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09/28/2004 09:08:57 PM · #1
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09/28/2004 09:24:29 PM · #2
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09/28/2004 09:47:47 PM · #3
Diana ... WOW!
09/28/2004 10:09:20 PM · #4
I can't even see to the end of the block. No way I'm going to be able to see the moon tonight.
09/28/2004 10:10:01 PM · #5
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Please let me know what you think, this is my second attempt at the moon, and it seems to not be getting any better. I wanted more texture, but from what I have read, I need to take a partial moon for that, not a full moon. Thanks for any input!

-Danielle
09/28/2004 10:12:49 PM · #6
Shot this from my garage roof tonite
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09/28/2004 10:19:29 PM · #7
Originally posted by dccloss:

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Please let me know what you think, this is my second attempt at the moon, and it seems to not be getting any better. I wanted more texture, but from what I have read, I need to take a partial moon for that, not a full moon. Thanks for any input!

-Danielle


Try lowering your ISO to 200, Raising your Shutter to 1/180 or 1/250, and lower your f-stop to 8.0 or 12.

That shold work nicely
09/28/2004 10:36:23 PM · #8
What kind of lens are you guys using? I did exactly like James told me: ISO 200; F8.0; 1/250 sec exposure and it was completely black! When I moved the exposure to 1/100 I can see the faintest little bit of orange. The best ones I took tonight were at F2.8, 1/50 sec and I ain't posting it here with these you guys have posted!! It looks like pointillism instead of photgraphy.

This may be an impossible quest for me with the F828.

Message edited by author 2004-09-28 22:42:17.
09/28/2004 10:42:57 PM · #9
Can anyone tell me why my photo looks so small and no detail? I know I have a low-end camera [Panasonic FZ1 with seems to have the FZ2 upgrade]. The picture above is set at:
ISO 50
Shutter 1/200
Apt. F2.8
Zoom 12x [420mm].
If I set it on Amp. Priority to 8.0 [the largest on my camera], it automatically sets my SS to 1/15 to 1/40.
If I set my SS to 1/200 or anything in shutter priority it automatically sets the Amp. F2.8.
Any suggestions?

Message edited by author 2006-01-06 13:34:43.
09/28/2004 11:27:20 PM · #10
Originally posted by dipaulk:

What kind of lens are you guys using? I did exactly like James told me: ISO 200; F8.0; 1/250 sec exposure and it was completely black! When I moved the exposure to 1/100 I can see the faintest little bit of orange. The best ones I took tonight were at F2.8, 1/50 sec and I ain't posting it here with these you guys have posted!! It looks like pointillism instead of photgraphy.

This may be an impossible quest for me with the F828.


I am using a telescope.

-Danielle
09/28/2004 11:32:47 PM · #11
Originally posted by atsxus:


Try lowering your ISO to 200, Raising your Shutter to 1/180 or 1/250, and lower your f-stop to 8.0 or 12.

That should work nicely


I can't adjust the aperature on my telescope, and I don't have a telephoto. Putting the shudder speed that high is too dark. But, thanks for the info! The specs are shutter speed at 1/50, and ISO at 200.

-Danielle
09/29/2004 12:38:47 AM · #12
I managed to get my first-ever moon photos which weren't just a bright spot of light. I had a lot of them where the moon was beautifully framed between two tall trees on a far ridge, but getting the moon to an OK exposure seems to have obliterated them. I like this earlier shot where the moon's exposure isn't quite as good as a couple of later ones, but the silhouette of the tree adds some interest to me, since I can't really zoom in quite close enough to make the moon's detail prominent enough to "carry" the photo.

Moon from Grizzly Peak
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09/29/2004 12:40:41 AM · #13
Originally posted by dccloss:


I can't adjust the aperature on my telescope, and I don't have a telephoto. Putting the shudder speed that high is too dark. But, thanks for the info! The specs are shutter speed at 1/50, and ISO at 200.

-Danielle


Danielle, what type of telescope are you using? whats the focal length and apeture of the scope.

does your scope have a tracking system? are you using a remote shutter release? can you lock up the mirror on the D70?

