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01/27/2003 06:49:11 AM · #1
Ok please someone explain what exactly this challenge is please?

slightly confused
01/27/2003 07:04:16 AM · #2
Definition of cliche from www.dictionary.com


cli·ché also cliche
n.
1. A trite or overused expression or idea: “Even while the phrase was degenerating to cliché in ordinary public use... scholars were giving it increasing attention” (Anthony Brandt).
2. A person or character whose behavior is predictable or superficial: “There is a young explorer... who turns out not to be quite the cliche expected” (John Crowley).


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[French, past participle of clicher, to stereotype (imitative of the sound made when the matrix is dropped into molten metal to make a stereotype plate).]


Hmmm. I feel a sunset comming on.
01/27/2003 07:06:16 AM · #3
Basically photos of kids, pets, flowers, sunsets etc. If you can get a photo of a kitten smelling flowers whilst the sun sets, then you are onto a winner!
01/27/2003 07:32:54 AM · #4
Try to fit an egg and a chess piece in there, too!!!!
01/27/2003 07:58:19 AM · #5
computer keyboards
01/27/2003 09:19:41 AM · #6
Spiders would likely work too :)

There are certain types of photos that get entered every week, regardless of what the challenge is. You will almost always see a flower, a child, someones pet, or a flag. Often it has a title of 20 or more words trying to say why this 'flower' (or whatever) meets the technology (or whatever) challenge. There has also been at least one thread per week ranting about how sick someone is of seeing pet/flower/kid/sunset/whatever photos.

I think this challenge will be great since the folks that like these shots will have a challenge they actually meet, and the folks that complain about these shots will learn they are far harder to take then they seem to believe :)

Does that help explain it Hoogie?
01/27/2003 09:54:31 AM · #7
Hello to everybody!

I need your help... My english is not very good, and I don´t understand what is the essence of the cliche´s challenge. Is there anybody who speaks spanish? If somebody try to explain it to me in english... I need your help!!!
Thanks,


01/27/2003 10:24:28 AM · #8
Cliche's are word phrases, depending on who's defination you use they can be old proverbs, quotes, everyone knows them, they are those silly phrases Grandma used when you were little...such as...

Mind your P's and Q's.
Not worth a hill of beans.
You can't win them all.
Cute as a button.

And if you can't think of a cliche' do what I do a search and see if any cliche's pop up and inspire you...I'm still searching for one that works for me.
01/27/2003 10:34:49 AM · #9
It seems to me that this challenge topic should be more "Clichés in photography" or even "Clichés in DPC".
I get to this impression when reading the Challenge Details, where it reads "Pick a common photography subject, and take the best photo you can".
So you might be better off if you browes the previous challenges, look at the low rated submissions, check if they belong to some sort of cliché in the sence metioned above and shot.
A dictionary might not be of big help, because as far as I understood clichés are things like:
men can't cook
women can not drive
etc.

Jörg
01/27/2003 11:16:08 AM · #10


does anyone actually know what a cliche is ? ok the dictionary explanation was good, and technically some of those sayings were as well. but you can't take sayings and say they are cliche's you have to cliche them to make them cliche so if you win 10 billion dollars and lose it all in a casino .. that is cliche as you can't win them all .. but you had done until you lost a big one .. cliche .. because you had won them all but you all of a sudden fall into the bracket of the saying making you a cliche gambler. isn't that the way it works ?

it is going to be hard to capture that in one image, Sunset is a good one but it has to be a perfect sunset in my mind to be cliche because when do they ever happen.
In essence this photo is going to need a lot, a lot of content or none at all to make any sense in my mind. But thats where our imagination comes in. We come up with and idea, then try to take a photo that portays that idea to others.

Message edited by author 2003-01-27 11:20:57.
01/27/2003 11:34:38 AM · #11
Does a milk drop or liquid droping count as a cliche? I'm water/milk/liquid dropped out. But maybe I'll take one though as I consider that a cliche.
01/27/2003 11:41:24 AM · #12
I think this is more directed at photographic cliches. Try to recreate a tired old photographic subject - flowers, puppies, children and maybe realise that it is hard to do it well, in the process.
01/27/2003 11:45:19 AM · #13
What if I drop a cat in a bowl of milk and take a photograph of the splash?
01/27/2003 11:49:08 AM · #14
Originally posted by bamaster:

What if I drop a cat in a bowl of milk and take a photograph of the splash?


I'd give you a 9, do it during a sunset with a kid in the background and you get a 10!
01/27/2003 12:03:50 PM · #15
definitely this challenge isnt about portraying a cliche saying as a picture.

it's about taking a tired overused much done subject and taking the best possible picture of it.

hope that clears things up.


01/27/2003 01:51:29 PM · #16
Originally posted by magnetic9999:

definitely this challenge isnt about portraying a cliche saying as a picture.


definately to you maybe
top of the thread suggests a few others think it could be taken literally about photographing a literary cliche.

opinion is opinion, so just make a cliche how you want to.
01/27/2003 01:58:12 PM · #17
Originally posted by digitallywet:

Originally posted by magnetic9999:

definitely this challenge isnt about portraying a cliche saying as a picture.


definately to you maybe
top of the thread suggests a few others think it could be taken literally about photographing a literary cliche.

opinion is opinion, so just make a cliche how you want to.


