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05/23/2016 08:59:28 PM · #1
Originally posted by Neil:

As far as the program calling in, there's a period of time you can be offline before the program needs to check your license info. I seem to recall it being 4 weeks, but it could be 2 weeks.

I think LR/CS CC are worth the $10 a month. I had upgraded LR and then decided a few months later to go with CC when they lowered the price, so I wasted a bit of money. But overall, it's cheaper to pay the $10 a month than upgrade every year or every other year. And they do force you to upgrade anytime you buy a new camera (at least one with a different sensor!). (Yes, I know there are ways around it using DNG, but I am not a fan of too many processing steps.)


You paid $60/year for old technology. The upgrades from CS5 to CS6 were significant, and from CS6 to what there is in the current Ps CC 2015 is another leap. And no, they don't "force" you to upgrade every time you buy a new camera. I own CS6 and I it still supports the latest version of ACR with no need to buy anything more. That said, the features introduced in CC over CS6 make "renting" the software more than worth it.
05/23/2016 07:41:39 PM · #2
Originally posted by tanguera:

At the moment, it is still more program than I can handle, so the constant upgrading game doesn't apply to me.

On the contrary, by and large the upgrades make the program easier to use whilst still producing superior results...
05/23/2016 07:30:57 PM · #3
Originally posted by Neil:

As far as the program calling in, there's a period of time you can be offline before the program needs to check your license info. I seem to recall it being 4 weeks, but it could be 2 weeks.

I think LR/CS CC are worth the $10 a month. I had upgraded LR and then decided a few months later to go with CC when they lowered the price, so I wasted a bit of money. But overall, it's cheaper to pay the $10 a month than upgrade every year or every other year. And they do force you to upgrade anytime you buy a new camera (at least one with a different sensor!). (Yes, I know there are ways around it using DNG, but I am not a fan of too many processing steps.)


I will most likely fall prey to the CC at some point, but I've managed to stave it off for the foreseeable future. At the moment, it is still more program than I can handle, so the constant upgrading game doesn't apply to me.
05/23/2016 07:11:37 PM · #4
As far as the program calling in, there's a period of time you can be offline before the program needs to check your license info. I seem to recall it being 4 weeks, but it could be 2 weeks.

I think LR/CS CC are worth the $10 a month. I had upgraded LR and then decided a few months later to go with CC when they lowered the price, so I wasted a bit of money. But overall, it's cheaper to pay the $10 a month than upgrade every year or every other year. And they do force you to upgrade anytime you buy a new camera (at least one with a different sensor!). (Yes, I know there are ways around it using DNG, but I am not a fan of too many processing steps.)
05/19/2016 11:31:40 AM · #5
Originally posted by JakeKurdsjuk:

Originally posted by GeneralE:

You know, the subscription model not only costs the monthly fee, but also the cost of constantly upgrading hardware and operating systems and internet access -- something a large proportion of the population (or at least one person I know of!) simply can't afford. If I wanted to use the current version of PS I'd have to spend at least several hundred dollars replacing otherwise-working equipment.

FWIW I do most of my editing in PS 5.0 (appropriately code-named "Strange Cargo"), released May, 1988 ...


AFAIK you don't have to upgrade if they surpass your hardware capabilities. I stay several releases behind sometimes because of the way each new release seems to break something. I don't know at what point what you have might stop working even if you're paying the fee, but like I said you've got 5 years of monthly fees before you even hit the break even on Ps, and another year to add the Lr component. Chances are your computer will give up the ghost before then.


