reward system to improve participation

Canon EF-S 18-135mm IS STM

04/17/2015 09:13:55 AM · #1

I offer this idea to increase participation. a Lottery.

members only, $5 added to your yearly membership if you want to play, so its optional.

3 winners, we could do gift cards or photo related actual prizes.

rules:

# chances to win is based on participation

25 for each challenge you enter
5 each challenge you vote 95% (not 100 since some dont vote on entries the have seen or know)
1 for each comment

placement in a challenge does not increases your chances to win, it's incentive only

if Langdon wont implement it, I'm sure we could do it amongst ourselves.

feel free to discuss and offer modifications, we need to make this happen.

vlado

Canon EOS-70D

04/17/2015 09:34:57 AM · #2

Doesn't a "lottery" require an element of chance... luck... usually has a draw of some type.

How does ones accumulated score factor into the lottery. Perhaps for every 100 points, your name goes into the barrel for the draw. So someone with 1000 points has 10 entries in the barrel.

If you're suggesting 3 participants with the highest score at the end on the year win, you'd probably see an initial spike in participation which would taper when people realise they have little to no chance of catching the leaders.

I'm in favour of the concept, though not the cost/cash prize associated. Perhaps if there was no cost to enter, and a years membership was on offer?

Tamron 70-180mm F/2.8 Di III VXD

04/17/2015 09:52:17 AM · #3

i'm suggesting what you said. you get the following # of chances entered into random draw:

25 for each challenge you enter
5 each challenge you vote 95% (not 100 since some dont vote on entries the have seen or know)
1 for each comment

3 people chosen randomly for three prizes.

MadMan2k

Sony Alpha a6400

04/17/2015 09:52:26 AM · #4

Sounds good to me. I already enter every challenge and though voting and commenting 100% was very time consuming, I'd probably start again if we did this.

Canon EF 100mm f/2.8L Macro IS USM

04/17/2015 09:53:54 AM · #5

Originally posted by vlado:

I'm in favour of the concept, though not the cost/cash prize associated. Perhaps if there was no cost to enter, and a years membership was on offer?

i thought about that, but I wasn't sure if that would be incentive enough to raise participation levels.

P-A-U-L

Canon EOS R6

04/17/2015 10:06:20 AM · #6

Your system may result in a greater number of entries, greater number of votes and greater number of comments but what the quality of these incentive driven entries, votes and comments are is questionable.

I suspect a key factor preventing people entering, voting and commenting is lack of time. A small incentive would not magically solve this lack of time but I suppose could persuade people to devote more time to DPC. A years member ship is so cheap and therefore unlikely to be a huge incentive to spend an extra few hours every week.

I was wondering if reducing the frequency of challenges would result in more entries, more votes and more comments though this would have a knock on effect of reducing the frequency of the different challenge types so probably not a great idea.

bohemka

Nikon D700

Sigma 12-24mm f/4.5-5.6 EX Aspherical DG HSM for Nikon

04/17/2015 10:22:09 AM · #7

Being a member of this fine community is all the reward I need.

nygold

Nikon D5000

Nikon AF-S Nikkor 50mm f/1.8G

04/17/2015 10:37:41 AM · #8

How about workshop space?

Canon EF 100mm f/2.8L Macro IS USM

04/17/2015 10:53:03 AM · #9

Some incentive I believe would benefit the participation.

I don't think lack of time is the problem.

P-A-U-L

Canon EOS R6

04/17/2015 11:07:53 AM · #10

Originally posted by Tiny:

I don't think lack of time is the problem.

Perhaps not for retired people but for those with a full time job and a family I would imagine it may be a factor. Apologies if I am completely off the mark

Canon EF-S 18-135mm IS STM

04/17/2015 11:36:45 AM · #11

Originally posted by P-A-U-L:

does it matter? a comment is a comment, even if it starts out as "great shot" or "lovely". it may spur more elaborate comments more often then they are given now. Its also the reason i weighted it low, because you cant control the quality of the comments.

Originally posted by P-A-U-L:

I suspect a key factor preventing people entering, voting and commenting is lack of time. A small incentive would not magically solve this lack of time but I suppose could persuade people to devote more time to DPC. A years member ship is so cheap and therefore unlikely to be a huge incentive to spend an extra few hours every week.

i think DPL and TPL have proven that incentive (albeit not necessarily monetary) dramatically improves participation.

Message edited by author 2015-04-17 11:37:03.

vlado

Canon EOS-70D

04/17/2015 11:45:00 AM · #12

Originally posted by P-A-U-L:

Originally posted by Tiny:

I don't think lack of time is the problem.

Perhaps not for retired people but for those with a full time job and a family I would imagine it may be a factor. Apologies if I am completely off the mark

And some of us with full-time job and a family don't think a year's DPC membership is "so cheap". Yes time is an issue... and is the main reason there have been periods that my involvment in DPC has dropped-off at times.

04/17/2015 12:39:11 PM · #13

The people who have no spare time have no spare time.

Just like the people who have no money have no money.

04/17/2015 12:42:28 PM · #14

Originally posted by Tiny:

The people who have no spare time have no spare time.

Just like the people who have no money have no money.

Tiny, i'm not sure this place can handle such a profound observation.

Canon EF 70-200mm f/2.8L IS USM II

04/17/2015 01:01:13 PM · #15

I am just confirmng the previous post

jgirl57

04/17/2015 01:03:07 PM · #16

Great idea but I would go for portfolio space :-))

schlake

Canon EOS-1D X

04/17/2015 03:17:52 PM · #17

I don't think money is needed to bribe people into participation. Just make more (some? any?) challenges that are about photography, and fewer challenges that are about photoshop.

blindjustice

Canon EOS-60D

Tamron SP AF 28-75mm f/2.8 XR Di for Canon

04/17/2015 03:31:19 PM · #18

great idea.

how bout to simplify.

1 ticket for each entry.
1 ticket each challenge voted over 75%.
3 tickets comment 75%.
----- so you can get 5 per challenge.

(or your original idea)

eta- that might not weight commenting heavily enough.

Message edited by author 2015-04-17 15:32:24.

Nikon AF-S Nikkor 50mm f/1.8G

04/17/2015 03:31:36 PM · #19

Originally posted by schlake:

I don't think money is needed to bribe people into participation. Just make more (some? any?) challenges that are about photography, and fewer challenges that are about photoshop.

You would need to bribe me to participate at that place.

glad2badad

DJI Mavic Air 2

Sears 55mm f/1.4 M42

04/17/2015 06:44:21 PM · #20

Originally posted by jgirl57:

Great idea but I would go for portfolio space :-))

nygold

Nikon D5000

04/17/2015 06:45:09 PM · #21

Originally posted by glad2badad:

Originally posted by jgirl57:
Great idea but I would go for portfolio space :-))

+1