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07/11/2016 11:28:22 AM · #1
scary guy, irritating photographer
07/11/2016 12:03:30 PM · #2
Wow... That's way over the top :-( I've had run-ins back in the day, with people objecting to my taking up space with the big view camera, but nothing anywhere near as bad as this, just a little shouting and finger-flipping...
07/11/2016 12:09:22 PM · #3
Crazy stuff. Be careful out there.
07/11/2016 12:37:07 PM · #4
Whoa - I'm so glad those photographers not only recorded the action, but took the recording to the police.
quick thinking, for sure.
That fellow is going to be contemplating his 'private driveway' from behind bars for a while, I hope.

07/11/2016 01:40:20 PM · #5
Was that guy on drugs???? Geez...
07/11/2016 04:05:44 PM · #6
I'm going to go there... imagine if this idiot had a sidearm?!

How is it that this is becoming the norm when it comes to confrontation? Oh yeah. "In the old days they would have carried that guy out on a stretcher!"
07/11/2016 05:15:36 PM · #7
Thanks, Wendy.

Now I remember why I don't shoot in public. *eek*
07/11/2016 05:16:16 PM · #8
This is the google maps location of where it all took place. Found it in just a few minutes just by the description and a little investigative work. Pubic road for sure. The gates and things along side the road all match up. Usually you would still need a permit from the DOT to set up on the traveled part of the road, no matter how deserted it is. That would have saved the whole confrontation probably, or made it worse, who knows.
07/11/2016 05:16:22 PM · #9
Originally posted by sfalice:

Whoa - I'm so glad those photographers not only recorded the action, but took the recording to the police.
quick thinking, for sure.
That fellow is going to be contemplating his 'private driveway' from behind bars for a while, I hope.


Looks like he's charged with a felony.
07/11/2016 05:18:30 PM · #10
Originally posted by Dennisheckman:

This is the google maps location of where it all took place. Found it in just a few minutes just by the description and a little investigative work. Pubic road for sure. The gates and things along side the road all match up. Usually you would still need a permit from the DOT to set up on the traveled part of the road, no matter how deserted it is. That would have saved the whole confrontation probably, or made it worse, who knows.


Cool. Nicely done.

I don't see even ONE driveway in the 360 degree shots.
07/11/2016 05:20:32 PM · #11
I'd be pretty scared of that maniac. Fortunately, he was arrested: //petapixel.com/2016/07/11/man-charged-felony-assault-threatening-photographer/

And his address doesn't match the road where the incident occurred.

Message edited by author 2016-07-11 17:21:06.
07/11/2016 06:29:45 PM · #12
Originally posted by Lydia:

Originally posted by Dennisheckman:

This is the google maps location of where it all took place. Found it in just a few minutes just by the description and a little investigative work. Pubic road for sure. The gates and things along side the road all match up. Usually you would still need a permit from the DOT to set up on the traveled part of the road, no matter how deserted it is. That would have saved the whole confrontation probably, or made it worse, who knows.


Cool. Nicely done.

I don't see even ONE driveway in the 360 degree shots.


I can only guess that he is referring to the gate to access the farmland at about 35s in, although there is no actual road or driveway visible anywhere.
07/11/2016 06:31:00 PM · #13
Originally posted by Neil:

I'd be pretty scared of that maniac. Fortunately, he was arrested: //petapixel.com/2016/07/11/man-charged-felony-assault-threatening-photographer/

And his address doesn't match the road where the incident occurred.


They should add reckless driving to the charges as well.
07/11/2016 06:43:10 PM · #14
According to Mr. Google, there is a Gerri Gordon listed at 18759 Rangeland Rd, which is about 2 miles north of the location. The address is not actually on that road, it's in a subdivision where oddly the road is also called Rangeland Rd, but is a branch off the "main" road. I'd guess that Mr. Gordon was well aware that the road was public, but was "taking liberties" with the truth. Well, he's going to be spending some money defending himself against that felony charge now!
I think the photog was very ill advised to use a public roadway for a shoot without a permit (I assume he did not have one or he would have used that to his advantage during the confrontation). He certainly did not deserve to take abuse for it.

Message edited by author 2016-07-11 18:55:22.
07/11/2016 06:48:31 PM · #15
Gosh, that would be so scary! I hope the punishment fits the crime.
07/11/2016 06:49:41 PM · #16
Originally posted by FromDaRock:

Originally posted by Neil:

I'd be pretty scared of that maniac. Fortunately, he was arrested: //petapixel.com/2016/07/11/man-charged-felony-assault-threatening-photographer/

And his address doesn't match the road where the incident occurred.


They should add reckless driving to the charges as well.


