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03/13/2014 01:24:38 PM · #1
And now -- the moment no one has been waiting for!! :)

Art for the Artless Jury results!

I thought it would be an interesting experiment to see what a jury, with absolutely no background in art, would pick for their top choices. Would we end up with eye candy? Would everyone pick the same thing? Would it be all over the board? I wanted to see what happened...

The jury wasn't picked -- it was simply anyone who signed up with no art background. This is our jury:

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We started out by picking our top 5 images, and picking a second tier of top 5. Everyone's top five were automatically included in the voting. The second tier images were only included if more than one person picked them.

We then discussed the photos and did a final "these are the ones I want to win, and these are the ones that are probably worthy" vote.

The interesting thing was: No photo received more than 50% of the votes. So there really was no "consensus". With our diverse backgrounds, yet lack of any training, it really came down to what spoke to us. And we found out that what spoke to us, was pretty unique, and very personal. In addition to the voting, each member was given the option of picking one photo that particularly spoke to them, even if no one else picked it.

These are our results:

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The horses in the sunlight is absolutely gorgeous, but that strikes me more as the perfect photograph than a work of art. It's spectacular in that you don't get these types of conditions so perfectly in photography. But it doesn't end up keeping my interest past it's incredible beauty. There doesn't seem to be anything that makes me curious, intrigued, or anything beyond "ooh, that's gorgeous!" It's the type of shot that I don't think I'd bother going back to after the challenge is over.

The horses in the field image really stood out as beautiful, magical, and a "piece of art", something that would look good printed and on a wall. If you really take it all in, you will see the sun rays, the sun shining through the tails of the horses and the stillness of it all. That does not necessarily say that it is "art" in terms of abstract with deep meaning as some of the images, but a beautifully photographed image.

I like the over all making of this image great color and composition the light coming through gives good detail and adds great effect

Not keen on the horses [for a choice]

Not keen on the horses either. ☺

The orange toning gives a strong first impression but the composition seems to be rather awkward. It tries to capture the mood but it seems to be contradicted by the color. This image does not work for me.

I know that this might sound rather strange, but I picked this image since it reminded me a great deal of a segment of my life that I found romantic, challenging and ever so full of surprises. This reminded me of my travels as a young man, the experiences I shared with my father and his love for animals. A life much simpler and devoid of the pratfalls that one must face in this ever changing technological world. This to me conveyed simplicity, a love of nature and a grass root affection for nature and the animals we have had the good fortune to encounter and befriend.

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While I think it is actually a well done piece of blur, it doesn't tell much of a story to me. And while it's visually interesting, there's nothing that holds my interest after I've seen it. Each time I look at it, it makes me think I'm done with it, and really wouldn't want to look at it again and again.

When I first opened it, I thought, YES, this is something that really calls to me. It is an incredibly simple image, but I find it very evocative. It is one of those photos where, for me, the sum is greater than the parts. I am transported into a bygone era, perhaps the 1960s; the colour palette and post-processing are partly responsible here, I think. Then I am taken on a journey - I want to know where the car is speeding to, I want to be in the car, on a summer's day, with a picnic, being driven by my beau! There is something dreamlike about this photo, a fantasy that is what ever the viewer wants to make of it.

The car image was also one of my choices. I am not sure why I am drawn to it, but I am. The title also adds to the image, where most do not. Without the title, it would not be so explainable. The color palette also took me to an era that matches the scene. The upper line, then the car, then the shadow, looked planned, but I know it wasn't. Is it art? I don't know, I just know that I like the simple, carefree time in life that it projects.

I HATE shots like the car shot. Yet... It's one of my faves in this challenge. It makes me feel free... off to explore new things I've never even known were there. I could look at it on my wall for many years and not tire of it... it would take me to so many different places. I'm surprised at myself. I hate stuff like that. :D

The car shot definitely provokes an emotion in me, that's for sure. It certainly does remind me of 'those carefree days' of my youth, when my father drove cars of much this type/vintage. And I hate a vast majority of those memories. So, in a very personal level, I would neither classify it as art nor hang it anywhere near my walls.

This image was also one of my choices. I am not sure why I am drawn to it, but I am. The title also adds to the image, where most do not. Without the title, it would not be so explainable. The color palette also took me to an era that matches the scene. The upper line, then the car, then the shadow, looked planned, but I know it wasn't. Is it art? I don't know, I just know that I like the simple, carefree time in life that it projects.

