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11/12/2014 04:57:18 PM · #1
OK, I know the dictionary definition. But is a dead butterfly "inanimate"? According to Webster it is...

a: not endowed with life or spirit <an inanimate object> b: lacking consciousness or power of motion <an inanimate body>

...but I suspect it will get a lot of DNMC votes.
11/12/2014 04:59:45 PM · #2
Did you read the details?????

The challenge description is VERY clear about this:

Challenge Details: We do lots of macro challenges, and the bugs seem to win 'em all. So NO bugs! NO animals! NO flowers, NO ferns! NO THING alive!

Rocks, glass, sand, metal, plastic, OBJECTS is the ticket here. Explore the inanimate world up close and personal.

Sounds like NO BUGS to me :-)
11/12/2014 05:04:04 PM · #3
Originally posted by Beetle:

Did you read the details?????

The challenge description is VERY clear about this:

Challenge Details: We do lots of macro challenges, and the bugs seem to win 'em all. So NO bugs! NO animals! NO flowers, NO ferns! NO THING alive!

Rocks, glass, sand, metal, plastic, OBJECTS is the ticket here. Explore the inanimate world up close and personal.

Sounds like NO BUGS to me :-)


But.........is a dead bug still a bug?
11/12/2014 05:07:27 PM · #4
dear mr hippie, you need to get out more.
11/12/2014 05:22:47 PM · #5
This is further clarified by "Extra Rules: Shots of currently living or once living things may be disqualified."
11/12/2014 05:29:37 PM · #6
hey, is someone fed up or what? I vacillate between the cavillers and the righteous: when is a bug not a bug? And what about bones/ossified poop/carbon products? oy, what a mangled thought we sire when of entomony we tire...
11/12/2014 05:30:52 PM · #7
IMNSHO, if it ever had a pulse and/or any type of life-giving fluid flowing through its veins, and thus capable of growth and reproduction, it's a total DNMC.

So, I will NOT be entering a shot of, say, a steak or a bone, because they came from a once-living animal. Same with dead/dried flowers and the like. I won't be entering a still life featuring hay, either, as hay is dried grass. Ditto for the moult of a horseshoe crab, etc.

You dig?
11/12/2014 05:53:47 PM · #8
Out more?! I'm out more than I care to be. ;-)

Look, I clearly understood the intent of the thing. I simply asked 2 friends for help procuring "models" for this and got into the Webster-based argument. So, the intent of my post was to clarify this for all. My apologies for not grilling down to the "meat" of the post.

So, my next question is, given that disqualification rules are in place right up front are droplets of water animate or inanimate?

Message edited by author 2014-11-12 17:55:19.
11/12/2014 05:59:10 PM · #9
Originally posted by backdoorhippie:

Out more?! I'm out more than I care to be. ;-)

Look, I clearly understood the intent of the thing. I simply asked 2 friends for help procuring "models" for this and got into the Webster-based argument. So, the intent of my post was to clarify this for all. My apologies for not grilling down to the "meat" of the post.

So, my next question is, given that disqualification rules are in place right up front are droplets of water animate or inanimate?


Well, that water could very possible and most likely contains some type of living organism, so I would have to conclude that water is not inanimate.

Message edited by author 2014-11-12 17:59:22.
11/12/2014 06:00:45 PM · #10
Originally posted by backdoorhippie:

So, my next question is, given that disqualification rules are in place right up front are droplets of water animate or inanimate?

I think it depends on whether your "macro" attains a degree of of mmagnification sufficient to visualize individual bacteria ...
11/12/2014 06:06:45 PM · #11
Why go with boring ol' water droplets, which seem to have had their day here? Here's a hint: hand sanitizer gel. Bazillions of teeny tiny l'il water-like droplets suspended in a perfectly (in my experience anyway) clear medium. And to the best of my knowledge hand-sanitizer gel is 100% synthetic. So go nuts, and you're welcome ;-p
11/12/2014 06:22:50 PM · #12
Or maybe used distilled water? (I would not DNMC a water shot.)
11/12/2014 06:35:58 PM · #13
What about plastic bugs?
11/12/2014 06:42:24 PM · #14
Stop arguing and just give Irene the blue for some glass thing photographed on some opaque thing with diffuse lighting from the side.
11/12/2014 06:52:11 PM · #15
Originally posted by snaffles:

And to the best of my knowledge hand-sanitizer gel is 100% synthetic.

Alcohols are organic compunds ...
11/12/2014 07:03:09 PM · #16
I love you guys, LOL.
11/12/2014 07:55:01 PM · #17
water is life, or so i've heard (and if it isn't this might as well be a water droplets challenge....)
11/12/2014 09:20:13 PM · #18
<---Slaps forehead hysterically...I fell like I'm watching a episode of my family's household :)
11/12/2014 10:07:11 PM · #19
Originally posted by tnun:

And what about bones/ossified poop/carbon products?

What about a fresh, hot, steaming pile of.... Chocolate pudding?
11/12/2014 10:23:01 PM · #20
Just make sure to title the image... Aftermath.
11/12/2014 10:42:14 PM · #21
We're not gonna be ridiculous here, people. You can photograph Jello without worrying if it's animal-derived gelatin. You can photograph an expensive bottle of perfume without worrying if there's musk in the mix. You can photograph synthetics without worrying that they're oil-based and oil is a byproduct of decaying carbon life forms.

Just use some common sense, OK? Think of this as more of a futuristic (or steampunk, if you prefer) macro challenge built around artificial and/or entirely inanimate objects. Too often in our macro challenges REALLY nice images in that genre suffer by comparison with the "exciting" stuff like incredible bug-shapes and intricate botanical details.

This is a chance for the other side to shine. Embrace it!
11/13/2014 03:24:04 AM · #22
Originally posted by backdoorhippie:

Out more?! I'm out more than I care to be. ;-)



Ha !
11/13/2014 05:23:24 AM · #23
My definition of inanimate comes from the film 'In Bruges'...
11/13/2014 08:03:38 AM · #24
I misunderstood.

Message edited by author 2014-11-13 08:46:28.
11/13/2014 08:20:24 AM · #25
Originally posted by Elaine:

This is further clarified by "Extra Rules: Shots of currently living or once living things may be disqualified."

I hadn't seen this until now. This is completely unnecessary and just stirs the pot. No wonder all the churn. Anyone who enters a bug or leaf will be voted down to DQ depths anyway. The challenge is no longer the photographer's but the voter's to see if they can find some disqualifying element. Too much emphasis on what not to photograph. Maybe I'll sit.
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