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03/04/2014 06:33:01 AM · #1
I have just noticed colours are looking a bit odd in Photoshop CC. Note this is a new PC and also a relatively new install of Photoshop CC previously I have been using Photoshop CS6. However it is only today I noticed this issue though I have not probably done any photo editing on this new machine yet so the problem may have existed for a while.

The problem is that photos look fine when viewed outside photoshop in say Windows Photo Viewer or on my website. However in Photoshop they look completely different.

Here is a grab taken comparing the a photo in Windows Photo Viewer and Photoshop CC (the lower one)



Anyone have any idea what the problem is?

Note I am colour blind but I can still see there is some issue. I hope the Photoshop one is the incorrect one as I prefer the look of the photos outside photoshop.

Note also I have no knowledge of "calibration" and have not as far as I am aware done anything like this so if the problem is something related to this please give me a guide for colour blind dummies how to rectify this.

Note in case it is of any use my monitor is a Samsung SyncMaster 2232BW.

Thanks in advance for any help anyone can offer me.

03/04/2014 08:58:16 AM · #2
wait for kirbic to chime in on color space.
03/04/2014 10:21:07 AM · #3
Here's a possible solution I found. This link says the following:

"Even though you show your image as being in RGB, check to make sure that view setup is proper. In Photoshop, go to View->Proof Setup. I'd bet dollars to donuts it's set for Working CMYK. Change to Windows RGB."
03/04/2014 10:42:37 AM · #4
What she said. First thing to do is check Proof Setup.
03/04/2014 11:00:53 AM · #5
Originally posted by aliqui:

Here's a possible solution I found. This link says the following:

"Even though you show your image as being in RGB, check to make sure that view setup is proper. In Photoshop, go to View->Proof Setup. I'd bet dollars to donuts it's set for Working CMYK. Change to Windows RGB."


Thank you so much - that appears to be the issue. Not sure why this has changed but guess I may have changed a setting by accident or this was the default install of Photoshop CC.

Anyway when I open an image it does have Monitor RGB ticked. However if I select it again it then fixes the image. I have been tinkering around trying to fix thsi all day and did start messing with Edit - Color Settings and at one point had the following popup appear when I opened images



I continued tinkering and this no longer appears. Guess I am a little out of my depth with all these settings. Just happy to return to the default state of play that has worked fine for me for the last decade or more with Photoshop:) Though it may make more sense to read up on all this proof and color setting stuff as it could be helpful.

Thanks for all the help. I knew this is the one place I could be sure of some help:)

03/04/2014 11:30:37 AM · #6
Yay, glad it worked. Enjoy the rest of your day. :)
03/04/2014 11:46:19 AM · #7
Originally posted by aliqui:

Here's a possible solution I found. This link says the following:

"Even though you show your image as being in RGB, check to make sure that view setup is proper. In Photoshop, go to View->Proof Setup. I'd bet dollars to donuts it's set for Working CMYK. Change to Windows RGB."


Ha! This might actually be the fix for MY most recent color space issues.
03/04/2014 11:52:39 AM · #8
Originally posted by tanguera:

Originally posted by aliqui:

Here's a possible solution I found. This link says the following:

"Even though you show your image as being in RGB, check to make sure that view setup is proper. In Photoshop, go to View->Proof Setup. I'd bet dollars to donuts it's set for Working CMYK. Change to Windows RGB."


Ha! This might actually be the fix for MY most recent color space issues.


"Working CMYK" must be default, because that's what mine is on. I've not had color issues that I've noticed though. Perhaps I should pay more attention, lol.
03/04/2014 12:03:45 PM · #9
Michelle, on my screen, everything looks perfect. I only noticed it when I sent it to the printer's site. Once uploaded, it got that grayish tinge to it. I've checked all the places mentioned so far and everything is checked at RGB, not CMYK. This is one of those things that makes PS sooooo confounding. For something this critical, why is selecting the right space sooooo complicated????
03/04/2014 12:10:18 PM · #10
Checked my version of CC. It's on Working CMYK. However, the only RGB options I have are:
Legacy Macintosh RGB (I don't have a Mac)
Internet Standard (sRGB)
Monitor RGB

So which do I want? And do I want this on when I edit so that things will print as they look on my monitor?
03/04/2014 12:33:39 PM · #11
I've been told by someone who has worked in the color space field to never go near the "proof colors" option. It doesn't matter what your "proof setup" is -- just do not activate the proof colors option. And I agree. It shows you an estimated conversion, but the conversion isn't always accurate, so I've found it to be incredibly frustrating.

Your working space can be whatever you want, but there's little to no reason for it to not be sRGB. sRGB is the Internet standard (all browsers that don't specifically seek out color space info embedded in the image will display sRGB), and most printers - for sake of convenience - also use sRGB.

As a last step before you upload to DPC, send to a printer, etc., choose Edit -> Convert to profile, and then select the color space needed. (Image will not change.) For DPC, for example, you would choose sRGB. This makes sure that browsers that don't read the color space info will display sRGB (as they always do), and browsers that do read color space info will see that it's sRGB, not CMYK or any other color space you may be unknowingly working in (this would change the appearance).

Ridiculously confusing.
03/04/2014 12:41:20 PM · #12
Yes, what bohemka said - leave "proof colors" turned off unless you are proofing for a specific printer/paper combo. Soft proofing is not something you need for a DPC workflow. (assuming standard monitors)

Edit to add: also with the exception of color blindness - the newer versions of PS offer proofing for color blindness.

Message edited by author 2014-03-04 12:53:26.
03/04/2014 01:05:13 PM · #13
The simplest color management setup for a DPC workflow is to leave everything in sRGB. To do this go to Edit -> Color Settings and choose North American Web (or equivalent depending on the version of PS) The important setting here is the RGB setting (under Working Spaces) which should now be sRGB IEC(bunch of numbers). Also, under "Color Management Policies" make sure the drop down "Convert to working RGB" is selected. and check all three tick boxes. This will ensure any photos imported from another program are in the sRGB color space and will avoid the necessity to explicitly convert to sRGB before saving.
03/04/2014 01:07:14 PM · #14
The first step in any color management is to make sure your monitor is correctly calibrated. If it isn't calibrated correctly then none of your color setting will matter much.
03/04/2014 03:15:59 PM · #15
...and it appears that the only way to turn Proof Colors on is on an individual photo, not a global setting, or no? If that's the case, then perhaps Paul's problem really isn't completely solved?
03/04/2014 03:48:18 PM · #16
Originally posted by aliqui:

...and it appears that the only way to turn Proof Colors on is on an individual photo, not a global setting, or no? If that's the case, then perhaps Paul's problem really isn't completely solved?


You don't want it turned on, so it doesn't matter. If you have to turn on proofing to make your photos look correct then there are other problems. If you have proofing turned on and you select "Monitor RGB" it should look very similar to when you select "Windows RGB (or web sRGB)" A properly calibrated monitor will have very similar conversion numbers to any sRGB device. (Not talking wide-gamut monitors here.) Paul's problem is either he has the settings in PS wrong (see my above post) or his monitor is not calibrated correctly.
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