Growing on me -- not as much as others like it, but I do like the color palette, and I'm glad that others explained it. I can see where they're coming from. And though it would still not be on my list, I don't mind it being on the final list somewhere

Beach colors, high contrast and a blur. Simple and well composed. I have no memories of driving anywhere in a similar car so my impression is more of somebody elseís time.

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This one was tempting. It's different, it makes you wonder, but it didn't hold my interest very long. I guess it may be art, but I don't know that it's good enough art to make it into the top. It's boldness may deserve an HM, though. Still on the fence

This is an image that has clearly been crafted with incredible care and attention to detail, and yet it has an easy an almost spontaneous feel to it. The colour palette is reminiscent of 'Time Flies', my other favored selection, as is the composition. There is a sense of ambiguity surrounding the model (and here, rather disappointingly, I do see a model rather than a real woman) - what is the scenario, who is she, what emotions is she feeling - ecstasy, sorrow, pain? On a technical level, I wonder if the photograph was shot through scratched perspex - the effect is reminiscent of an old polaroid, carelessly stored.

This image looks like a simple image but if you give it a longer look you will see the symmetry, almost purposeful planning. The lines of the tub, the line of the arm, the graduated colors. I find it simple, moody and very artistic in approach.

Now I see it a different light yet, I had seen the model as standing against an arch rather than lying, clothed, in a bath tub. Dead, alive: ambiguous, indeed!

Another jurorís comment on the image encapsulates my view entirely - "hauntingly beautiful." The image is so carefully crafted, and yet appears effortless. The echoes of the curve are so elegant.

I don't like images that play with viewers emotions. This is such image.

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I find this image fascinating. It is not very picturesque, but the scene is somewhat bizarre in that I can't tell what it is on the fence and it looks like something from a bygone era. Maybe that is why I like it, just as some of the others in that it provokes memories of a time in the past. I think I would classify this as art just for those reason.

This one intrigued me a lot, but I didn't end up picking it, because I couldnt make up my mind whether the bokeh added or detracted from the image. I can live with this one as one of the choices somewhere in the list, because it makes you think and stirs up interesting emotions.

I am not sure of this image. I am guessing these are skins drying on a fence. The image looks heavily processed. It is more like art for artís sake. I wouldnít choose it for an art award.

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don't think the grain adds to this. I think it distracts from the image. However, I think the image is interesting enough to not be so picky on the processing. It's the
woman's face on the right that makes the shot. Without it, it wouldn't be even a 1/4 as interesting. It's the combination of the player and the woman that seem to both enhance and fight with each other. One of the few times where a picture splits your eye, making you go back and forth, and yet actually works.

I actually like the grain as it adds to the mood of the image. The woman's face really draws me in. The image as a whole makes me look longer to figure out what I am seeing. Is it a reflection? Is it someone serenading the commuters on the bus after a long day of work? It looks like a triptych and all parts are interesting. Street photography seems to have a free pass when it comes to art, although most of it is NOT, imo. This one is.

I went through the phase when I liked borders and used them a lot. Now I donít like them. I am not sure why this image needs a black outline. It is an interesting image but I donít think that the grain and B&W treatment are necessary. In summary the image would be better with a different PP.

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Great candid bridal image and the high key separates it from the normal bridal fare. I really like it and smile each time I view it. I see this like I do the wine and cheese ladies; it would standout in a "bridal art exhibit" but outside of that, I don't think it would be considered timeless art, however, I think it deserves some recognition.

A moment in life, a kind of strange moment. I liked the highlights completely blown and the choice of processing. The incomplete bits of the photograph along with the story works together to make something gel into art for me.

Hilarious, fun image. Great high contrast PP. A very artistic and unusual wedding photograph. Well worth an HM

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this image has no appeal to me at all. Maybe because I don't like modern art and this, to me, is modern art. So with that, I guess it does fit the "art" component.

I adore this one. It's intriguing and makes me sit back and just wonder. Plus the palette and lines are awesome.

This is one that was no on my initial list; however, after looking at your comments I can appreciate it more for "art sake".

This nearly made into my first selection of top 10; I am persuaded that it should rate higher. An intriguing image that asks more questions than it answers. An eye that isn't an eye, a stare that is blank. Deep, deep sorrow.

Very provocative, intense image. Somewhat depressing. He is looking at the window, towards the light but sees nothing real, so what did he see? An oval shape of a rectangular window? Something different and odd? I donít know but I am sure that this is art.

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A great moment in time. I like how the guy's head/stance seems to almost echo the poster. The light on his face seems a little unnaturally bright, but I can forgive that, because it's a nice story.

I like this image as a very well done photograph. The tones and scene are a great capture. It just does not say "art" to me.

