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04/19/2014 08:38:03 PM · #1
Maybe this could be fun.

Return to the 'good ole days' of film.

The Shoot
36 Exposures - A roll of 35mm film contained 36 exposures. That's all you've got.
One ISO - You couldn't change your ISO because it came with the film. Use only one ISO between 100 and 400. Don't change it.
One lens - Hard to change lenses in the middle of a roll (not impossible but hard). Better if it's a prime.
Shoot RAW - Film cameras had no internal processing for saturation, sharpening, etc. Neither do you.
No Preview - Film cameras couldn't show you what you took. Turn your LCD off.
No LiveView - You focused and composed through the view finder. Turn your LCD off.

The processing
Basic Editing - Be glad it's not minimal

The Gallery
Choose your one best and show us here.

Digital has made be better, but it's also made me lazy. Let's flex our photographer muscles.

No way to enforce the rules - be honest - be honorable.

In so far Let's see 'em.

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Message edited by author 2014-04-28 22:03:44.
04/19/2014 08:48:22 PM · #2
This sounds great. I'm in!
04/19/2014 08:49:50 PM · #3
I like the idea. However I rarely shoot RAW, except with my little Sigma, and I am unclear how we would reduce the file size and virtual (?) size to something appropriate for this here show and tell, without setting some sort of parameters or subscribing thereunto.
04/19/2014 09:01:26 PM · #4
I'm in. Just discovered a forgotten roll of film today that fits the criteria. Must be a sign!
04/19/2014 09:05:04 PM · #5
Why not just shoot the real thing?
04/19/2014 10:37:35 PM · #6
I believe the reference to raw is a bit of humor. There are no modes in film cameras to sharpen, soften, or otherwise manipulate the image. If you want it fancy, it has to be fancy going into the camera.
04/19/2014 11:27:01 PM · #7
what? I missed some humour?
04/19/2014 11:48:59 PM · #8
Oh, I missed the humor too. So this is about shooting the real thing. Count me in then!
04/20/2014 12:04:55 AM · #9
Just curious about this one... why are you suggesting it was hard to change lenses in the middle of a roll? I run a photography camp for kids every summer, and the first thing we do is shoot a roll of B&W film, and develop it at night. I do this as a demonstration to show kids how things were done "back in the day." I do this demonstration with a Nikon N6006 camera, and a fixed 50mm lens... but I'm at a loss to think of any reason why it would be hard to swap out lenses mid-roll...? It's exactly the same process as it is for any DSLR.

Originally posted by Dr.Confuser:


One lens - Hard to change lenses in the middle of a roll (not impossible but hard).


Message edited by author 2014-04-20 00:05:43.
04/20/2014 04:26:52 AM · #10
I noticed that weird rule too, think the Dr got Confused.
04/20/2014 10:41:39 AM · #11
So, are those of us who still have our SLR's and TLR's, rangefinders ect, to shoot a roll of film and scan the best resulting image, and the ones who have no film cameras are to shoot a "digital" roll of film by emulating the process with camera settings?
I agree, changing lenses on a SLR was about like changing lenses on a DSLR. It's a bit more effort on most rangefinders and some of the other film cameras.
The good Dr forgot the part about sending the film out to get processed, and waiting a week before viewing the images. It was like waiting for eggs to hatch. : )
04/20/2014 11:33:05 AM · #12
1/36 is easy.

how about show all ALL the images.

Message edited by author 2014-04-20 11:33:15.
04/20/2014 11:41:46 AM · #13
Originally posted by Mike:

1/36 is easy.

how about show all ALL the images.

And it seems like they should be 36 consecutive exposures ...
04/20/2014 01:09:47 PM · #14
Originally posted by Mike:

1/36 is easy.

how about show all ALL the images.

Yeah, this. Deletions from a true contact sheet would be glaring omissions. Scan the whole roll in strips of four to six frames each.

Do allow for 24 though, as that's the most readily available kind of film these days -- at least off the shelf in drugstores and big retailers. And 12 for those shooting medium format.
04/20/2014 02:01:13 PM · #15
This is an interesting thread. I think the original intent was to shoot digital, but with constraints as if you were shooting film. I like how it's morphed into actually shooting film. I had thought about that the other day. This morning, I dug out my dad's old Agfa rangefinder and my Rebel G. Who can recommend what kind of B&W film I should buy?

