Teams with a positive W-L season

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07/27/2015 08:02:13 PM · #1

Teams with a winning season should be included in the playoffs. After all, there were no restrictions on which members could form a team. Now, teams which managed to win more matches than they lost should be allowed to compete in the playoffs. It's only fair.

skewsme

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07/27/2015 10:22:47 PM · #2

Teams with batsh*t crazy awful records should be in the playoffs too. Because people need underdogs to root for. And plus we're bored. Wooof.

Melethia

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07/27/2015 10:42:11 PM · #3

Everybody gets a medal. Right? That's the only reason I did this. So I could get a medal!

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Ja-9

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07/27/2015 11:09:40 PM · #4

Originally posted by Melethia:

Everybody gets a medal. Right? That's the only reason I did this. So I could get a medal!

+1 wooof

Tiny

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07/28/2015 03:22:53 AM · #5

Originally posted by skewsme:

Teams with batsh*t crazy awful records should be in the playoffs too. Because people need underdogs to root for. And plus we're bored. Wooof.

+1 wooof

JakeKurdsjuk

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07/28/2015 06:33:36 AM · #6

So this is hockey now, eh?

tate

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07/28/2015 07:46:13 AM · #7

HAHAHA ...

With only 2 weeks of playoffs, I'm guessing only the top of each division will make it.
The good news is though, you can still win ribbons, accolades (and medals!?) even if you are not in DPL! =D

Originally posted by skewsme:

Teams with batsh*t crazy awful records should be in the playoffs too. Because people need underdogs to root for. And plus we're bored. Wooof.

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07/28/2015 07:47:44 AM · #8

Originally posted by hahn23:

After all, there were no restrictions on which members could form a team.

actually there were. the initial team percentage had to be under a certain number.

RyanW

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07/28/2015 07:50:32 AM · #9

Originally posted by Mike:

Originally posted by hahn23:
After all, there were no restrictions on which members could form a team.

actually there were. the initial team percentage had to be under a certain number.

ahhh, so that's why I was a first round draft pick! ;)

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07/28/2015 08:01:12 AM · #10

Originally posted by RyanW:

Originally posted by Mike:

Originally posted by hahn23:
After all, there were no restrictions on which members could form a team.

actually there were. the initial team percentage had to be under a certain number.

ahhh, so that's why I was a first round draft pick! ;)

yes, its like having the requirement that a certain number of women have to play on a softball team.

Melethia

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07/28/2015 09:09:40 AM · #11

Originally posted by Mike:

Originally posted by hahn23:
After all, there were no restrictions on which members could form a team.

actually there were. the initial team percentage had to be under a certain number.

What was that number? I don't recall seeing that anywhere, that's why I'm asking.

Message edited by author 2015-07-28 09:12:15.

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07/28/2015 09:16:32 AM · #12

i dont see it in the rules and I deleted my PM from before the DPL started but i remember our team making sure we didnt go over a certain percentage when we were selecting members.

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tate

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07/28/2015 09:25:08 AM · #13

I think it was put out there in a thread somewhere that there would be no "ribbon hog" type teams allowed. I'm not sure they came up with an exact percentage, but I could be wrong.

Originally posted by Melethia:

What was that number? I don't recall seeing that anywhere, that's why I'm asking.

07/28/2015 09:36:30 AM · #14

Originally posted by Mike:

i dont see it in the rules and I deleted my PM from before the DPL started but i remember our team making sure we didnt go over a certain percentage when we were selecting members.

Maybe some restriction was applied in a previous DPL or TPL, but I think DPL3 allowed the powerful and popular members to coalesce. It's self evident. So what!

However, if the eventual top teams were a fait accompli, then it is only fair to open up the playoffs to other teams that had a successful season in spite of the inbalance.

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07/28/2015 09:50:56 AM · #15

we are 4-0 and in second place. I'm pretty confidant our team wasn't put together in the manner that you suggest.

tate

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07/28/2015 09:53:54 AM · #16

Just logistically, a scenario that allowed for all "winning" teams into the playoffs would most likely involve a runoff and at bare minimum at least 3 playoff rounds in order to come up with a winner. Not that I am at all against that - but the schedule only shows 2 more rounds.

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07/28/2015 10:02:12 AM · #17

how about a loser's bracket?

JakeKurdsjuk

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07/28/2015 10:03:00 AM · #18

Originally posted by hahn23:

Originally posted by Mike:
i dont see it in the rules and I deleted my PM from before the DPL started but i remember our team making sure we didnt go over a certain percentage when we were selecting members.

Maybe some restriction was applied in a previous DPL or TPL, but I think DPL3 allowed the powerful and popular members to coalesce. It's self evident. So what!

However, if the eventual top teams were a fait accompli, then it is only fair to open up the playoffs to other teams that had a successful season in spite of the inbalance.

I smell some very sour grapes here. VERY sour. "Fait accompli"?! Really?!?!

Speaking for my team, we were the #2 ranked team in our division, so my argument could end there. But let me continue.

I cannot comment on how well other teams worked together, but I have watched as teammates have worked hard both individually and as a team, encouraging each other while being open to serious input on personal images. Everyone has upped their game, posting high marks in challenges that they had considered skipping and wouldn't have participated in had the league not been in play.

We've taken 7 ribbons so far, so does that make us "ribbon hogs"?! Well, our two Blues were taken by members who had combined for only a single Blue in 200 challenges leading up to the DPL. Of our 9 team members, 8 have contributed a score. 3 of our top 4 seeded members going into the league are technically "under-performing" (their DPL average is below their Seed average).

And just to be clear, the core of this team was randomly grouped together for last year's TPL - something we didn't come close to winning.

Think what you want, but I couldn't be prouder of this team and what they've been able to put together. They've inspired me to push myself every challenge, and that's what this thing is all about.

If your team couldn't rise to the occasion when the challenge topics were amazingly boring and out of your comfort zone (that was every week for us) then perhaps it's only fair that you ride the pine during the playoffs and think about how you'd do things differently next time?

Message edited by author 2015-07-28 10:16:56.

07/28/2015 10:14:14 AM · #19

Originally posted by backdoorhippie:

I smell some very sour grapes here. VERY sour. ...

It's not necessary to take the discussion to an insulting personal level. I resent your comments.

07/28/2015 10:16:17 AM · #20

If the system was unfair, you should have spoken up before or while teams were being put together, not after the season is over and your team didn't make the cut.

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07/28/2015 10:18:07 AM · #21

Originally posted by Mike:

If the system was unfair, you should have spoken up before or while teams were being put together, not after the season is over and your team didn't make the cut.

Are you talking to me?

JakeKurdsjuk

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07/28/2015 10:18:19 AM · #22

Originally posted by hahn23:

Originally posted by backdoorhippie:

I smell some very sour grapes here. VERY sour. ...

It's not necessary to take the discussion to an insulting personal level. I resent your comments.

And I resent your insinuation that our success was due to stacking the deck and not anything other than hard work, great collaboration and excellent photography.

Message edited by author 2015-07-28 10:19:00.

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07/28/2015 10:21:11 AM · #23

Originally posted by backdoorhippie:

Originally posted by hahn23:

Originally posted by backdoorhippie:

I smell some very sour grapes here. VERY sour. ...

It's not necessary to take the discussion to an insulting personal level. I resent your comments.

And I resent your insinuation that our success was due to stacking the deck and not anything other than hard work, great collaboration and excellent photography.

I rest my case.

skewsme

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07/28/2015 10:21:56 AM · #24

Originally posted by Mike:

how about a loser's bracket?

we prefer the term 'brownket'

why not just run a bunch of sudden death playoffs in parallel... ?