I like B&W so this is a no brainer too me i like the processing and the fact how the guys is eying the camera just a great all round shot

I really like this image. The photographer has managed to capture the woman with an almost exact head tilt and an expression as the woman on the poster. The composition is great. It captures a lot of her environment, multiple doors, a phone and a cardboard box. They all indicate it is her working place, giving the photograph a context. The PP is very sharp high contrast. For me it is an exceptional street candid, well worth an art prize.

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It was my top choice in the first round. It is a great attempt to capture the passion and the energy of the tango. The blur captures the movement, the red floor and the lace amplify the passion. I looked up what yin yang is and that's a great title to emphasize the unity of the couple embraced in a dance. It is art depicting another art in a very successful manner. Well worth an HM, if not a ribbon.

I like the POV -- great choice, but the photo itself falls flat, imo. It's like it has the right pieces, but just not put together in the right way.

I immediately saw the yin yang reference and agree on that aspect; the perspective is different and good as well as the movement. The only thing about this image that does not appeal me is that the vivid red color is fighting for my attention. I would like to see what it looks like in B&W, although it may not stand out as well. I think it is artfully composed.

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I would like people to consider a little more. Even though it seemed like an ordinary photo, at first, the more I looked at the snowman, the more story it seemed to have. It seemed to tell more of older days, when life didn't have to be perfect. Where things were acceptable as they were.

I also like the snowman image and it might have gotten a nod from me if the scene had been a bit brighter. It looks a little depressing to me and so, not as appealing to my senses. It does not say "art" to me as much as it says "a slice of life". Maybe the two go hand in hand; I don't know.

Still adore it. I have a feeling it suffers greatly at 800 pixels. I do think some of the bottom and right could have been cropped, but not very much. It just makes such a statement to me.

For some reason it reminded me of Lost, the travelling penguin. Very weary, on last legs. Maybe had too much to drink..

The little bit depressing actually made it more intriguing for me.[/quote]

Message edited by author 2014-03-13 13:38:49.
03/13/2014 01:58:42 PM · #2
How interesting. Thank you all for doing this and posting all the variation of comments.
03/13/2014 03:37:17 PM · #3
Thanks so much for the award. That is a big honor. And thank you for all of the hard work. It will be fun to read all of the comments.
03/13/2014 03:46:32 PM · #4
What a treat to have another set of thoughts like this.

Thanks very much for the shared perspectives and the time taken to generate the comments.

Thanks for the award too.

Cheers

Paul
03/13/2014 04:59:47 PM · #5
Originally posted by Paul:

What a treat to have another set of thoughts like this.

Thanks very much for the shared perspectives and the time taken to generate the comments.

Thanks for the award too.

Cheers

Paul


well said
03/13/2014 06:57:43 PM · #6
All of these exercises are interesting and I read the comments with the same curiosity and pleasure that I get when people try to explain the ineffable. Congrats to the jurors and winners.
Definitely worth another try.

Have to add the interesting overlap of some of the pictures in the collective vote and the two juried ones.

Message edited by author 2014-03-13 19:00:58.
03/14/2014 12:09:50 PM · #7
Thanks for your hard work and your views, jury members! It was fun reading through the variety of comments. Great job!
03/14/2014 02:17:47 PM · #8
Thanks for the red ribbon guys! I have to say I really enjoy reading all those comments.

"With our diverse backgrounds, yet lack of any training, it really came down to what spoke to us".

I just have to say this applies to those of with all the training too, at least it does for me.

Thanks again!

: D
03/14/2014 02:34:02 PM · #9
Excellent work everyone. Great set of comments.
03/21/2014 05:00:23 PM · #10
Got this interesting article today about how another jury works -- thought people might be interested ...
What Do Photography Contest Judges Look for in Winning Photos?
Originally posted by linked article:

When the 2014 World Press Photo Awards were announced, some choices made perfect sense. Others were met with confusion. In the following video, jury chair Gary Knight explains some of the more complex decisions the panel had to make this year:
03/24/2014 07:53:59 AM · #11
This is wonderful and what great feedback! This is what I was looking for in a forum and a photography site! Well done and congrats to the winners.. good to know other pictures are being noticed..

What pictures did these all come from? Was it from a particular challenge or just in general or pictures submitted elsewhere?
03/24/2014 08:11:45 AM · #12
Originally posted by jgirl57:

This is wonderful and what great feedback! This is what I was looking for in a forum and a photography site! Well done and congrats to the winners.. good to know other pictures are being noticed..

What pictures did these all come from? Was it from a particular challenge or just in general or pictures submitted elsewhere?


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