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02/26/2015 04:36:54 PM · #1
I don't think this will go away any time soon: NPPA
(can't make the linkthing work)

Message edited by Bear_Music - parsed the link.
02/26/2015 05:24:24 PM · #2
here
02/26/2015 05:48:20 PM · #3
Whoooo. 20% DQs in the final round. That is a big number. Interesting to me was the indication of what they were DQing for, including addition and removal of elements and removal by tonal adjustment (either blacking-out or whiting-out detail). That last one is one that we see here as well.
I really don't understand why (some) photojournalists apparently think that is OK in their profession.
02/27/2015 12:49:43 AM · #4
Our rules: "Minimal editing" plus cropping. Makes sense.
02/27/2015 06:31:54 AM · #5
Originally posted by herfotoman:

Our rules: "Minimal editing" plus cropping. Makes sense.


im not so sure even cropping should be allowed.

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from: //apilarriffin.blogspot.com/

Message edited by author 2015-02-27 06:32:41.
02/27/2015 02:32:10 PM · #6
Originally posted by NPPA:

"some people think it's perfectly fine to move these [Photoshop] 'sliders' around [in Levels and Curves], and that's much more difficult to have a standard because then you start to get into a thing called 'taste.' And you see that these images are also put into print, and they have worked the print file differently than the file they put on the Internet. These are the files where we need to come out with some standards. Otherwise, very fast we'll be entering into the 'art' world. But here at World Press, journalism is at the core."

[emphasis mine]

for the past few years, i barely even crop the photos i submit for editorial publication, let alone any other post-processing. i leave that up to the publisher.
02/27/2015 03:05:33 PM · #7
Originally posted by Mike:

Originally posted by herfotoman:

Our rules: "Minimal editing" plus cropping. Makes sense.


im not so sure even cropping should be allowed.

' . substr('//2.bp.blogspot.com/-G7Juokm-Z_w/UKhFYnBHQAI/AAAAAAAAAC0/FiKYCx89eJM/s1600/Media-Manipulation-Optical-Illusion1.jpg', strrpos('//2.bp.blogspot.com/-G7Juokm-Z_w/UKhFYnBHQAI/AAAAAAAAAC0/FiKYCx89eJM/s1600/Media-Manipulation-Optical-Illusion1.jpg', '/') + 1) . '

from: //apilarriffin.blogspot.com/


would this be any less "ethical" if instead of cropping the photographer purposefully zoomed in more? it's exactly the same effect, except that one you can't police.
02/27/2015 03:53:44 PM · #8
good example, excellent point, Mike. Photographs, like any other reportage or fabrications, are still only appearances...
02/27/2015 04:20:01 PM · #9
Of course, the thing of it is that you *crop* an image as soon as you frame it up in the viewfinder, choosing what to include and what to exclude...
02/27/2015 04:46:46 PM · #10
Originally posted by Bear_Music:

Of course, the thing of it is that you *crop* an image as soon as you frame it up in the viewfinder, choosing what to include and what to exclude...


Yep.

Maybe it should be mandated that everyone needs to use 180 degree fisheye lenses, so that it's assured none of the original context is ever lost.

Message edited by author 2015-02-27 16:49:43.
02/27/2015 05:19:01 PM · #11
Originally posted by LanndonKane:

Originally posted by Bear_Music:

Of course, the thing of it is that you *crop* an image as soon as you frame it up in the viewfinder, choosing what to include and what to exclude...

Yep.

Maybe it should be mandated that everyone needs to use 180 degree fisheye lenses, so that it's assured none of the original context is ever lost.

That would be the reductio ad absurdum, yep. Of course, perhaps the most absurd thing is to assume that journalists, as a group, don't have a point-of-view, an ax to grind. I'm sure the most principled journalists (and God bless 'em) are largely meticulous beyond reproach, but we're kidding ourselves if we think any significant percentage of stories and images aren't slanted and/or selected to further one shade of editorial bias or another :-(
03/12/2015 09:54:06 AM · #12
First place photo disqualified because photographer lied in his notes.

“…Troilo confirmed over telephone and email that the image had not been taken in Charleroi, contrary to what he submitted to the contest. This falsified information is a violation of the 2015 Photo Contest entry rules. In accordance with the judging procedures, which state that a single image or story/portfolio that has been awarded a prize will be disqualified if proven to be not in compliance with the entry rules, World Press Photo has made the decision to disqualify the story.”

the World Press Photo competition has decided to disqualify Giovanni Troilo’s first-prize Contemporary Issues story.
03/12/2015 10:28:35 AM · #13
Originally posted by Bear_Music:

We're kidding ourselves if we think any significant percentage of stories and images aren't slanted and/or selected to further one shade of editorial bias or another


In other news....the DPChallenge SiteCouncil has recently admitted bias towards images.
More at 11.

;-)

Message edited by author 2015-03-12 10:29:26.
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