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09/26/2004 06:39:01 AM · #26
I use Adobe® Photoshop® CS. It's the only reason I still have a Windows PC at this point.

I looked briefly at the GIMP, and while it's not a bad package, in my opinion it's nowhere near Photoshop in terms of capability/features and ease of use. I'm sure it will get there in time.

If you're looking to spend less than $100 though, The GIMP may be your best option. It is free of cost (but it's a good idea to make a contribution to the project if you want to help keep it going), but you should expect somewhat of a learning curve.

-Terry
09/26/2004 11:31:42 AM · #27
Originally posted by mandyp:

Originally posted by MrAkamai:

As for legit and cheap upgrades, if you know a student or teacher you can have them purchase the software for you from online discounters or from their student stores. That's how I got a lot of my software and a laptop a while back.


This isn't legitimate unless you're a student or a teacher. It is still a violation of the EULA.


OK, then don't listen to my suggestion. :)

Originally posted by ClubJuggle:

I use Adobe® Photoshop® CS. It's the only reason I still have a Windows PC at this point.


Uhh, you can get CS for the Mac so you can ditch that PC. :) If you have the license only for the PC version, I think Adobe has cross platform upgrades. They did way back when I was using PageMaker 6.5 and I wanted to switch from the PC version to the Mac version.
09/26/2004 11:42:27 AM · #28
Originally posted by PaulMdx:

Originally posted by Kylie:

I had ACDSee, but removed it from my system after too many issues with data corruption

What problems have you had, Kylie?


Just noticed this post. If you check out the ACDSee Forums, you will get a good idea of some of the serious issues that can happen, but obviously not with everyone. I had accepted that I couldn't make full use of the features, they just weren't compatible with my system (for instance, backing up), but when I started having data corruption leading to photos being lost - I finally gave up. I have not missed it one bit. If you have any specific questons, feel free to PM me. I am probably being too generic in this reply. BTW, MS Digital Image Pro 10 is out and I am very excited about getting my hands on that. Looks like it might send PS Elements running for once! lol
09/26/2004 12:23:08 PM · #29
I don't have any specific probs, Kylie. I've only just upgraded from ACDSee 3.1 to 5.0, so I'm hoping it will be ok. I really appreciate the amount of power it provides, so it's difficult finding a replacement.. I don't even like Photo Mechanic, which costs a fortune. :-)
09/26/2004 12:37:38 PM · #30
Originally posted by PaulMdx:

I don't have any specific probs, Kylie. I've only just upgraded from ACDSee 3.1 to 5.0, so I'm hoping it will be ok. I really appreciate the amount of power it provides, so it's difficult finding a replacement.. I don't even like Photo Mechanic, which costs a fortune. :-)


Check out the fourm if you get a chance. The real rpoblems began with 6.0 and 6.3 and they have now released 7.0 to current users (you can't buy it yet on their website). I really wanted to have something like that, too, but the problems became too much. I don't have a very powerful system, either, so I am just sticking to basic viewers for now.
09/26/2004 12:42:11 PM · #31
Originally posted by Kylie:

Check out the fourm if you get a chance. The real rpoblems began with 6.0 and 6.3 and they have now released 7.0 to current users (you can't buy it yet on their website).

Thanks v much for the feedback - I'll watch what I'm doing 'upgrading'.
09/26/2004 12:56:52 PM · #32
Originally posted by kidchico:

Which of these, or any not listed here, offer the best bang for the buck. Assuming the "buck" = <$100.
Thanks again


Two come to mind. PSP8 can be had for 80. For another 40 you can get the complete PSP suite which includes Animation factory, & Jasc Photo Album. Full featured & a lot of Photoshop plugins work with it.
The GIMP is free, & the book, Grokking the Gimp, will show you how to use it. The book is 40.
Another low cost option is to check out English camera mags, like Digital Camera World, Better Digital Photography, Digital Photography Techniques, etc. They often include full versions of image editing software.
I use both PSP7 & the GIMP. The GIMP mainly in linux, PSP in windows. I also have MS photodraw 2, Ulead photoimpact 6, Denaba Canvas 7, Ulead photo express 4, MS picture it 7, & probably others.



09/26/2004 02:29:06 PM · #33
Originally posted by MrAkamai:

Uhh, you can get CS for the Mac so you can ditch that PC. :) If you have the license only for the PC version, I think Adobe has cross platform upgrades. They did way back when I was using PageMaker 6.5 and I wanted to switch from the PC version to the Mac version.


