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10/08/2004 07:37:09 PM · #1 |
I'm considering switching from Nikon to Canon for several reasons.
Anybody have some real input?
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10/08/2004 07:39:50 PM · #2 |
Eric,
What do you see as the biggest reasons for the switch? Are you considering the 1DS II or 1D II for your wedding work? |
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10/08/2004 07:47:18 PM · #3 |
I'd need more data from you on specifics. My personal biggest reason for switching would be image quality at high ISO. But before I would make that move I'd want to see what the images out of the D2X look like.
Got some specifics we can help you with?
Clara |
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10/08/2004 07:53:52 PM · #4 |
You'll find plenty of other pro photographers who've come to that same conclusion. (See pictures like this...)
Some threads that might help make your decision easier...
One: ``Is the grass really greener on the other side?''
"Unfortunately yes, it is much greener. My guess would be that 3/4ths of the pros on this forum where once Nikon shooters & there are innumerous threads on switching."
Two: "I've finally had to bite the bullet and accept that Nikon if falling way behind Canon in camera technologies and I'm going to have to make the switch to Canon to meet the needs I have"
Three: "I never thought I'd say it, but you guys win. I've been a loyal Nikon user since day one. But with the huge dissappointment that is the D2h, I am considering jumping ship. . ."
Four: "I am interested in making the switch from Nikon to Canon. I have a huge Nikon Kit along with several Leica M cameras. Several photographers I know have started using the 1Ds and are very happy"
Five: "I was a Nikon user for over twenty-years."
"I was in the same boat a few months ago. I have been shooting Nikons starting with the FM2 I bought in high school in 1985, so I was reluctant to switch. However, now that I did, I'm very happy with the decision."
"I made the switch almost a year ago after a 25 year stint with Nikon Mount camera's . Never been happier but the bottom line is Nikon has not done anything to REALLY compete in the pro arena with digital."
"I'm another old-timer that stayed with Nikons for far too long."
"I have used the Nikon SLR system for 30+ years, culminating with the D1. I started a Canon system with a 10D less than a year ago. In both systems, practically all my lenses are top-of-the-line. I still have all my Nikon equipment. .... Bottom line, right now, when I have a choice I grab Canon. Most likely, I'll be saying adios to Nikon later this year."
Note that these comments are all from folks who make their living at photography...
Don't think you'll be disappointed. =]
Message edited by author 2004-10-08 20:06:04. |
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10/08/2004 08:28:38 PM · #5 |
It's true, it's true!
I just jumped ship, not from Nikon though but from far superior brand.
I sold my Fuji Finepix s602Zoom and now have a Canon 10D.
I know its out dated by the 20D but it will have to do for a while.
My 10D is AMASON old camera, he sold it to me to buy the 20D.
It's funny how you miss your old camera, almost wet my eyes!
Just Do It!
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10/08/2004 08:47:42 PM · #6 |
Originally posted by siggi:
It's true, it's true!
I just jumped ship, not from Nikon though but from far superior brand.
I sold my Fuji Finepix s602Zoom and now have a Canon 10D.
I know its out dated by the 20D but it will have to do for a while.
My 10D is AMASON old camera, he sold it to me to buy the 20D.
It's funny how you miss your old camera, almost wet my eyes!
Just Do It! |
True, true... It wasn't an easy thing to do to let go of my partner for more than a year, I really miss my 10D... But me and my 20D are getting knowing each other better and better and I'm sure that it will become a good partner as the time will pass... but I'll never forget the great pal, 10D... it was so quiet and, and... sniff...
-.clickk (much louder now in the 20D)
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10/08/2004 08:59:39 PM · #7 |
Here's a few reasons:
nikon has no plans for producing a full frame sensor in the near future. I don't want to invest several thousand dollars on dx lenses to compensate for the 1.5 multiplier effect. I want to be able to shoot chromes and digital without carrying 6+ lenses.
I can sell all of my used nikon equipment, and buy exactly the same canon equipment brand new.
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10/08/2004 09:00:37 PM · #8 |
"According to Canon contract photographer and factory spokesmodel Arthur Morris, the Nikon F5 is the world's best camera. He told us so in person in January 2001. If someone that Canon spiffs to push Canon cameras tell you this, you ought to believe him."