Or you could read the challenge description which makes it pretty cut and dried.
01/27/2003 02:37:26 PM · #18
Originally posted by Gordon:



Or you could read the challenge description which makes it pretty cut and dried.


Exactly. Dont focus so much on the title of the challenge, instead look at the description of the challenge: "... Pick a common photography subject, and take the best photo you can." This is pretty clear.

Message edited by author 2003-01-27 14:37:39.
01/27/2003 02:52:50 PM · #19
lol.

how is it an opinion?

Read this:
Challenge Details: For all those who complain about the kids, flowers, and pets -- let's just see how well you can photograph them. Pick a common photography subject, and take the best photo you can. :-D

I agree that taking pics of a "cliche saying" might make for more interesting shots, but I remember when this challenge was first suggested way back when. Many people complain about dogs, flowers, kids, sunsets etc pics, yet those shots are seldom done well. So the point of the challenge was to get the people who complain to put their money where their mouth is and do the cliches WELL.

Make sense? :-D

Originally posted by digitallywet:

[quote=magnetic9999]definitely this challenge isnt about portraying a cliche saying as a picture.

opinion is opinion, so just make a cliche how you want to.


Message edited by author 2003-01-27 14:57:23.
01/27/2003 07:08:16 PM · #20
[quote=magnetic9999]

Read this:
Challenge Details: For all those who complain about the kids, flowers, and pets -- let's just see how well you can photograph them. Pick a common photography subject, and take the best photo you can. :-D

OK GUYS! every week we have someone asking about ways to interpret the challenge... this is probably the easiest one yet, don't have ideas?! LOOK in the challenge details, here's some ideas... kids... flowers... pets... right there, easy as can be, so why does everyone have to complain all the time. Take your best photo however you interpret the challenge, who cares what you get, this site isn't about winning, and I'll bet you'll still get helpful info from someone whether your photo fits the way everyone thinks it should or not. Don't worry about what other people think, just try your hardest, and enjoy taking the photo. If in doubt READ THE CHALLENGE DETAILS! Work within your own boundaries and ideas about the challenge not ones that everyone else sets for you every week! Creativity won't come, if everyone has to have the exact same picture, because thats what people vote high on!

P.S. my favorite, and my most creative photo was taken for the song titles challenge, and it scored the lowest I'd ever gotten. I still love it, and I know how hard I worked on it... but I shot the challenge as I saw it... GO AGAINST THE FLOW FOR ONCE! This site will be a lot more fun to judge if no one talked about the challenge before hand, and everyone entered their interpretations of the pictures! TRY IT! Ok, thats my opinion for the day <GRIN>

01/27/2003 07:52:46 PM · #21
Originally posted by RiderGal:

[quote=magnetic9999]

P.S. my favorite, and my most creative photo was taken for the song titles challenge, and it scored the lowest I'd ever gotten. I still love it, and I know how hard I worked on it... but I shot the challenge as I saw it... GO AGAINST THE FLOW FOR ONCE! This site will be a lot more fun to judge if no one talked about the challenge before hand, and everyone entered their interpretations of the pictures! TRY IT! Ok, thats my opinion for the day <GRIN>


Absolutely. I think one of the challenges we all face here is : do I shoot to please myself, learning in the process; or do I shot for score, sometimes producing a photo that is not what pleases us the most.

Your "Kissed by a Rose" shot was one of those I really liked. It must have taken a lot of effort to get the lighting right, in addition to the DOF. You could have produced a literal interpretation (rose on cheek), but it would not have had the impact - or personal satisfaction of your final.
Keep up the "out of the box" interpretations if they please you. OSme of us will enjoy the results.
Jim
01/28/2003 03:16:44 AM · #22
You got that right...lol
Originally posted by marbo:

computer keyboards
01/28/2003 04:26:29 PM · #23
I am so glad I read challenge details because I was thinking of a common used phrase, not a common used photo subject. I'm glad it's the latter. I hope that others are checking the details, based on this thread though, I think some folks are going to get it wrong, like I nearly did.
01/28/2003 04:31:00 PM · #24
remembering from other discussions, most people said the title is part of the photo? so in that regard, you could do a title cliche.
take a photo of something ordinary (pen, ball, sock, etc). then write a 20+ word title trying to describe why it's cliche.
01/29/2003 01:09:17 AM · #25
Originally posted by joanns:

I am so glad I read challenge details because I was thinking of a common used phrase, not a common used photo subject. I'm glad it's the latter. I hope that others are checking the details, based on this thread though, I think some folks are going to get it wrong, like I nearly did.


I am sure not everyone follows the discussions in this forum and also don't read the instructions properly. So I reckon we will be seeing a lot of photos next week depicting "Cliches" as a common phrase.
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