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10/20/2015 01:24:51 PM · #26
Originally posted by NikonJeb:

Originally posted by tanguera:

[b]There already IS a fix: leave anonymous comments.

You mean the "Hidden during Voting" thing? You are still "Exposed" when voting ends, and if the person is still pissed off, well....


Has never happened. The angry PMs are in-the-moment knee-jerk reactions. By the time roll-over comes around, either they've calmed down, had a chance to reconsider, or had other comments that point out the same thing.

While I wholeheartedly endorse "honest" feedback, I do NOT advocate rudeness, meanspiritedness, or derogatory language. It is as much a choice to be honest yet tempered as it is to be honest and brutal.
10/20/2015 02:14:21 PM · #27
I would like to thank stevieian for taking this thread to heart. I just got comments on Re-Orientation and Diagonal over lunch.
10/20/2015 10:31:30 PM · #28
Originally posted by MichaelC:

Had a quiet spot this afternoon so decided to comment on every entry in the Re-Orientation challenge. I called 'em as I see 'em and tried not to be offensive but I suppose that depends on the thickness of the reader's skin, after 10 years here mine has grown quite thick.

Sometimes, we receive comments from people who intend to insult and offend, with zero common sense and sensitivity. It must be a cultural or geographical deficit to be generally mean-spirited and stupid. Of course, I'm not aiming this comment at anyone in particular.
10/20/2015 11:11:13 PM · #29
I guess I am part of the problem. I have been kind of burned out on DPC lately. Haven't been entering much, nor commenting a lot. Not doing as much photography overall, either. At some point the motivation will pick up again.
10/21/2015 01:43:49 AM · #30
I've thought a little about why I don't participate at DPC much any more... The usual suspects come to mind: more options on the interwebs, children and the activities they bring, less time due to work, etc. etc. etc.

I still enjoy shooting but what I've realized over the last few months is that I rarely browse the internet with my desktop. Even on the handful of photo sites I watch, it's almost exclusively done on my iphone. 500px, flickr, 1x(rarely), fb, etc. All smart phone friendly or friendlier than DPC. Flickr just one big back rub where even the most pedestrian photos will receive copious congratulatory comments and rotating giffy bling.

DPC is still the best(and only?) site where people will actually give honest feedback. Personally, I've never had an angry or bitter PM or response to one of my comments, even where I've been constructively critical. Have I moved beyond DPC? Not really, but it also isn't as convenient to participate in a mobile world as what it could be. The rationale for limiting voting to desktops makes sense but I would love to see a more mobile friendly site design. The community here is without a doubt the one of the best around. So many positives, but the platform is tired.
10/21/2015 12:12:14 PM · #31
Nevermind ... just cause heartburn. I'll revisit it later. :-)

Message edited by author 2015-10-21 12:36:18.
10/21/2015 12:43:36 PM · #32
Thank you markwiley ! I was aiming to put my money where my mouth is ... :)
10/21/2015 04:40:14 PM · #33
Originally posted by hahn23:

Originally posted by MichaelC:

Had a quiet spot this afternoon so decided to comment on every entry in the Re-Orientation challenge. I called 'em as I see 'em and tried not to be offensive but I suppose that depends on the thickness of the reader's skin, after 10 years here mine has grown quite thick.

Sometimes, we receive comments from people who intend to insult and offend, with zero common sense and sensitivity. It must be a cultural or geographical deficit to be generally mean-spirited and stupid. Of course, I'm not aiming this comment at anyone in particular.


And sometimes, people overlay their own sensitivities onto innocuous comments they receive, taking offence where none was meant. I'm reminded of the General's guidance a few months ago - pointing to the 'assume good faith' clause in the forums rules. Although the giving of comments isn't done in a forum, we could do at lot worse than assume good faith in relation to the comments we receive too.
10/25/2015 07:07:09 PM · #34
One vote and zero comments on any of my entries all weekend. Oh dear.
10/25/2015 07:40:04 PM · #35
That's strange because I have voted and commented on 100% of the entries of the last 4 challenges that I haven't entered (which is only 1)
10/25/2015 07:43:11 PM · #36
Originally posted by MichaelC:

That's strange because I have voted and commented on 100% of the entries of the last 4 challenges that I haven't entered (which is only 1)


I have your comment but you made it a few days ago. I haven't had a new comment on anything since Thursday.
10/25/2015 10:42:45 PM · #37
Originally posted by hahn23:

Originally posted by MichaelC:

Had a quiet spot this afternoon so decided to comment on every entry in the Re-Orientation challenge. I called 'em as I see 'em and tried not to be offensive but I suppose that depends on the thickness of the reader's skin, after 10 years here mine has grown quite thick.

Sometimes, we receive comments from people who intend to insult and offend, with zero common sense and sensitivity. It must be a cultural or geographical deficit to be generally mean-spirited and stupid. Of course, I'm not aiming this comment at anyone in particular.


