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01/25/2014 04:56:47 PM · #26
Thanks (jury) for all the work!
01/25/2014 07:12:09 PM · #27
Clive, a photo book as a prize is a fabulous idea (but what will you do with your accompanying music? Your photo essay was more a video art)
I keep on mumbling here to everybody to print some of their photos. Looking only on the screen is not enough and often unreliable.
So who will print, where etc
01/25/2014 07:29:49 PM · #28
Originally posted by mariuca:

(but what will you do with your accompanying music? Your photo essay was more a video art)


Well, the music was a very last minute addition. As was the text pretty much although i think that was more integral. I see it as a printed book, maybe an online book, more. This was where that photobook in a month website was really good. It's a shame that shut down. I do have some musician friends and it might be cool to do something similar with them in the future as a collaboration though.
01/25/2014 07:38:38 PM · #29
Originally posted by rooum:

Originally posted by mariuca:

(but what will you do with your accompanying music? Your photo essay was more a video art)


Well, the music was a very last minute addition. As was the text pretty much although i think that was more integral. I see it as a printed book, maybe an online book, more. This was where that photobook in a month website was really good. It's a shame that shut down. I do have some musician friends and it might be cool to do something similar with them in the future as a collaboration though.


Oh, and just to make it clear - my idea of giving a photobook as a prize next month was not of my essay! I'd just buy a book as a prize and choose it based on the winner. I'm often looking through books and thinking someone on DPC would love this guy. For example, the most recent book i bought was Martin Parr's 'The Non-Conformists' and it's a book that you or ' . substr('//www.dpchallenge.com/images/user_icon/21.gif', strrpos('//www.dpchallenge.com/images/user_icon/21.gif', '/') + 1) . ' Bvy would love. If i were to get a book for Cory or Don or others i might choose something else.
01/25/2014 08:09:34 PM · #30
Oh, and I do like Martin Parr. Fixing your link:

Martin Parr - The Non-Conformists
01/25/2014 08:28:53 PM · #31
I have to get this book NOW.
Great choice Clive this book and fabulous idea for the future.
Count me in your next challenge please.
01/25/2014 08:55:09 PM · #32
I am totally whelmed by the entries. (MIne was sort of joke). The differences, the intensity, the cohesion... And then the comments. I am only very slowly looking and beginning to imagine what I might say about any of them. Thank you all for being who you are.
01/25/2014 09:11:00 PM · #33
Thank you all
01/25/2014 09:19:18 PM · #34
A fantastic side-challenge! Congratulations to every one who entered and a big thank you to the judges and organizers.
01/25/2014 09:26:55 PM · #35
Originally posted by rooum:

I've put each separate page on DPC now which will be easier if people want to go back and forth - First page here then flick through... ' . substr('//images.dpchallenge.com/images_portfolio/100000-104999/102278/120/Copyrighted_Image_Reuse_Prohibited_1099818.jpg', strrpos('//images.dpchallenge.com/images_portfolio/100000-104999/102278/120/Copyrighted_Image_Reuse_Prohibited_1099818.jpg', '/') + 1) . ' (I've left in the numerous typos for now!)

Excellent work, thank you for posting it this way it works for me any anyone who can see DPC.

Typos? In Welsh? How can anyone tell ... ;-)
01/26/2014 12:16:19 AM · #36
Originally posted by cutout:

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lets say art is not his fortene to put it mildly


Talking crap is fine and good Jan, but how about you show us how its done properly.. I'll be looking forward to your next post here with a critique of each essay.
01/26/2014 01:38:51 AM · #37
Originally posted by cutout:

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. . .


Not true in my case. Here's the most "critical" part of what Cory had to say about my "essay" (seven faded and fading roses, well past their prime, captured just after a rain). "For me, however, I simply end up seeing this as a series of flower macros without real depth." I smiled and nodded when I read this. He is right on. Any depth this series may have assumed came after the fact. I loved reading the comments that found meaning in the grouping and they actually enhanced the images for me; but in all honesty, I must admit that my essay was exactly what Cory suggests here. And BTW, he was much more generous about my essay in his comments than this excerpt would indicate.

