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02/03/2003 10:15:13 AM · #1
It seems that every week someone decides to discribe their photo in detail and talk about the injustice of voting. I can only think that a person would do that for sympathy vote. I understand and at times have voiced my frustration in the forum, but never have I, or will I discribe my photo. I think that a rule should be added so a DQ can be requested if a photo is discribed in the forum, during voting, which makes the photo recognizable by the discription (ie saying that your photo has a clown in it and there is only one clown in the current challenge.

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02/03/2003 10:16:45 AM · #2
But what if someone else mentions a photo with a clown in it, and it's not their photo but someone elses? That's not exactly fair.
02/03/2003 10:22:24 AM · #3
I used the words "their" and "your"

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02/03/2003 10:31:18 AM · #4
Oh, no, I understood what you meant, but what I'm saying is that as an impartial 3rd person I might reccomend it for DQ, since I don't know if it's yours or not (It could be, and you just say it isn't). Now, granted the admins know, but if talking about it is generally perceived to be against the rules (generally percieved, since it *wasn't* against the rules since it's not actually your photo) the voting public is going to mark it down (which is exactly the reverse of the pity points you were talking about).

Also, what is to stop me from having my friends talk about my photo for me?

Talking about a photo is taboo. There will also be people that flaunt that.
02/03/2003 10:31:35 AM · #5
From what I've seen, you'll usually see people talking about their pictures when they are new to the site. When this happens, the more seasoned users usually advise them to remove/edit their comments.

I think there should a section in the rules discouraging people from openly discussing their picture during the challenge.


02/03/2003 10:34:42 AM · #6
Originally posted by Jacko:

I think there should a section in the rules discouraging people from openly discussing their picture during the challenge.


That sounds like a much more reasonable suggestion. I would personally think this to be a good compromise. But if we add this section, again consider that people may mark down the photo, since talking about it is formally discouraged, rather than just something we've come to agree upon.
02/03/2003 10:45:27 AM · #7
If you are discussing the fact that I not only discribed my pictures but also gave the names of said photos then perhaps I didn't make myself clear. I fully expect to be disqualified, and rightfully so...What I was more interested in was how do I correct what I detect as a problem. I do not want to have what happened this week happen every time I turn in a challeng. No crybaby here, just someone who wants to get better.
02/03/2003 10:51:13 AM · #8
To the best of my knowledge anyway, we're not talking about you. I've seen lots of people talk about their photos, so no, I'm not talking about anyone in specific.
02/03/2003 11:21:43 AM · #9
I don't think anyone should get disqualified for talking about their pictures. Why? Monday morning, score 4.3. OK I think I'll talk about my photo in the forum, this way my score won't affect my average. Again, just a thought.
02/03/2003 11:22:09 AM · #10
also wheeler, people around here are already busy looking for ways to dq photos, there's no reason to add another way for people to request dqs
02/03/2003 11:22:28 AM · #11
Perhaps a better rule would be" No discussion of the challenge currentely being voted on"This would hopefully stop the petty squabbles like:the definition of a square,does that constitute a landscape,is that a cliche,then we can all vote without possible persuasive comments in forum
02/03/2003 11:27:22 AM · #12
Originally posted by Jacko:

I don't think anyone should get disqualified for talking about their pictures. Why? Monday morning, score 4.3. OK I think I'll talk about my photo in the forum, this way my score won't affect my average.


Good point Jacko.
02/03/2003 11:28:33 AM · #13
Originally posted by Freebie:

Perhaps a better rule would be" No discussion of the challenge currentely being voted on"This would hopefully stop the petty squabbles like:the definition of a square,does that constitute a landscape,is that a cliche,then we can all vote without possible persuasive comments in forum


i would agree with this but honestly sometimes it needs to be talked about because occasionally by talking it will broaden everyone's idea of the topic. like as in where's waldo, wally, wallace, whatever. to me it's hard to understand what's going on there. is there only supposed to be one person in the pic? or should there be many people with one person in the middle? and how will you point people to the person you are hiding, because if the person can't be found, the picture is pointless. sigh
02/03/2003 11:34:10 AM · #14
Originally posted by Freebie:

Perhaps a better rule would be" No discussion of the challenge currentely being voted on"This would hopefully stop the petty squabbles like:the definition of a square,does that constitute a landscape,is that a cliche,then we can all vote without possible persuasive comments in forum


the discussions usually happen during the week that people are trying to take pictures - as people try to come up with ideas, or what will work well. I wouldn't like to supress those discussions.
02/03/2003 12:32:45 PM · #15
Originally posted by achiral:

Originally posted by Freebie:

Perhaps a better rule would be" No discussion of the challenge currentely being voted on"This would hopefully stop the petty squabbles like:the definition of a square,does that constitute a landscape,is that a cliche,then we can all vote without possible persuasive comments in forum


i would agree with this but honestly sometimes it needs to be talked about because occasionally by talking it will broaden everyone's idea of the topic. like as in where's waldo, wally, wallace, whatever. to me it's hard to understand what's going on there. is there only supposed to be one person in the pic? or should there be many people with one person in the middle? and how will you point people to the person you are hiding, because if the person can't be found, the picture is pointless. sigh


I had a similar questions about the where's Waldo challenge. The point is to try and hide you person somewhere in the photo. What if the photographer does such a good job that viewers don't find their person eventhought they are there? Are viewers going to vote those images down because they don't think the picture met the challenge because there is no person in the photo? Just wondering. I can see this being another one of those things where no one knows just how to vote consistantly. Anyway... with that being said. From a photography challenge stand point, I think this is a great idea and will be great fun to do.

Thanks!
Bill Miller (wackybill)
02/03/2003 03:44:23 PM · #16
The more rules you have the less fun this becomes. There are already too many people looking to disqualify other’s pictures to make up for their personal lack of talent. I think that when people discuss their photos during the challenge there are a number of people here who vote them down just because these photos were discussed. It seems like when that happens the problem is already solved, why make more rules?

Just my 2 cents

Greg
02/03/2003 04:58:58 PM · #17
Just to clarify my earlier statement I said" currentely being voted on"
this does not preclude during the week your photo is taken.
Rules being made by people with lack of talent?every week the challenges are brim full of people with talent
02/03/2003 05:30:40 PM · #18
For what it is worth, I don't comment publicly on ny photo. I do, however, answer any legit questions that are posed to me by a commenter.
02/03/2003 05:52:05 PM · #19
Originally posted by dadas115:

There are already too many people looking to disqualify other’s pictures to make up for their personal lack of talent.


Do you have ANY evidence whatsoever for this slanderous remark?
02/03/2003 06:43:33 PM · #20
Maybe this should not matter to much, I mean... would you go and change your vote to a lower score if you could see that the owner of this "discriped" photo had sometime given you a bad comment or something like that???

talkin' about this I was wondering if one could be DQed for publishing his / her outtakes or even the final picture on his / her website? ... I personally am not voting on people, I'm trying to vote on pictures :)

Greeting from Iceland.
02/03/2003 07:32:58 PM · #21
How is it slanderous? I never mentioned anyone’s name or indicated anyone at all in particular. What I was saying is that it sure doesn’t hurt someone’s ranking when they can find some way to disqualify pictures that did better than theirs. You can take that to mean what you want. This is definitely not an attack on anyone in particular. If this happens to fit you then I guess go on and take offense, if it doesn’t then it’s nothing to get upset over. My point was that when you make too many rules the contest becomes like the legal system. You can’t do anything because you are all bogged down with worrying about what rule you are going to possibly be breaking.

Greg
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