I don't want to buy hardware, I want to migrate to Linuc.

In any case, Adobe no longer has cross-platform upgrades.

-Terry
09/26/2004 02:30:15 PM · #34
User friendly is the last phrase I would use to describe Photoshop or Elements. They are, however, the "daddies" when it comes to photo editing. I run a business as a web designer and in my opinion it's worth the effort learning Photoshop for bitmap work. For vector work I use a little known Product called Xara X1 available comparatively cheaply from www.xara.com.

John
09/26/2004 02:45:10 PM · #35
I can't get any of my editors to read the raw files again... What's a free raw editor just so I can maybe adjust white balance sharpness contrast and save as a tiff?
09/26/2004 02:48:48 PM · #36
PhaseOne C1 - I only shot raw.
09/26/2004 03:04:45 PM · #37
Originally posted by ClubJuggle:



I don't want to buy hardware, I want to migrate to Linuc.

In any case, Adobe no longer has cross-platform upgrades.

-Terry


CodeWeavers Crossover Give it a look.
09/26/2004 10:07:21 PM · #38
Photoshop I'm not a master but i know what i'm doing works good for me
09/26/2004 11:10:53 PM · #39
I love JASC Paint Shop Pro.
Version 9.0 just came out and it finally supports the Nikon .NEF RAW setting. I can't afford CS, so PSP is my main man.
09/26/2004 11:31:31 PM · #40
Corel Photo-Paint.
09/27/2004 02:10:50 AM · #41
Originally posted by ClubJuggle:

I use Adobe® Photoshop® CS. It's the only reason I still have a Windows PC at this point.

I looked briefly at the GIMP, and while it's not a bad package, in my opinion it's nowhere near Photoshop in terms of capability/features and ease of use. I'm sure it will get there in time.

If you're looking to spend less than $100 though, The GIMP may be your best option. It is free of cost (but it's a good idea to make a contribution to the project if you want to help keep it going), but you should expect somewhat of a learning curve.

-Terry

One question about the GIMP:
I haven't dove into image editing a whole lot yet, but does the GIMP posess features similar to paint shop pro 7? Such as layering, lassoing and so forth?
09/27/2004 03:20:06 AM · #42
I really like to use Adobe Photoshop CS, so many new features that make my life easier.
09/27/2004 05:46:01 AM · #43
I own Corel Photo-paint, but I almost never use it (I used it more often some 5-10 years ago), it's not bad, but I like Photoshop CS better and I use it a lot, even more than my cameras... :-)

-.clic
09/27/2004 05:53:43 PM · #44
Originally posted by kidchico:


One question about the GIMP:
I haven't dove into image editing a whole lot yet, but does the GIMP posess features similar to paint shop pro 7? Such as layering, lassoing and so forth?


Yes.
09/27/2004 06:44:56 PM · #45
I use PS7, Panarama Factory, and just started using Neat Image.

Does anyone know if you can upgrade from Educational Version PS7 to the NON-Educational version of PS CS...?
09/27/2004 06:52:59 PM · #46
Originally posted by ButterflySis:

I use PS7, Panarama Factory, and just started using Neat Image.

Does anyone know if you can upgrade from Educational Version PS7 to the NON-Educational version of PS CS...?


Originally posted by Adobe Store:

Adobe Photoshop CS Upgrade
To install upgrade successfully, you will need a licensed version of Photoshop 7.0 or earlier on the same platform as this purchase.
NOTE:Upgrade does not apply to Photoshop Elements, Photoshop Album, Photoshop Limited Edition, or PhotoDeluxe licensed users.


I'd say that's a yes as there is no restriction listed on the educational license. If you want a more definitive answer you can always contact Adobe directly through one of the methods listed here.

-Terry
09/27/2004 07:07:55 PM · #47
Photoshop 7.0

Youo can find it pretty cheap, (if you know were to look)
09/27/2004 07:08:09 PM · #48
As far as I know, the license will remain an educational license even when buying upgrades. When I upgraded to the CS suite I saw special gifts offered but there was a fine print stating that it was not available to educational licenses/upgrades which is what I have. You can still buy the regular upgrades from any source you want (Adobe, Buy, Amazon etc) but what ultimately matters is the license code. Actually, my original Photoshop 4 license is a regular one not educational but all my upgrades have been educational.

(edit typo)

Message edited by author 2004-09-27 19:09:59.
09/27/2004 09:10:49 PM · #49
Thank you. I will give them a call.

MrAkamai - That would stink... Thanks for the reply.
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