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10/08/2004 05:22:52 PM · #76
Originally posted by MadMordegon:

Russell, this is for you, from another thread. Your opinion of the US media is flawed. Educate yourself below.

PIPA / Knowledge Networks Poll - October 2 2003

PIPA / Knowledge Networks report


The list goes on and on. I wonder how the American public could come to such conclusions if nobody was saying or implying such things. Hmm.

Had the American media been liberal leaning as many say, there may not be a war. [/quote] [/quote]

Well, I educated myself and found that PIPA/KN is wrong, wrong, wrong. For just ONE example, it ASSUMES that those who believe that WMD were found in Iraq suffer from a misperception. In fact, multiple WMD have been found in Iraq - both Sarin and Mustard Gas at a minimum. After a Sarin Gas cartridge was found in an IED ( Improvised Explosive Device ) even former inspector Scott Ritter acknowledged that there were probably more:
"As a former UN inspector, I’m familiar with the level of disarmament achieved concerning Iraq’s banned weapons of mass destruction (WMD). And I’m comfortable with the fact that during my time in Iraq, 95 percent of the WMD produced by Iraq was verifiably accounted for...So there is a good possibility that at least 15 of these developmental Sarin artillery shells failed and lie forgotten in the Iraq desert, waiting to be picked up by any unsuspecting insurgent looking for raw material from which to construct an IED."
10/08/2004 05:25:14 PM · #77
*sigh*
10/08/2004 07:49:40 PM · #78
Never mind the question of who was it that conducted the survey, what was their goal, and what bias did they bring into it. They sort of jump right into their conclusions, without every really saying what it is they set out to determine. (You may be able to enlighten me - if I read everything you posted in its entirety, I'd be kept busy until after the Hillary campaign in 2008.)

I haven't taken any time to figure out who PIPA is (though I did notice the CFR, the common central whipping post for all good conspiracy theories of any political bent, mentioned on their home page), but one name did stand out on the credits page. Seems the survey was funded by the Rockefeller Brothers Foundation. Scroll down that page to see the top recipients of grant money from this foundation - quite a leftist who's who there. Of note is Tides Foundation & Tides Center, which is described as follows:

Now comes the Tides Foundation and its recent offshoot, the Tides Center, creating a new model for grantmaking -- one that strains the boundaries of U.S. tax law in the pursuit of its leftist, activist goals.

Set up in 1976 by California activist Drummond Pike, Tides does two things better than any other foundation or charity in the U.S. today: it routinely obscures the sources of its tax-exempt millions, and makes it difficult (if not impossible) to discern how the funds are actually being used.

In practice, “Tides” behaves less like a philanthropy than a money-laundering enterprise (apologies to Procter & Gamble), taking money from other foundations and spending it as the donor requires. Called donor-advised giving, this pass-through funding vehicle provides public-relations insulation for the money’s original donors. By using Tides to funnel its capital, a large public charity can indirectly fund a project with which it would prefer not to be directly identified in public. Drummond Pike has reinforced this view, telling The Chronicle of Philanthropy: “Anonymity is very important to most of the people we work with.”


Its my understanding that Theraaaaaza Heinz-Kerry has made extensive use of this foundation for laundering her charitable giving. (How's that for less-than-6 degrees of separation?) :)
10/08/2004 08:23:51 PM · #79
Originally posted by RonB:

There's another movie coming out on DVD next Tuesday, too - FarenHYPE 9/11 ( the rebuttal ).

Definitely need to see this DVD...

Trailers and other info available here
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