samyang 7.5mm Fisheye lens? It is cheap, small and works amazingly well. Here is its page Rokinon 7.5mm f/3.5

Here are some of my images with it

Here are lots of examples with those lenses from the sample image thread on the MU-43 forum.

I love my Bower 7.5mm Fisheye but I will get the Olympus 8mm 1.8 soon. You don't see many winning photographs from a fisheye because not everyone likes the look and it is not an easy lens to use. It is my only wide lens and I love using it, maybe one day I will get the Olympus 7-14mm but that is long way down on my list.
07/28/2016 05:40:07 PM · #9
Originally posted by Kobba:

Why not the Bower/Rokinon/Samyang 7.5mm Fisheye lens? It is cheap, small and works amazingly well. Here is its page Rokinon 7.5mm f/3.5

Here are some of my images with it

Here are lots of examples with those lenses from the sample image thread on the MU-43 forum.

I love my Bower 7.5mm Fisheye but I will get the Olympus 8mm 1.8 soon. You don't see many winning photographs from a fisheye because not everyone likes the look and it is not an easy lens to use. It is my only wide lens and I love using it, maybe one day I will get the Olympus 7-14mm but that is long way down on my list.


Unfortunately there's a lot less variety available in South Africa, so I had to go with what's available. I've already bought the lens so I guess I'm stuck with it. One advantage to me is the fact that it's a zoom, so I've got the added option of being able to create some really weird images with zoom blur.
07/28/2016 06:19:35 PM · #10
Dammit, this whole thread got me thinking about changing up my fisheye situation, LOL!
I currently have the old Canon 15mm fish, and the Peleng 8mm. I've had both for the better part of a decade. I'm seriously considering selling them both and picking up the Canon 8-15mm fish.

ETA: well that was fast. Found a used 8-15 on Fredmiranda. The deal is done. Anybody need a Peleng 8mm fish, or a Canon 15 fish?

Message edited by author 2016-07-28 22:29:48.
07/30/2016 06:30:07 PM · #11
The 8-15mm is a great choice for full-frame but wouldn't have done for me even if I could afford it.

Sorry I made you spend money. Enjoy your new lens.
07/30/2016 07:32:10 PM · #12
Originally posted by kirbic:

Dammit, this whole thread got me thinking about changing up my fisheye situation, LOL!
I currently have the old Canon 15mm fish, and the Peleng 8mm. I've had both for the better part of a decade. I'm seriously considering selling them both and picking up the Canon 8-15mm fish.

ETA: well that was fast. Found a used 8-15 on Fredmiranda. The deal is done. Anybody need a Peleng 8mm fish, or a Canon 15 fish?

Does the Peleng cover FF? I assume it's Canon mount...

ETA: I see it's a circular fish on FF... What will you let it go for?

Message edited by author 2016-07-30 19:54:10.
07/30/2016 09:57:20 PM · #13
Originally posted by Bear_Music:

ETA: I see it's a circular fish on FF... What will you let it go for?


It's actually an M42 mount natively so it's pretty flexible. I have been using it with a Canon adapter. I'll PM you with a price...
07/31/2016 03:03:28 PM · #14
I have 10 17 of pentax and if this is same lens than I would highly recommend.

At 17 mm the fisheye affect is mostly gone (in pentax) so its very nice lens to have. Made some of my fav images from it.

07/31/2016 05:01:30 PM · #15
Thanks. That's good to know. I've noticed a bit of a problem with purple fringing but I guess I can live with it. I love what the lens can do.
07/31/2016 10:39:03 PM · #16
Here are few photos from my flickr
(such a pain to link photos from flickr, reminded me why I dont use flickr any more. Cant find a good way to show photos here)

https://www.flickr.com/photos/30481251@N04/4178552770/

https://www.flickr.com/photos/30481251@N04/4177790577/

https://www.flickr.com/photos/30481251@N04/4889976934/

https://www.flickr.com/photos/30481251@N04/7282660620/

https://www.flickr.com/photos/30481251@N04/7282653500/

https://www.flickr.com/photos/30481251@N04/7282656914/

08/01/2016 07:09:58 AM · #17
I had the Tokina 11-16mm f2.8 and it was an excellent lens. Very well built and great optics. Used it on my Canon 7D and it was an excellent combination.

Tokina 11-16mm f2.8 on DPC
08/01/2016 07:39:09 AM · #18
Originally posted by MikeO:

I had the Tokina 11-16mm f2.8 and it was an excellent lens. Very well built and great optics. Used it on my Canon 7D and it was an excellent combination.

Tokina 11-16mm f2.8 on DPC


That looks more like an ultra-wide than fisheye though.

The build quality of the 10-17mm seems good too, and the purple fringing doesn't seem to show in black and white. As I've been converting most of my photos to b&w lately anyway, I'm not too concerned about it.
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