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02/12/2015 09:57:41 AM · #176
Originally posted by Mike:

apparently atheists kill in the name of religion also.


how do you know the guy was atheist?
02/12/2015 09:58:07 AM · #177
Originally posted by LanndonKane:

Originally posted by Mike:

apparently atheists kill in the name of religion also.


how do you know the guy was atheist?


i see, says so.
02/12/2015 09:59:22 AM · #178
Originally posted by LanndonKane:

Originally posted by LanndonKane:

Originally posted by Mike:

apparently atheists kill in the name of religion also.


how do you know the guy was atheist?


i see, says so.


lol, he states it quite clearly.
02/12/2015 10:40:13 AM · #179
No one kills in the name of atheism. He clearly killed in the name of anti Islam hatred. There is a difference, in that he killed for his 'positive' belief, not his lack of belief. Stupid bastard apparently believed all Muslims are members of ISIS.. smh.

Message edited by author 2015-02-12 10:41:25.
02/12/2015 10:51:45 AM · #180
Originally posted by Cory:

No one kills in the name of atheism. He clearly killed in the name of anti Islam hatred. There is a difference, in that he killed for his 'positive' belief, not his lack of belief. Stupid bastard apparently believed all Muslims are members of ISIS.. smh.


That's not true. You could fully kill in the name of atheism, and there's so many killers around, it's most likely been done before.
02/12/2015 12:10:00 PM · #181
Originally posted by LanndonKane:

Originally posted by Cory:

No one kills in the name of atheism. He clearly killed in the name of anti Islam hatred. There is a difference, in that he killed for his 'positive' belief, not his lack of belief. Stupid bastard apparently believed all Muslims are members of ISIS.. smh.


That's not true. You could fully kill in the name of atheism, and there's so many killers around, it's most likely been done before.


Perhaps. But that would just be weird. Like killing someone in the name of Taco Bell.
02/12/2015 12:56:33 PM · #182
Originally posted by Cory:

Originally posted by LanndonKane:

Originally posted by Cory:

No one kills in the name of atheism. He clearly killed in the name of anti Islam hatred. There is a difference, in that he killed for his 'positive' belief, not his lack of belief. Stupid bastard apparently believed all Muslims are members of ISIS.. smh.


That's not true. You could fully kill in the name of atheism, and there's so many killers around, it's most likely been done before.


Perhaps. But that would just be weird. Like killing someone in the name of Taco Bell.


Sure it's weird. Is there anything not weird about taking someone's life?
02/12/2015 01:08:02 PM · #183
Originally posted by LanndonKane:

Sure it's weird. Is there anything not weird about taking someone's life?


Depending on one's situation, perhaps not. Theatres of war come to mind where what you are advancing does not hold true, and there exist other scenarios and circumstances.

Ray
02/12/2015 01:09:34 PM · #184
Originally posted by Mike:

Originally posted by LanndonKane:

Originally posted by LanndonKane:

Originally posted by Mike:

apparently atheists kill in the name of religion also.


how do you know the guy was atheist?


i see, says so.


lol, he states it quite clearly.


Albeit the man has indeed clearly stated that he is an atheist, it is a stretch to suggest that he killed these people because of his atheism.

Ray
02/12/2015 01:10:15 PM · #185
Originally posted by RayEthier:

Originally posted by LanndonKane:

Sure it's weird. Is there anything not weird about taking someone's life?


Depending on one's situation, perhaps not. Theatres of war come to mind where what you are advancing does not hold true, and there exist other scenarios and circumstances.

Ray


not sure i understand that sentence.
02/12/2015 01:20:53 PM · #186
Originally posted by LanndonKane:

Originally posted by RayEthier:

Originally posted by LanndonKane:

Sure it's weird. Is there anything not weird about taking someone's life?


Depending on one's situation, perhaps not. Theatres of war come to mind where what you are advancing does not hold true, and there exist other scenarios and circumstances.

Ray


not sure i understand that sentence.


Depending on what sort of bind your ass is in, that might not be true. Fighters in a war would be the first to come to mind, where your idea is no longer valid, and I can think of at least several other situations where this idea would also not hold true.

(help?)

Message edited by author 2015-02-12 13:21:07.
02/12/2015 01:25:25 PM · #187
Seems that 21.gif Cory is much quicker off the mark than I am. I will attribute that to his young age. :O)

Ray
02/12/2015 02:22:10 PM · #188
Originally posted by RayEthier:

Originally posted by Mike:

Originally posted by LanndonKane:

Originally posted by LanndonKane:

Originally posted by Mike:

apparently atheists kill in the name of religion also.


how do you know the guy was atheist?


i see, says so.


lol, he states it quite clearly.


Albeit the man has indeed clearly stated that he is an atheist, it is a stretch to suggest that he killed these people because of his atheism.