//www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/f5.htm
I believe canon digital is ahead slightly...but nikon film cameras are great. It's not like if you have a canon, you spontaneously have this power to create amazing photographs. I feel like im beating a dead horse here. |
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10/08/2004 09:02:48 PM · #9 |
"I see no reason for CCDs to bother with the old 35mm size, nor does Nikon as far as we've seen. Since Nikon makes short lenses for the smaller sensors of DSLRs unlike anyone else I see no reason to bother with the old size. You could pay $8,000 for the old-CCD-size Canon 1Ds, or one-eighth as much for a shorter lens for a Nikon to get the same wide angle views."
"I don't want to invest several thousand dollars on dx lenses to compensate for the 1.5 multiplier effect."
Do you want to invest several thousdand for a full-frame body?
Big ccds are expensive. :(
Message edited by author 2004-10-08 21:04:26. |
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10/08/2004 09:32:11 PM · #10 |
I sincerely believe it's all about what you want. Both companies are fantastic, and I don't think you could go wrong with either. There's a lot of Canon support, so here's a phtographer who's into Nikon. You can read his personal comparison here:
//www.imagepower.de/IMAGES/imgEQUIPMENT/D2H.htm
Thom Hogan is another pro who uses Nikon, his opinions are here:
//www.bythom.com
It's really all about you. |
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10/08/2004 10:00:28 PM · #11 |
I have my own axe to gring with Nikon, but for what it is worth.
If you ask a technofile -- Canon.
If you ask a glass snob - Nikon.
At the end of the day, what is it about for you?
Glass or Technology?
There you go. It's that easy.
BTW - I'm more of a Glass Snob then Technofile, but I'd love some more technology if I could get it.
Message edited by author 2004-10-08 22:06:11. |
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10/08/2004 10:01:44 PM · #12 |
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10/08/2004 10:06:33 PM · #13 |
Originally posted by gorke:
"I see no reason for CCDs to bother with the old 35mm size, nor does Nikon as far as we've seen. Since Nikon makes short lenses for the smaller sensors of DSLRs unlike anyone else I see no reason to bother with the old size. You could pay $8,000 for the old-CCD-size Canon 1Ds, or one-eighth as much for a shorter lens for a Nikon to get the same wide angle views."
"I don't want to invest several thousand dollars on dx lenses to compensate for the 1.5 multiplier effect."
Do you want to invest several thousdand for a full-frame body?
Big ccds are expensive. :( |
Isn't this exactly what Canon is doing by introducing their new EF-S line? Smaller lenses down to 10mm (17mm in 35mm eq) that support only the canon cameras with the 1.6x crop?
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10/08/2004 10:18:18 PM · #14 |
Originally posted by DJLuba:
I have my own axe to gring with Nikon, but for what it is worth.
If you ask a technofile -- Canon.
If you ask a glass snob - Nikon.
At the end of the day, what is it about for you?
Glass or Technology?
There you go. It's that easy.
BTW - I'm more of a Glass Snob then Technofile, but I'd love some more technology if I could get it. |
hey i'm a technofile and i went nikon! :)
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10/08/2004 10:22:55 PM · #15 |
Originally posted by jxpfeer:
hey i'm a technofile and i went nikon! :) |
Ahhhh... talk to EddyG. He will set you straight on why Canon takes Nikon to the curb on technology. Nikon is a good 2yrs behind the curve here. |
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10/08/2004 10:59:35 PM · #16 |
Originally posted by gorke:
"According to Canon contract photographer and factory spokesmodel Arthur Morris, the Nikon F5 is the world's best camera. He told us so in person in January 2001. If someone that Canon spiffs to push Canon cameras tell you this, you ought to believe him."
//www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/f5.htm
I believe canon digital is ahead slightly...but nikon film cameras are great. It's not like if you have a canon, you spontaneously have this power to create amazing photographs. I feel like im beating a dead horse here. |
I shoot with a D100 and an F5
I love my F5, but think upgrading to a Mark 1Ds II as my sole camera might be the best decision seeing where the market is going. More and more clients want digital instead of chromes, even the large stock agents (corbis, getty) want 30mb+ digital files. And getting drum scans of slides costs $30+ each.
This is why I'm veering towards selling everything and starting over.
Message edited by author 2004-10-08 23:00:24.
