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12/19/2014 07:57:54 PM · #1 |
| Google Just Gave Photographers A Big Reason To Choose Android Over The iPhone |
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12/19/2014 08:49:25 PM · #2 |
Might be close to time to upgrade from my Galaxy SII. It sure isn't getting that upgrade.
The next camerphone challenge might not be much of a challenge, though.
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12/19/2014 09:17:36 PM · #3 |
| Hmmmmm, I think I'm due for an upgrade :) |
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12/19/2014 09:36:09 PM · #4 |
| Interestingly enough I always chose my camera for photography. |
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12/19/2014 09:44:02 PM · #5 |
Also fairly certain the Gimmicky 41 megapixel Nokia Lumia 1020 Windows phone has had raw for a long time.
And the images are still of less overall IQ than older phone cameras with way less mp and no RAW format.
Message edited by author 2014-12-19 21:48:13. |
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12/20/2014 05:55:15 AM · #6 |
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12/20/2014 07:58:03 AM · #7 |
I'd start posting links too... But everyone likes different sources, especially when trying to make a point.
And, they are phones... so it doesn't really matter anyway. |
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12/20/2014 10:04:36 AM · #8 |
| my htc m8 is already better than iphone camera. the pixel size is bigger and there is virtually no shutter lag. |
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12/20/2014 11:14:47 AM · #9 |
Originally posted by Mike:
my htc m8 is already better than iphone camera. the pixel size is bigger and there is virtually no shutter lag. |
Yet reviewers who compare them seem to prefer the iPhone 6's image quality. Funny. |
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12/20/2014 03:17:57 PM · #10 |
| meh. reviewers. i'm quite happy. my daughter has an iphone and my phones camera is far superior in focus speed and low light ability. |
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12/20/2014 04:15:01 PM · #11 |
meh. phones. My D600 is better than the htc m8 phone camera. Every possible thing is better (photographically speaking). Because it's a camera.
BOOM!
Message edited by author 2014-12-20 16:16:36. |
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12/20/2014 11:44:55 PM · #12 |
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12/21/2014 01:46:01 AM · #13 |
Hi, how opportune that this discussion just started. I am due for an upgrade at the end of the month and was really battling to make a decision. I want to start doing more photography with my phone - make that I want to start taking pictures with the phone. I hate Samsung (had the S5 and gave it away). I currently have a Blackberry and love it (more than 4 years old already), but the picture quality is really not good. I have been testing a few phones and finally decided to go with the iphone 5S. I am not prepared to spend the amount of money they charge here for the 6 and from what I gather the 5s is a pretty good phone). My needs for the phone are very basic: to make and receive calls (without sliding/pushing/pressing 5 times like on the Samsung!), send and receive SMS, access my e-mails, access the internet at times, track my fitness/activity and now to take pictures. I don't need to download movies nor watch them on a 4" screen, I don't do much music, I am a very BASIC phone consumer. My technical insight into cameras and phones in general is far too small to make an educated decision what phone/camera is really best. I looked at the Samsung K zoom, but it a) is a Samsung again and b) is very heavy - oh yes, if it is a light phone that would be a bonus :-). the size is an issue because the smaller the better, but of course then you loose screen size ...
I don't know if I really need RAW for the phone. I mean I am not changing my camera for my phone, I see them as 2 different tools for different thing.
Mike, I like what you said about the shutter lag, has anybody got any input on that aspect, especially re the 5s?
I am just trying to get as much info as I can, I realize at the end it is a personal choice, just want to try and make it as informed as possible :-)
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12/21/2014 02:16:45 AM · #14 |
Originally posted by kasaba:
Hi, how opportune that this discussion just started. I am due for an upgrade at the end of the month and was really battling to make a decision. I want to start doing more photography with my phone - make that I want to start taking pictures with the phone. I hate Samsung (had the S5 and gave it away). I currently have a Blackberry and love it (more than 4 years old already), but the picture quality is really not good. I have been testing a few phones and finally decided to go with the iphone 5S. I am not prepared to spend the amount of money they charge here for the 6 and from what I gather the 5s is a pretty good phone). My needs for the phone are very basic: to make and receive calls (without sliding/pushing/pressing 5 times like on the Samsung!), send and receive SMS, access my e-mails, access the internet at times, track my fitness/activity and now to take pictures. I don't need to download movies nor watch them on a 4" screen, I don't do much music, I am a very BASIC phone consumer. My technical insight into cameras and phones in general is far too small to make an educated decision what phone/camera is really best. I looked at the Samsung K zoom, but it a) is a Samsung again and b) is very heavy - oh yes, if it is a light phone that would be a bonus :-). the size is an issue because the smaller the better, but of course then you loose screen size ...
I don't know if I really need RAW for the phone. I mean I am not changing my camera for my phone, I see them as 2 different tools for different thing.
Mike, I like what you said about the shutter lag, has anybody got any input on that aspect, especially re the 5s?
I am just trying to get as much info as I can, I realize at the end it is a personal choice, just want to try and make it as informed as possible :-)
Thanks |
Not sure about where you live, but here in the U.S. we have plenty of stores where you can actually take some shots with the phone cameras and see for yourself how the images compare and what kind of lag there will be. I had an iPhone 5s and while the camera was better than some cameras, it was still a disappointment with being only 8 mpx and not handling low light very well. I upgraded to a bigger and heavier Samsung Galaxy Note 4 and the camera on this is really nice. 16mpx and works much better in low light situations. I'm not trying to sway you either direction, just giving some personal input. I really suggest trying them out if you can in the store.