Ray


I agree, shooting them over a parking spot is clearly the reason.
02/12/2015 02:24:24 PM · #189
Originally posted by LanndonKane:



Sure it's weird. Is there anything not weird about murdering some one?


fixed it for you.
02/12/2015 02:53:33 PM · #190
Originally posted by Mike:

Originally posted by LanndonKane:



Sure it's weird. Is there anything not weird about murdering some one?


fixed it for you.


works for me.
02/12/2015 03:04:57 PM · #191
Originally posted by Mike:

apparently atheists kill in the name of religion also.


Oh come on, no religion is exempt from A-holes. You can't blame atheism for this killing.

02/12/2015 03:13:46 PM · #192
Originally posted by dtremain:

The first two facts of the universe:
God is good.
God wants to have a relationship with me.

Originally posted by NikonJeb:

Please explain how these statements can possibly be factual.

Originally posted by dtremain:

You tell me.

If, after over 50 years that I can remember, God has never lied to me, has always acted in my best interest (regardless of what I wanted), and has always initiated re-establishing a relationship with me even after I behaved like His enemy - AND He has always been congruent with the God revealed in the Bible (both Old (Jewish) and New (Christian) Testaments) and as taught about by Christians - what am I supposed to conclude?

I understand that you believe all of that to be true, but that doesn't make it factual.

Not only that, but in order for your statements to be true, I would need something more than your say-so if I were to accept them as fact.

Certainly as an intelligent, thinking man, you understand that would be an irresponsible way to arrive at a conclusion.
02/12/2015 03:22:16 PM · #193
Originally posted by Mike:

apparently atheists kill in the name of religion also.


Originally posted by Nullix:

Oh come on, no religion is exempt from A-holes. You can't blame atheism for this killing.

Quote of the day! LOL!!!
02/12/2015 03:30:08 PM · #194
Originally posted by Nullix:

Originally posted by Mike:

apparently atheists kill in the name of religion also.


Oh come on, no religion is exempt from A-holes. You can't blame atheism for this killing.


if we wan to say that someone kills in the name of god, than its only fair to call out when an atheist kills a theist for their beliefs (aka in the name of atheism).

Message edited by author 2015-02-12 15:30:39.
02/12/2015 03:46:09 PM · #195
Originally posted by Mike:

if we wan to say that someone kills in the name of god, than its only fair to call out when an atheist kills a theist for their beliefs (aka in the name of atheism).

If you can find such a case then we'll reconsider ...
02/12/2015 05:37:37 PM · #196
Originally posted by Mike:

Originally posted by Nullix:

Originally posted by Mike:

apparently atheists kill in the name of religion also.


Oh come on, no religion is exempt from A-holes. You can't blame atheism for this killing.


if we wan to say that someone kills in the name of god, than its only fair to call out when an atheist kills a theist for their beliefs (aka in the name of atheism).


Well, the previously mentioned guy sorta did, but here's the problem:

You have a case here where a person believes more than ONE thing.

First, he did 'believe' in atheism. (absolutely wonky concept there, the belief in disbelief is a strange sort of thing to call religion, but whatever)

Second, and this is the crucial one, he believed in anti-Islamic rhetoric.

(more beliefs here, unknown to me)

..

Now - surely you won't disagree that the cause was not belief #1.

Message edited by author 2015-02-12 17:38:16.
02/12/2015 10:07:21 PM · #197
Originally posted by Mike:

Originally posted by Nullix:

Originally posted by Mike:

apparently atheists kill in the name of religion also.


Oh come on, no religion is exempt from A-holes. You can't blame atheism for this killing.


if we wan to say that someone kills in the name of god, than its only fair to call out when an atheist kills a theist for their beliefs (aka in the name of atheism).


True, but in the present case there is no indication whatsoever that his "atheism" was the catalyst that caused him to kill these people.

There is a difference.

Ray
02/12/2015 10:15:54 PM · #198
There is a case to be made for the automobile being the embodiment of a state religion in the US -- I suppose desecration "misuse" of the altar parking space might qualify as a religiously-based motivation.
02/12/2015 10:16:38 PM · #199
Originally posted by GeneralE:

There is a case to be made for the automobile being the embodiment of a state religion in the US -- I suppose desecration "misuse" of the altar parking space might qualify as a religiously-based motivation.


That's awesome.
02/12/2015 10:25:51 PM · #200
People snap over the weirdest stuff. Many, many years ago my husband was attacked with an aluminum baseball bat to the head over a parking space. Totally unprovoked, it was our first apartment together and there were more apartments than parking spaces, so it was basically first come first served. If he had turned his head to the left he would have been dead. Instead he ended up with about 30 stitches and the attacker ended up in jail. We never did find out what religion he was. :D
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