Thanks again to absolutely everyone who made this project such a success.
01/26/2014 05:31:07 AM · #38
Originally posted by Cory:

Originally posted by cutout:

its quite amusing that' . substr('//www.dpchallenge.com/images/user_icon/21.gif', strrpos('//www.dpchallenge.com/images/user_icon/21.gif', '/') + 1) . ' coryis missing the boat again and again and again
lets say art is not his fortene to put it mildly


Talking crap is fine and good Jan, but how about you show us how its done properly.. I'll be looking forward to your next post here with a critique of each essay.


My essay was for all intents and purposes not very photographic, not on par with the likes of the fine work done by most here. Let me also say, my comments would not be inspiring works of photographic criticism to be cherished throughout the ages. I think that because of the format, it is difficult to add comments here, the usefulness of a cumbersome comment post from me is limited. especially in light of all the work done so far.

Your comment was something to the effect "you start out saying save the city and then switch to take what you can and run-"

You seemed puzzled by this. This was the the very essence, the very twist added for effect. You missed it entirely. And missed the point of many others.

But, in your defense, your comments did not seem mean-spirited. I found it kind of refreshing to have a "lowest common denominator" or "dpc everyman's" opinion in there with the other judges. There is perhaps much value in any honest opinion, (although there is rich irony in proclaiming the shallowness of entries when the point is often missed.)

Making art is about risking laughs from the peanut gallery. Risking being misunderstod. There will always be people who stare at a Monet and say "it's only white canvas" or look at a Picasso and say "my 4 year old could have done this." So in the end it's all good and for your part in sponsoring, promoting or thinking up the challenge- good on you.

Message edited by author 2014-01-26 05:33:25.
01/26/2014 11:28:58 AM · #39
Thanks to the jury for all the hard work. The photo essays were amazing and the jury comments are icing on the cake.
01/26/2014 12:35:43 PM · #40
Originally posted by blindjustice:

Originally posted by Cory:

Originally posted by cutout:

its quite amusing that' . substr('//www.dpchallenge.com/images/user_icon/21.gif', strrpos('//www.dpchallenge.com/images/user_icon/21.gif', '/') + 1) . ' coryis missing the boat again and again and again
lets say art is not his fortene to put it mildly


Talking crap is fine and good Jan, but how about you show us how its done properly.. I'll be looking forward to your next post here with a critique of each essay.


My essay was for all intents and purposes not very photographic, not on par with the likes of the fine work done by most here. Let me also say, my comments would not be inspiring works of photographic criticism to be cherished throughout the ages. I think that because of the format, it is difficult to add comments here, the usefulness of a cumbersome comment post from me is limited. especially in light of all the work done so far.

Your comment was something to the effect "you start out saying save the city and then switch to take what you can and run-"

You seemed puzzled by this. This was the the very essence, the very twist added for effect. You missed it entirely. And missed the point of many others.

But, in your defense, your comments did not seem mean-spirited. I found it kind of refreshing to have a "lowest common denominator" or "dpc everyman's" opinion in there with the other judges. There is perhaps much value in any honest opinion, (although there is rich irony in proclaiming the shallowness of entries when the point is often missed.)

Making art is about risking laughs from the peanut gallery. Risking being misunderstood. There will always be people who stare at a Monet and say "it's only white canvas" or look at a Picasso and say "my 4 year old could have done this." So in the end it's all good and for your part in sponsoring, promoting or thinking up the challenge- good on you.


Don't doubt that I'm able to fantasize a meaning out of anything - it's a built in ability for all humans. Might be difficult to believe, but I can even manage a non-prosaic comment if I should feel the need. (I rarely do, I try to keep my imagination where it belongs - locked in the basement of my mind) I took art courses in college - you have to learn to critique art just exactly as Don et al. does - frankly though, it often felt wrong and dishonest to me, when I knew I was just creating non-existent 'deep' connections to the work - what I delivered here was absolutely honest.