Message edited by author 2014-04-20 14:01:52.
04/20/2014 02:25:37 PM · #16
Originally posted by LN13:

This is an interesting thread. I think the original intent was to shoot digital, but with constraints as if you were shooting film. I like how it's morphed into actually shooting film. I had thought about that the other day. This morning, I dug out my dad's old Agfa rangefinder and my Rebel G. Who can recommend what kind of B&W film I should buy?

Kodak Tri-X 400 is a good all occasion black and white film. You can push it, pull it, or shoot it at box speed. It has lots of latitude and is hugely forgiving. If you shoot it, though, you're committing to either developing it yourself, or sending it out to be developed (unless you're luckily near one of the remaining full-service labs). What I mean to say is that the likes of Costco and Rite-Aid won't touch it, as they only develop 35mm color negative film. The exception to that would be chromogenic black and white film which is designed to be developed in color negative (C-41) chemistry. Kodak BW400CN is one such film.
04/20/2014 02:35:22 PM · #17
Coincidentally, I came *this close* to buying a Hasselblad 500 c/m on Friday, but then the deal fell through (seller discovered the lens was damaged before I got there). Damn. I want to do this. Need to get a film camera...
04/20/2014 03:11:06 PM · #18
Originally posted by LN13:

This is an interesting thread. I think the original intent was to shoot digital, but with constraints as if you were shooting film. I like how it's morphed into actually shooting film. I had thought about that the other day. This morning, I dug out my dad's old Agfa rangefinder and my Rebel G. Who can recommend what kind of B&W film I should buy?


I thought the same thing.... shoot 36 digital exposures as if they were film. Either way, I am in.
04/20/2014 04:12:05 PM · #19
Original intent: Yes, shoot with the constraints of film.

No lens change: I had a primative camera. Had to change lenses mid roll in a black bag. Hard for me.

36 Exposures: Of course they need to be consecutive! Film didn't give you 200 to choose 36 from.

RAW: Yep (glad some got the lame attempt at humor). But yes, no in camera processing at all.

Contact Sheet: Brilliant. With size limitations here, it'll be hard to see. Maybe a contact sheet and your one best. I LIKE that!

Film: I'm fine with real film scanned. Be interesting to see how it compares to digital.

This is shaping up, nicely!

Message edited by author 2014-04-20 17:22:27.
04/21/2014 12:38:42 AM · #20
Well, I'm not planning to participate (at least right now), but some cameras (like mine) don't shoot RAW, but I've always shot with the sharpening and cantrast settings left at the factory defaults -- I think that should be good enough. With a RAW processor your can do all kinds of things to a color negative not very many photographers could do at home, though it would make more sense to me if the end result is B&W -- much more home darkroom flexibility with that ...
04/25/2014 12:55:43 AM · #21
I'm okay with that.
Originally posted by GeneralE:

Well, I'm not planning to participate (at least right now), but some cameras (like mine) don't shoot RAW, but I've always shot with the sharpening and cantrast settings left at the factory defaults -- I think that should be good enough. With a RAW processor your can do all kinds of things to a color negative not very many photographers could do at home, though it would make more sense to me if the end result is B&W -- much more home darkroom flexibility with that ...


I'm okay with that. There is a considerable self enforced rules behavior here. If i can't trust you, who shall I trust.

Time to sign up: I'll post those entering in the OP. Let the games begin. Deadline Sunday May 4th midnight DPC server time.
04/25/2014 01:03:54 AM · #22
sign me up..
04/25/2014 07:49:20 AM · #23
Put me down as a maybe

if I do it, it will be with this:

//camerapedia.wikia.com/wiki/Agfa_Solina

Message edited by author 2014-04-25 10:50:57.
04/25/2014 09:51:06 AM · #24
I'm in. Shooting film, if I can figure out how my spiffy new Yashica Mat works. It has 3 dials, a button, a crank, and 2 lenses. How hard can this be?
04/25/2014 10:37:42 AM · #25
Originally posted by Ann:

I'm in. Shooting film, if I can figure out how my spiffy new Yashica Mat works. It has 3 dials, a button, a crank, and 2 lenses. How hard can this be?

Not hard once you figure it out. It's actually kind of fun to operate. My main problem with it is that it's like carrying a brick around. I pulled mine out yesterday (it's a warm weather camera for my purposes) only to find that the battery was dead.

PM me if you need help with it. It takes gaspworthy pictures...
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