That depends. I bought CS5 in 2011 for $299 (Promotion), so that's waaayyy cheaper than CC. That works out to $60/year and lowering as I type :)

I will be holding off on going to CC for as long as I can, which I expect will be when I upgrade to a camera that my version of ACR no longer supports. I haven't had any issues as far as capabilities go, and I don't use it enough at this point to justify the ongoing fee. I hope I can get it down another $10-20/year before that happens. I also lucked out in that the Canadian dollar was close to par when I bought, that $9.99/mth right now will cost me $13.12/mth, which just makes thing even worse.
05/14/2016 12:50:31 PM · #6
disconnect form the internet and try it.
05/13/2016 05:49:47 PM · #7
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Message edited by author 2016-05-13 17:50:24.
05/13/2016 05:44:47 PM · #8
Originally posted by aliqui:

Originally posted by tanguera:

Originally posted by GeneralE:

Originally posted by JakeKurdsjuk:

Chances are your computer will give up the ghost before then.

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Wow!


Curious, what kind of kick ass games does Isaac have in his folder?

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Swing and BongoGame are standalone programs themed on the movie "George of the Jungle" (recommended) while the others need a CD-ROM ... these were from when he was two -- he's playing somewhat different games now ...

Message edited by author 2016-05-13 17:58:39.
05/13/2016 04:39:09 PM · #9
Originally posted by tanguera:

Originally posted by GeneralE:

Originally posted by JakeKurdsjuk:

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Wow!


Curious, what kind of kick ass games does Isaac have in his folder?
05/13/2016 04:22:12 PM · #10
Originally posted by GeneralE:

Originally posted by JakeKurdsjuk:

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Wow!
05/13/2016 04:20:05 PM · #11
Originally posted by JakeKurdsjuk:

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05/13/2016 03:23:29 PM · #12
Originally posted by Mond:

Originally posted by JakeKurdsjuk:

They're just a horrible company.


The clue is in the name. It's a dried out brick.


LOL!!!!
05/13/2016 03:23:01 PM · #13
Not to mention that once you give up your resident program, you are subject to whatever nonsense they decide to do: raise the price, etc., etc.

Finally managed to get Chat help. Apparently, it doesn't work on Chrome... I've gotten the program installed on my computer and they're helping me install it on my laptop.

I'm not yet ready to go to CC. I just can't get behind the concept.
05/13/2016 02:46:59 PM · #14
Originally posted by GeneralE:

You know, the subscription model not only costs the monthly fee, but also the cost of constantly upgrading hardware and operating systems and internet access -- something a large proportion of the population (or at least one person I know of!) simply can't afford. If I wanted to use the current version of PS I'd have to spend at least several hundred dollars replacing otherwise-working equipment.

FWIW I do most of my editing in PS 5.0 (appropriately code-named "Strange Cargo"), released May, 1988 ...


AFAIK you don't have to upgrade if they surpass your hardware capabilities. I stay several releases behind sometimes because of the way each new release seems to break something. I don't know at what point what you have might stop working even if you're paying the fee, but like I said you've got 5 years of monthly fees before you even hit the break even on Ps, and another year to add the Lr component. Chances are your computer will give up the ghost before then.
05/13/2016 01:48:57 PM · #15
Originally posted by JakeKurdsjuk:

They're just a horrible company.


The clue is in the name. It's a dried out brick.
05/13/2016 01:48:41 PM · #16
You know, the subscription model not only costs the monthly fee, but also the cost of constantly upgrading hardware and operating systems and internet access -- something a large proportion of the population (or at least one person I know of!) simply can't afford. If I wanted to use the current version of PS I'd have to spend at least several hundred dollars replacing otherwise-working equipment.

FWIW I do most of my editing in PS 5.0 (appropriately code-named "Strange Cargo"), released May, 1988 ...
05/13/2016 01:22:43 PM · #17
Originally posted by Tiberius:

I could not find anything that cold replace PS, even though I use just a fraction of what can do...
Just as ' . substr('//www.dpchallenge.com/images/user_icon/user_id/30861.gif', strrpos('//www.dpchallenge.com/images/user_icon/user_id/30861.gif', '/') + 1) . ' Bear_Music said for US$10/months for both is hard to beat. Don't get me wrong, took me a long while to decide to sign up for it...