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12/21/2014 11:22:58 AM · #15 |
| And in the end, it's still just a phone camera. When I want to actually take a photo, I use the tool made for doing that. When I need to call or text I grab my phone. I'd rather have the features I need in a PHONE in a phone, than the important thing being the camera in my phone. |
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12/21/2014 12:04:14 PM · #16 |
A cool feature and glad it was implemented for their sake.
I've had a couple Android phones and so has my wife, but we both have iPhones and the family shares an iPad mini/retina and we don't plan on going back. Overall they've been less trouble and more reliable.
Never owned a high end Samsung phone, though - I'm sure they are fine. My Motorola Atria and our lower end Samsung ones were not very good.
Somewhat related - on smartphones, the LED flashlight and the screen itself (whether with an app to create patterns/shapes or just with a solid color displayed) make excellent tools for light painting. One of these days maybe I'll try to put together a tutorial or something. |
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12/21/2014 12:13:05 PM · #17 |
Originally posted by kasaba:
Hi, how opportune that this discussion just started. I am due for an upgrade at the end of the month and was really battling to make a decision. I want to start doing more photography with my phone - make that I want to start taking pictures with the phone. I hate Samsung (had the S5 and gave it away). I currently have a Blackberry and love it (more than 4 years old already), but the picture quality is really not good. I have been testing a few phones and finally decided to go with the iphone 5S. I am not prepared to spend the amount of money they charge here for the 6 and from what I gather the 5s is a pretty good phone). My needs for the phone are very basic: to make and receive calls (without sliding/pushing/pressing 5 times like on the Samsung!), send and receive SMS, access my e-mails, access the internet at times, track my fitness/activity and now to take pictures. I don't need to download movies nor watch them on a 4" screen, I don't do much music, I am a very BASIC phone consumer. My technical insight into cameras and phones in general is far too small to make an educated decision what phone/camera is really best. I looked at the Samsung K zoom, but it a) is a Samsung again and b) is very heavy - oh yes, if it is a light phone that would be a bonus :-). the size is an issue because the smaller the better, but of course then you loose screen size ...
I don't know if I really need RAW for the phone. I mean I am not changing my camera for my phone, I see them as 2 different tools for different thing.
Mike, I like what you said about the shutter lag, has anybody got any input on that aspect, especially re the 5s?
I am just trying to get as much info as I can, I realize at the end it is a personal choice, just want to try and make it as informed as possible :-)
Thanks |
i got my phone about a month ago. it was a tough call between the LG G3 and htc M8. the samsung S5 was third and i only considered it because it was waterproof my wife has an s4 and the S4 feels more robust and thats not saying much. i went with the m8 for myriad of reasons but the camera is quite good however all things said, it still pales in comparison to my 5D2 but that's to be expected. of all the phones i tried, the shutter lag was by far the best on the m8 and it does a pretty good job in low light and its focus speed is quite quick too. my daughter got an iphoe 5 and to be honest im not impressed with the camera, its good but but its inferior to the m8, its touted as this great camera and while it does what it needs to its not anywhere close to a dslr as the fanboys or apple would have you think.
Message edited by author 2014-12-21 12:14:12. |
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12/21/2014 02:07:09 PM · #18 |
Thank you everyone for weighing in. It is interesting for me at least) to read why and how people are drawn towards one or the other.
Thank you Mike again for pointing out the reaction time of the phones. It wasn't something I had thought about, but I know it annoys me tremendously on the odd occasion that I take a snap shot with my current phone. |
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12/21/2014 02:11:08 PM · #19 |
| check the features, i haven't explored the ability of mine yet but some phones will allow you to shoot a video and pull out the best frame. |
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12/22/2014 07:06:27 PM · #20 |
Originally posted by Mike:
check the features, i haven't explored the ability of mine yet but some phones will allow you to shoot a video and pull out the best frame. |
I've wondered about this, but (for DPC purposes) I suspect individual frames would lack the necessary exif data? |
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12/31/2014 03:25:32 AM · #21 |
For Android there is an app called "Camera FV-5" that simulate most DSLR like controls/options and it had RAW file support since launch - long before Google officially added it to the Android. Its current version supports DNG format for RAW in addition to older TIFF.
Of course as soon as I bought it for RAW support the next day my OnePlus One built in camera app gets an update pushed to it that added the RAW file support in DNG for free...
Message edited by author 2014-12-31 03:27:05. |
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01/01/2015 01:42:09 AM · #22 |
The fv5 require android 5 to enable the raw function. Not all the manufacturers have made the upgrade. Sony did not.
So it has the support but not quite unless you already have the already raw enabled 5.0 :)
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01/03/2015 11:31:33 AM · #23 |
In my search for that "perfect" mobile phone ;-), I came across this site, which I thought was real fun, and assuming they keep it up can be useful to anybody looking for a camera. The site compares the picture quality of phone cameras. You can chose the phones (obviously), but also the "test pattern", as well as a scale to make the pictures equal (i.e if you are comparing a 20 MB camera and a 8 MB you can scale the pics to compare it at an equal resolution)
//www.gsmarena.com/piccmp.php3?idType=3&idPhone1=6294&idPhone2=6227&idPhone3=6539
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