Making comments is not so easy. And, in general, it's at least as good to make as to receive, maybe better.
10/26/2015 09:18:46 PM · #38
It appears some members do not quite understand how entering a challenge on DPC works. I say this as I have received a PM requesting me NOT to comment on their pictures. Unfortunately they neglected to say whether they:
* just wanted ME to stop commenting or everybody
* just want to stop perceived negative comments but positives were ok

It should be pointed out that when a member's challenge entry is displayed for voting that there is a commenting box underneath and therefore there is a small chance it may receive comments. Should you wish not to receive comments on your challenge entries may I respectfully suggest the following:

* petition the site's admins to remove or make optional the comment functionality
* do not display your images in a site designed for votes and comments
* pm me which entry is yours and I'll be only too glad to comply and not leave a comment (limited to the 1st 10 only per challenge)

If I may offer the following advice re my comments:
* it is only 1 person's opinion
* as it is anonymous it cannot be construed as a personal attack on the photographer
* if the image finished with a lower score than desired then re-read the comment
* if the image finished with a satisfactory score then ignore the comment
10/26/2015 09:41:01 PM · #39
FWIW, some individuals have already petitioned to request a 'do not comment box' and were not granted it.

Have you considered commenting only when the photo compels you to do so? Sometimes, comments given simply to fill out a predetermined % can have greater potential to rub the wrong way.

Also, consider reading:

//www.dpchallenge.com/tutorial.php?TUTORIAL_ID=74

and

//www.dpchallenge.com/tutorial.php?TUTORIAL_ID=73

(especially the first one)

Good luck.

10/26/2015 09:56:06 PM · #40
The request is a little ridiculous given that you don't know whose images are whose during the challenge.

I don't always agree with comments, but I appreciate that someone at least stayed on my image long enough to think to write something about it. I tend to only comment when I find an image that I want to really like, but it's not quite what I believe it could be (usually 5's or 6's that I think could be 7's or 8's). My assessment won't always be constructive from the artist's point of view, but I'd rather have someone tell me why they feel I missed the mark instead of just throwing a low number at it and moving on.
10/26/2015 10:03:55 PM · #41
Originally posted by MichaelC:

It appears some members do not quite understand how entering a challenge on DPC works. I say this as I have received a PM requesting me NOT to comment on their pictures. . . .


And then skewsme says, "Have you considered commenting only when the photo compels you to do so? Sometimes, comments given simply to fill out a predetermined % can have greater potential to rub the wrong way."

I'm sorry, but I just do not believe this. I don't mean I think you are lying about receiving this PM, MichaelC. I mean I can't believe anyone wrote to say this. And I can't believe someone essentially supported it by suggesting you cut way back on your comments. We bitch and bitch and bitch about not getting comments and then someone complains when one comes in?? Come on, folks!

10/26/2015 10:04:47 PM · #42
yes, what skews says.

the whole POINT of this place is to to sample the water, not to predetermine the temperature.

EVERYTHING, comments AND/OR votes, is grist for the mill.

Message edited by author 2015-10-26 22:05:17.
10/26/2015 10:15:29 PM · #43
I've got to say, I'm simply amazed by what I'm reading here.
10/26/2015 10:16:27 PM · #44
Originally posted by tnun:

yes, what skews says.

the whole POINT of this place is to to sample the water, not to predetermine the temperature.

EVERYTHING, comments AND/OR votes, is grist for the mill.


Love the imagery in this, care to elaborate.
10/26/2015 10:57:12 PM · #45
I just don't see the point in complaining about a comment.
10/26/2015 11:11:06 PM · #46
Originally posted by tnun:

I just don't see the point in complaining about a comment.


I must be missing something.
10/27/2015 08:57:22 AM · #47
I give in, I will now follow the trend and neither vote nor comment.
10/27/2015 12:13:00 PM · #48
Originally posted by Tiny:

I give in, I will now follow the trend and neither vote nor comment.


this isn't good.
10/27/2015 01:06:53 PM · #49
Originally posted by MichaelC:

It appears some members do not quite understand how entering a challenge on DPC works. I say this as I have received a PM requesting me NOT to comment on their pictures.

Sorry.......IMNSHO this is a person who definitely does NOT belong here.

Obviously, first and foremost, they don't have a clue about the community. Secondly, they have no idea what the original intent of the site was all about. Third, if they ndo not want comments, why on earth would you display an image at all?
10/27/2015 01:09:18 PM · #50
Originally posted by tnun:

I just don't see the point in complaining about a comment.

Oh, I can *always* complain about a comment.....I just don't because there simply are no hard and fast guidelines that would cover the wide range of reasons why people give comments. I take what I can get, for the most part gladly. I *always* apreciate it that someone took the time to single my image out and speak to me.
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