James
09/29/2004 12:46:25 AM · #14
Originally posted by SDW65:



Can anyone tell me why my photo looks so small and no detail? I know I have a low-end camera [Panasonic FZ1 with seems to have the FZ2 upgrade]. The picture above is set at:
ISO 50
Shutter 1/200
Apt. F2.8
Zoom 12x [420mm].
If I set it on Amp. Priority to 8.0 [the largest on my camera], it automatically sets my SS to 1/15 to 1/40.
If I set my SS to 1/200 or anything in shutter priority it automatically sets the Amp. F2.8.
Any suggestions?


What are you using for Metering? If you have spot metering use it directly on the moon. Pattern or Center Weighted Averaging will take the black sky into effect.
09/29/2004 12:48:29 AM · #15
Originally posted by dipaulk:

What kind of lens are you guys using? I did exactly like James told me: ISO 200; F8.0; 1/250 sec exposure and it was completely black! When I moved the exposure to 1/100 I can see the faintest little bit of orange. The best ones I took tonight were at F2.8, 1/50 sec and I ain't posting it here with these you guys have posted!! It looks like pointillism instead of photgraphy.

This may be an impossible quest for me with the F828.


DiAnna, Im sorry my recommendatios did not work, i feel bad now.

Tonight I shot the moon at f8 ISO 200 1/60 second exposure with my D60 using my 400mm lens, you should be able to get the moon pretty decent with the 828.

James
09/29/2004 01:03:55 AM · #16
From last night:

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Full Manual Mode
Shutter 1/400 sec. @ F/4 Spot Metered ISO 50

SDW depending on your conditions (I can't even see the moon tonight due to clouds) F/2.8 seems a little hot for a shutter speed of 1/200 sec. Start at F/4 or F/5.6 with the same shutter speed. Drop your shutter speed if too dark. Definately, Spot meter if you have it on your cam.
09/29/2004 01:21:38 AM · #17
Originally posted by awpollard:

From last night:

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Full Manual Mode
Shutter 1/400 sec. @ F/4 Spot Metered ISO 50

SDW depending on your conditions (I can't even see the moon tonight due to clouds) F/2.8 seems a little hot for a shutter speed of 1/200 sec. Start at F/4 or F/5.6 with the same shutter speed. Drop your shutter speed if too dark. Definately, Spot meter if you have it on your cam.


I do have "spot meter" and used it. I did however set the SS at 1/500 and lowered my EV -2 and the camera adjusted the Apt to 8.0... Still not clear. The picture is taken "hand held". I think its a focus problem. No matter what I do my camera seems not to focus properly [look at my last challenge "Team Sports", a good example]
09/29/2004 08:29:26 PM · #18
Originally posted by jab119:

Originally posted by dccloss:


I can't adjust the aperature on my telescope, and I don't have a telephoto. Putting the shudder speed that high is too dark. But, thanks for the info! The specs are shutter speed at 1/50, and ISO at 200.

-Danielle


Danielle, what type of telescope are you using? whats the focal length and apeture of the scope.

does your scope have a tracking system? are you using a remote shutter release? can you lock up the mirror on the D70?

James


I am using a Meade ETX-90, the focal length is 1250mm, and the aperature is f13.8. Yes it has a tracking system, but I did not use it for this. Yes, I used a remote shutter release, and no I cannot lock the mirror on the D70. But, I found a web site (//www.fedler.com/scope.shtml), where a guy had the exact same setup as me, and his photos are much better. I am going to try to raise the shutter speed, and see what I get. Someone else emailed me (I think that it was you - James), and said that you need to stack maybe 10 photos on top of one another, to get more detail then my photo showed. My husband has not made an adapter to use with my tripod yet, but I had the telescope secured to a chair, and a tripod on the actual camera, which eliminated most, if not all, of the shake. I have read on another web site ( //home.hiwaay.net/~krcool/Astro/moon/howtophoto/ in the rules for photographing the moon, near the bottom of the page), that to get more detail, you need to take photos of the moon when it is not quite full. I will be experimenting with this more. Thanks for your help!