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10/08/2004 11:10:34 PM · #17 |
Well it seems you have already made your decision. If you want a full frame DSLR you have no choice but to go with Canon, unless you go to Medium Format Digital backs which cost 2-3x the price of a Canon 1Ds II. Nikon is not there yet with big sensors and big files. So I you need these big files then Canon is the only player in town.
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10/08/2004 11:20:50 PM · #18 |
| Now I know I'm throwing this out to a bunch of professionals here, but I'll say it anyway. If you're going to buy all new glass for a whole new system, why not consider the 4/3rds system by Olympus? The pros on DPReview seem very happy with the E-system so far, the lenses are smaller, albeit there's a 2x crop factor, but they claim that wide angles are sharp edege to edge, corner to corner, and there's better dynamic range. Olympus puts out L quality glass, and though there isn't such a big stable of lenses out now, they have plans for releasing 5 or 6 new lenses in the coming year, as are Sigma. The lenses aren't cheap though, but then again Canon L lenses aren't either. And, you wouldn't have to worry about dust! You could keep your Nikon stuff for the time being and then invest slowly in the new Olympus system. Ok, I'm done, you can start throwing curses and slurs now...lol |
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10/09/2004 04:50:41 AM · #19 |
Originally posted by jxpfeer:
Hey, I'm a technofile and I went Nikon! |
I see you're using the D70, and in that price range you're looking at either the D70 or the Rebel, and between those two, Nikon is superior.
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10/09/2004 06:08:37 AM · #20 |
| If you are looking for a change, but don't want to have to completely re-equip, the new Fuji S3 is something to consider as well. It's easy to forget there are companies other than Canon and Nikon making cameras. |
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10/09/2004 06:18:44 AM · #21 |
Originally posted by livingfiction:
If you are looking for a change, but don't want to have to completely re-equip, the new Fuji S3 is something to consider as well. It's easy to forget there are companies other than Canon and Nikon making cameras. |
True - but dont forget the Fuji S1/2/3 are all Nikon bodies.
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10/09/2004 06:38:41 AM · #22 |
Originally posted by Olyuzi:
why not consider the 4/3rds system by Olympus? |
If Eric wants the camera partially for stock, surely the current E cameras are too low res?
Also, although it is possible to get a convertor for the E cameras, they don't natively support Olympus' M series lenses, and Eric wants to be able to shoot chromes and digital.
Message edited by author 2004-10-09 06:42:27.
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10/09/2004 06:52:40 AM · #23 |
Originally posted by PaulMdx:
Originally posted by Olyuzi:
why not consider the 4/3rds system by Olympus? |
If Eric wants the camera partially for stock, surely the current E cameras are too low res?
Also, although it is possible to get a convertor for the E cameras, they don't natively support Olympus' M series lenses, and Eric wants to be able to shoot chromes and digital. |
Well, as far as the resolution goes, it's been kicked about in the DPReview forums that a new professional E system camera will be coming out next year with 10+ MP. The E3 supposed to be announced in Feb 05. The E system lenses are certainly supposed to be smaller and lighter than other 35mm lenses, and that's why I thought to suggest it. |
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10/09/2004 07:06:17 AM · #24 |
Originally posted by siggi:
It's true, it's true!
I just jumped ship, not from Nikon though but from far superior brand.
I sold my Fuji Finepix s602Zoom and now have a Canon 10D.
I know its out dated by the 20D but it will have to do for a while.
My 10D is AMASON old camera, he sold it to me to buy the 20D.
It's funny how you miss your old camera, almost wet my eyes!
Just Do It! |
Amason have hooked you on the angel Siggi. Congrats on your new camera. |
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10/09/2004 07:28:13 AM · #25 |
| I like Nikon because you can use lenses that were made in the 50's on any Nikon body because the mount remains the same. Try that with Canon. of cause there are many arguments about who is best and blah blah blah but surely at the end of the day the most important thing is the guy/girl behind the camera. I chose Nikon because living in Japan there is a lot more selection in the 2nd hand market for Nikon cameras I believe the reason for this is they remain consistant with the mounting I have several very old Nikon lenses as used by my father-in-law who was a professional photographer for 30 years (still trying to get his Nikon F from him) all his old top quality lenses still fit the modern camera of today. The difference in quality between these 2 giants is quite minimal. I have shot with both Canon and Nikon and chose Nikon. |
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