My comments were meant to be much as you took them - an 'every-man' reaction - if the 'meaning' wasn't reasonably clear, and explicable, then I didn't attempt to create one, and my imagination stayed home on this one. I am glad you enjoyed them - but as you said - perhaps there is a bit of 'rich irony' in what you missed. In my mind, you cannot trust the comments from those who 'get' everything and have wonderful things to say about all the entries- you should know that it's forced in at least a few cases - I suspect for fear of being called out as 'not getting it'... I myself considered taking the 'college art course' approach, but in the end decided that a more honest approach would feel better to me.

And yes, yours puzzled me - the shift from "save the cities" to "Screw you I'm out" wasn't prompted or explained really, it just happened, the shift was seemingly without reason.

I would be interested in your interpretation of the intent though, since I perhaps really did miss the meaning and genesis of that abrupt shift.

Personally, I think Jan's just being pissy because I dismissed his essay as having no depth. (the metaphors were so painfully obvious a child could have said the 'right things')

Message edited by author 2014-01-26 12:38:24.
01/26/2014 12:57:04 PM · #41
looking forwards to the next one
01/26/2014 01:25:01 PM · #42
Originally posted by cutout:

looking forwards to the next one


There is something we both agree on. :)
01/26/2014 02:01:21 PM · #43
Originally posted by Cory:

Originally posted by cutout:

looking forwards to the next one


There is something we both agree on. :)


maybe will do something with puddles:)
01/26/2014 02:18:17 PM · #44
So, are there already any thoughts on how to do the next challenge? A regular monthly one with the deadline being the last day of the month?
01/26/2014 04:14:34 PM · #45
Originally posted by rooum:

So, are there already any thoughts on how to do the next challenge? A regular monthly one with the deadline being the last day of the month?


I thought I would start a thread called February Photo Essay Side Challenge.

People could use the thread to "workshop" their photo essays, or just talk about them. Then at the end of the month I would start another thread called February Photo Essay Showcase, where people could post their "final" essays.
01/26/2014 04:20:27 PM · #46
That sounds perfect. I'll make a post in the workshop with my plan to give out a prize etc.
01/26/2014 04:30:33 PM · #47
Originally posted by rooum:

That sounds perfect. I'll make a post in the workshop with my plan to give out a prize etc.


Extremely cool prize idea Clive! And awesome of you to do so. WOW! :D

DPC'ers are awesome.
01/26/2014 07:06:36 PM · #48
Originally posted by posthumous:

Originally posted by rooum:

So, are there already any thoughts on how to do the next challenge? A regular monthly one with the deadline being the last day of the month?


I thought I would start a thread called February Photo Essay Side Challenge.

People could use the thread to "workshop" their photo essays, or just talk about them. Then at the end of the month I would start another thread called February Photo Essay Showcase, where people could post their "final" essays.


This has been a very interesting experience, very positive. The judging panel's comments are a fascinating read. I too hope for this to continue.

I want to comment on the essays, but I can't figure out how. A PM to the photog is too private. Putting all my comments in one post on this thread seems too self-aggrandizing. Quoting the original & adding comments seems too disorganized. [sigh] I'm tortured by indecision.
01/26/2014 07:14:55 PM · #49
Originally posted by pixelpig:

I want to comment on the essays, but I can't figure out how. A PM to the photog is too private. Putting all my comments in one post on this thread seems too self-aggrandizing. Quoting the original & adding comments seems too disorganized. [sigh] I'm tortured by indecision.

For that reason, I would like to see some, not rules per se, but standardization around how essays are submitted. For my own, I added a collection to my portfolio, which enabled viewers to navigate the set using the previous/next thumbnails in the upper left. Of course, I went to some pains to get them in the right order. And folks consistently commented on the first or last image...

Just some thoughts. Multimedia-type photoessays (like Clive's) are obviously harder since they must be hosted elsewhere. But in his case, I was happy to see that he followed up with a DPC-friendly version.
01/26/2014 07:22:19 PM · #50
Just wanted to say thanks to the jury and Don and Cory for doing this...this is the sort of thing I just love about DPC. I'm looking forward to next months essay challenge.

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