Let's see, Improper Lane Change, Failure to Signal Intentions, Improper U Turn, Parking in the middle of the damn road, Road Rage. I am sure there are more but that's what I've got.
07/11/2016 07:10:15 PM · #17
I can't help but wonder how many kids race on that road. He's probably fed up with their shit and lost his mind when he finally caught what he thought was some of them. I feel like he was trying to scare some little shits with no actual intention of hurting anyone. This is when country law meets city law. I'm a city law kind of gal myself, but I get where he's coming from to an extent. To clarify, I don't agree with it, but I get it.
07/11/2016 09:22:52 PM · #18
Originally posted by kirbic:

According to Mr. Google, there is a Gerri Gordon listed at 18759 Rangeland Rd, which is about 2 miles north of the location. The address is not actually on that road, it's in a subdivision where oddly the road is also called Rangeland Rd, but is a branch off the "main" road. I'd guess that Mr. Gordon was well aware that the road was public, but was "taking liberties" with the truth. Well, he's going to be spending some money defending himself against that felony charge now!
I think the photog was very ill advised to use a public roadway for a shoot without a permit (I assume he did not have one or he would have used that to his advantage during the confrontation). He certainly did not deserve to take abuse for it.


As much as I avoid shooting in public... it's only my shyness about shooting others.

If I were on the side of any road... in a public right of way... I would totally know that I, having paid my taxes to provide that right of way, would... be in the right of the situation.

WHO owns that right of way? The taxpayers?
07/11/2016 09:25:59 PM · #19
Originally posted by aliqui:

I can't help but wonder how many kids race on that road. He's probably fed up with their shit and lost his mind when he finally caught what he thought was some of them. I feel like he was trying to scare some little shits with no actual intention of hurting anyone. This is when country law meets city law. I'm a city law kind of gal myself, but I get where he's coming from to an extent. To clarify, I don't agree with it, but I get it.


I think you're giving him a kind of benefit of the doubt that he doesn't deserve. What you are saying is pure speculation and nothing that was shown even hints at that being the case. The man purposely drove a 5000+ lb vehicle at a pedestrian twice while telling them to get off his driveway. That driveway being a public road.

I can understand, not agree with, but understand if he was angry because they were photographing him, his family or his house or something, but this was a lonely road that appears to be surrounded by pastures. Not a dwelling in sight.
07/11/2016 09:49:17 PM · #20
I actually know the road and the place. We used it for a "motorhome in the countryside" shoot once for San Diego Magazine. This was a long time ago. It was even more deserted then. It basically goes from nowhere to nowhere with no reason to be on it. We weren't the first to stage there, and obviously not the last :-)
07/11/2016 10:37:52 PM · #21
I thought this was going to be another story about Wendy.....

(grinning, ducking, running)
07/11/2016 10:50:41 PM · #22
Originally posted by JakeKurdsjuk:

I'm going to go there... imagine if this idiot had a sidearm?!

It might have turned out worse had either of them been armed ...
07/12/2016 12:42:42 PM · #23
Originally posted by FromDaRock:

Originally posted by aliqui:

I can't help but wonder how many kids race on that road. He's probably fed up with their shit and lost his mind when he finally caught what he thought was some of them. I feel like he was trying to scare some little shits with no actual intention of hurting anyone. This is when country law meets city law. I'm a city law kind of gal myself, but I get where he's coming from to an extent. To clarify, I don't agree with it, but I get it.


I think you're giving him a kind of benefit of the doubt that he doesn't deserve. What you are saying is pure speculation and nothing that was shown even hints at that being the case. The man purposely drove a 5000+ lb vehicle at a pedestrian twice while telling them to get off his driveway. That driveway being a public road.

I can understand, not agree with, but understand if he was angry because they were photographing him, his family or his house or something, but this was a lonely road that appears to be surrounded by pastures. Not a dwelling in sight.


Remember, I said I don't agree with his actions, I just get it. This is just my opinion on what I saw and my personal experience.

There were a lot of men like this where I grew up. My uncle was one of those guys that sat on his deck with a shotgun waiting for his girls to come home in high school. We knew he had no intentions of hurting anyone, but the boys didn't. He was merely puffing up his chest to protect his girls... who were in no danger. He yelled at the neighborhood kids all the time, and they were scared of him, but they learned quickly to respect him and his rules. If this guy in the video wanted to hit the guys, he would have, he didn't.

In rural areas it's often easiest (and more effective) to deal with stuff yourself than call the cops. This is how many of them deal with things, through fear tactics. A kid at my bus stop threw a rock in front of a truck as it drove by. The guy slammed on his brakes, threw it in reverse squealing the whole way, got out of the truck, screamed in the face of this kid, got back in his truck, and squealed away. We all thought he was going to kill the kid, it was scary as hell. Did the kid ever throw rocks again? Nope.

07/12/2016 01:03:24 PM · #24
How much more grievous are the consequences of anger than the causes of it.

Marcus Aurelius Antoninus (121 AD - 180 AD)

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07/12/2016 05:00:24 PM · #25
I grew up about a half mile from Rangeland Rd., and know it very well. There are no houses until you get to the very end. There are no driveways along it, but there are a couple of gates to access pasture land. The photographer certainly wasn't blocking any of those.

As far as kids using Rangeland as a drag strip, I really doubt it. There is only one way in and out, so would make it difficult, at best, to escape the cops.
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