-Danielle

Message edited by author 2004-09-29 20:34:17.
09/29/2004 08:41:14 PM · #19
Originally posted by dccloss:

I am using a Meade ETX-90, the focal length is 1250mm, and the aperature is f13.8. Yes it has a tracking system, but I did not use it for this. Yes, I used a remote shutter release, and no I cannot lock the mirror on the D70. But, I found a web site (//www.fedler.com/scope.shtml), where a guy had the exact same setup as me, and his photos are much better. I am going to try to raise the shutter speed, and see what I get. Someone else emailed me (I think that it was you - James), and said that you need to stack maybe 10 photos on top of one another, to get more detail then my photo showed. My husband has not made an adapter to use with my tripod yet, but I had the telescope secured to a chair, and a tripod on the actual camera, which eliminated most, if not all, of the shake. I have read on another web site ( //home.hiwaay.net/~krcool/Astro/moon/howtophoto/ in the rules for photographing the moon, near the bottom of the page), that to get more detail, you need to take photos of the moon when it is not quite full. I will be experimenting with this more. Thanks for your help!

-Danielle


Danielle, I sent you the PM/email last night.

sounds like you might have more of a focusing problem and or too much movement in the set up. at the focal length of the etx-90 any small movements will result in a not so sharp image, so you may need to turn on the trackng on the scope.

If your diopter on the camera is not set correctly, when you manual focus throught the scope it will look in focus when it is not.

James

Message edited by author 2004-09-29 20:42:39.
09/29/2004 08:46:30 PM · #20
Danielle

have you tried using a Hartman Mask to assist in focusing?

i made one of of black construction paper and it works well

James
09/29/2004 09:22:46 PM · #21
Originally posted by jab119:


Danielle, I sent you the PM/email last night.

sounds like you might have more of a focusing problem and or too much movement in the set up. at the focal length of the etx-90 any small movements will result in a not so sharp image, so you may need to turn on the trackng on the scope.

If your diopter on the camera is not set correctly, when you manual focus throught the scope it will look in focus when it is not.

James


How do I know if the diopter is set wrong? I thought that was a matter of adjusting it for your eyesight... Should I set it at the factory setting? I played with the focus A LOT while I was trying this, hoping that one of them would turn out, but they all look pretty much the same. I think that I will wait until my husband makes the adapter plate, and try to use the tracking. Do you think that there is any truth to taking photos of the moon when it is not completely full? Thanks again for your help! Unfortunately, it is rather cloudy here today, so I cannot try this tonight! I may try that hartman mask, I already have foam core board. Thanks again.

-Danielle

Message edited by author 2004-09-29 21:23:19.
09/29/2004 09:29:05 PM · #22
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09/29/2004 09:30:55 PM · #23
Originally posted by Jacko:

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maybe it lacks some details, but I like it better without the details!

-.clic
09/29/2004 10:35:43 PM · #24
Our sky was hazy last night, but I snagged this anyway. I love our fall weather. :)

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Crap, for the life of me I can't make a thumbnail show up.... : /

Message edited by author 2004-09-29 22:41:48.
09/29/2004 10:43:45 PM · #25
Originally posted by dccloss:

How do I know if the diopter is set wrong? I thought that was a matter of adjusting it for your eyesight... Should I set it at the factory setting? I played with the focus A LOT while I was trying this, hoping that one of them would turn out, but they all look pretty much the same. I think that I will wait until my husband makes the adapter plate, and try to use the tracking. Do you think that there is any truth to taking photos of the moon when it is not completely full? Thanks again for your help! Unfortunately, it is rather cloudy here today, so I cannot try this tonight! I may try that hartman mask, I already have foam core board. Thanks again.

-Danielle


Yes you adjust the diopter for your eye sight, but it if it is off a little bit it can affect the focus quality of the image.

read this thread @ dpreview.com

D70 & Diopter

you can get great detail of the moon when it is not full, this is a 3/4 moon shot with my D60 and my Meade LX-90 scope, the first image is full size, the second is a 100% crop, the third is a 640x425 image
of the same shot
3/4 Moon

James

Message edited by author 2004-09-29 22:44:42.
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