+1

When 500px added the Adobe L/R-CC package to their membership for just $3pm extra, that's when my principles took a hike.
05/13/2016 12:26:34 PM · #18
Originally posted by tanguera:

Originally posted by CNovack:

Sorry to hear about the lack of tech support Johanna - been in that boat with different services and it is beyond frustrating dealing with the runaround these 'outsourced customer service' give you.

Maybe this number listed on the GetHuman site might help (this looks to be for Adobe given the comments listed and the average wait time for the phone number listed is 3 minutes at the corporate center call hours
https://gethuman.com/phone-number/Adobe-Systems

E-mail might be another option:

(https://helpx.adobe.com/tech-comm-suite/customer-support.html from webpage: Contact the Adobe Tech Comm support team by email at tcssup@adobe.com )

Hope you can get someone there to help you.


I'll report back :) Thanks


Looking at email address "tcssup@adobe.com", I dont think you will get any better help, as far as I know the folks over there are of no use. They just follow the scripts anything goes off, they say, we dont know or will never respond :D
05/13/2016 10:38:40 AM · #19
Originally posted by CNovack:

Sorry to hear about the lack of tech support Johanna - been in that boat with different services and it is beyond frustrating dealing with the runaround these 'outsourced customer service' give you.

Maybe this number listed on the GetHuman site might help (this looks to be for Adobe given the comments listed and the average wait time for the phone number listed is 3 minutes at the corporate center call hours
https://gethuman.com/phone-number/Adobe-Systems

E-mail might be another option:

(https://helpx.adobe.com/tech-comm-suite/customer-support.html from webpage: Contact the Adobe Tech Comm support team by email at tcssup@adobe.com )

Hope you can get someone there to help you.


I'll report back :) Thanks
05/13/2016 07:31:18 AM · #20
Originally posted by Lydia:

At least we're getting paid more than the $20 a month for Photoshop that I am unwilling to pay, although Hubby does... and... never uses it.


PS/LR are $9.99/month. Not that that's "better", but when you consider that it takes 5 years to cover the initial cost of CS6 alone, it's really not a bad deal. They're just a horrible company.
05/13/2016 03:34:01 AM · #21
Get some computer skilled gezzer/ gal to do it for you.
05/13/2016 01:02:04 AM · #22
And then, the day I miss a payment because of one reason or another, I don't have access to my files....

And when they change the rules or raise the price, or do anything unilaterally that I cannot fight, and there is no other option...?

The thing of it is, if they're not going to support the legacy versions, and if you can't get support, or anything else, then why don't they allow you to install it? Why all the contortionist product keys. etc.?

I'm seriously miffed.
05/13/2016 12:19:51 AM · #23
Originally posted by tanguera:

I'll mount another assault on Adobe tomorrow. I'm really resisting the CC, Bear. It's the principle of the thing.

The *peinciple* of the thing is perfectly reasonable as far as I'm concerned. Realistically, keeping Photoshop up to date has cost me at least a 100 bucks a year on average over the years I've owned it, I'm sure of that. 10 bucks a month is painless, and they are constantly improving the program, it's been a terrific experience. But I guess you're stubborn? Heck, I *know* you're stubborn :-)
05/13/2016 12:13:22 AM · #24
I could not find anything that cold replace PS, even though I use just a fraction of what can do...
Just as ' . substr('//www.dpchallenge.com/images/user_icon/user_id/30861.gif', strrpos('//www.dpchallenge.com/images/user_icon/user_id/30861.gif', '/') + 1) . ' Bear_Music said for US$10/months for both is hard to beat. Don't get me wrong, took me a long while to decide to sign up for it...
05/13/2016 12:09:57 AM · #25
Originally posted by Tiberius:

Originally posted by salmiakki:

Originally posted by tanguera:

I am seriously considering jumping ship to Capture One.

I like it better than LR.


LR worked fine for her. She needs PS...

Still not a bad option
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