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05/18/2015 01:24:12 PM · #1
Perhaps this explains why I distrust the police so deeply.

The most distinctive causes of death by state.
05/10/2015 11:41:59 AM · #2
S.F. DA hires three retired judges to review cases potentially tainted by police bias
05/07/2015 11:55:40 AM · #3
Mentally ill man beaten, tasered, and shocked in his genitals. This one was so bad that hospital security and medical staff had to stop the jail guards.

Message edited by author 2015-05-07 11:56:20.
05/06/2015 03:04:20 PM · #4
Chicago approves $5 million reparations fund for victims of police torture (mostly audio)

Another version (includes transcript)
05/05/2015 07:51:18 AM · #5
The Civics Teacher Who Turned His Arrest Into A Classroom Lesson
05/05/2015 07:18:45 AM · #6
One from Miami today.

Cop punches cuffed woman in face.
05/05/2015 07:11:18 AM · #7
Originally posted by GeneralE:

Here's a case from the Bay Area, though I'm not sure what good all the video will do if it's just ignored ... :-(


Being a disgusting bitch shouldn't justify having half your face shattered.
05/04/2015 09:40:39 PM · #8
Here's a case from the Bay Area, though I'm not sure what good all the video will do if it's just ignored ... :-(
04/24/2015 01:30:35 PM · #9
Body Cam goodness - Deputy jumps fence, shoots homeowner's dog
04/22/2015 02:03:16 PM · #10
After 20 Years On 'The Job,' NYC Police Officer Tells His Intense Stories -- this interview was pretty interesting ...
04/22/2015 01:48:01 PM · #11
Originally posted by Cory:

Well, at least they're learning. This time it would appear they did the deed inside a locked van, away from pesky cameras.


Reason number 4,771 to have body cam's.
04/21/2015 09:32:07 AM · #12
Well, at least they're learning. This time it would appear they did the deed inside a locked van, away from pesky cameras.
04/20/2015 09:07:44 PM · #13
Originally posted by RayEthier:

Originally posted by Cory:


Whatever the reality - it's a certainty that increased liability will increase responsible decision making (and will probably cost a few officers greatly for NOT pulling the trigger, but that's why we call them heroes isn't it??)


Not all that well versed in what you call police officers my friend, but I can tell you that most officers I have known have been called a lot of things, but Hero is not something that is all that common. :Ò)

Ray

Oakland is one of those places with a history of tense (sic) relations between the police and the population in general, but when four officers were killed in the line of duty there was a lot of support -- the service filled Oracle Arena -- and slide #2 indeed refers to them as heroes ...

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04/20/2015 08:17:51 PM · #14
Originally posted by Cory:


Whatever the reality - it's a certainty that increased liability will increase responsible decision making (and will probably cost a few officers greatly for NOT pulling the trigger, but that's why we call them heroes isn't it??)


Not all that well versed in what you call police officers my friend, but I can tell you that most officers I have known have been called a lot of things, but Hero is not something that is all that common. :Ò)

Ray
04/20/2015 04:07:24 PM · #15
Originally posted by nygold:

Saved by body cam

This guy is alive today because the cop had a body cam.

See you don't always have to shoot.


Some would claim it's because he's white(ish)...

Whatever the reality - it's a certainty that increased liability will increase responsible decision making (and will probably cost a few officers greatly for NOT pulling the trigger, but that's why we call them heroes isn't it??)
04/20/2015 01:59:16 PM · #16
Saved by body cam

This guy is alive today because the cop had a body cam.

See you don't always have to shoot.
04/14/2015 01:49:20 PM · #17
Turned himself in???

The cops should have gone to his house guns drawn beat the piss out of him and cuffed him in front of his family.

Oh wait this is the cop that shot someone not the other way around.

Never mind.
04/13/2015 04:29:01 PM · #18
Originally posted by Cory:

"Fuck your breath"

Poor officer - ya gotta really feel for the guy, as he was apparently just the victim of a 'slip and capture'.. 100% the fault of the guy who died. Yep.


We got to see it on cop cam.
04/13/2015 03:02:01 PM · #19
"Fuck your breath"

Poor officer - ya gotta really feel for the guy, as he was apparently just the victim of a 'slip and capture'.. 100% the fault of the guy who died. Yep.

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04/11/2015 06:44:25 PM · #20
Originally posted by Cory:

[quote=RayEthier]
... So, on this point, you should recognize that I'm proposing a major staffing reduction, the equipment is cheap and of no consequence.

ETA: By major, I mean 75%.


I would totally support that, particularly as it relates to the military type of equipment and the reduction of personnel who perform what is essentially and administrative functions.

I remember that prior to retiring the brass asked what I would do to cut some 20% of the costs, and I suggested major cut backs in all of the functions that could be performed by people other than police officers.

My job was cut and I retired from the RCMP.

Would I do it again... definitely. Truth be told, I much prefer my life post retirement from the police force.

Ray
04/11/2015 06:40:02 PM · #21
Originally posted by nygold:



If I'm not mistaken didn't you say you were a cop in a remote area of Canada?
Ray you don't know how good you have it but some day you'll have to take the blinders off. There is a whole world out there.
We don't all get to flash a badge and have an officer do an about face.


Actually, in my years in the RCMP I worked on reservations, small communities, VIP Protective Services and IT Security. Have I worked in remote areas of the country, most assuredly, but I have also worked in places like Montreal, Toronto, Ottawa which are no so remote areas of Canada. I have also had the pleasure of working with security specialists from a variety of countries.

It may come as a shock to some, but I am quite familiar with a good portion of the world and probably have visited more of it than many on this site.

Your comment about flashing a badge might work where you are but I can assure you that it is not likely to work in these parts. We have seen police officers charged with domestic violence, speeding, DUI and a host of other crimes. I personally have paid for a few speeding tickets since I have always felt that the laws were for everyone and that by paying for a ticket I didn't owe anyone anything.

Sad that you have such a jaundiced view of the police in general, but then again I have no idea as to what you have experienced with the representatives of law enforcement.

Have a great day and the best of luck to you.

Ray
04/11/2015 06:20:55 PM · #22
Originally posted by RayEthier:

Originally posted by Cory:

Originally posted by RayEthier:



Great... does that mean our taxes will go down?

Ray


The savings could be huge, also consider the reduction in lawsuits.


Actually, all we would be doing is adding to the costs, unless of course the various departments are willing to get rid of some of the more military style of equipment.

The sad thing is that most police departments are being asked to cut back on expenditures and throwing something that will add costs in not likely to fly and get by those who control the purse strings.

Ray


Gawd, it's pile on Ray day, and I'm sorry for that, because I damn well know you are one of the good guys.

So, on this point, you should recognize that I'm proposing a major staffing reduction, the equipment is cheap and of no consequence.

ETA: By major, I mean 75%.

Message edited by author 2015-04-11 18:22:01.
04/11/2015 02:16:02 PM · #23
Originally posted by RayEthier:

Originally posted by nygold:



For every bad cop there's a good cop that knows the truth and doesn't speak.
I don't know what's worse.


Someday we will need to sit down and talk about your experience with representatives from the field of law enforcement that enables you to make such a comment.

It is gratuitous and very insulting to those thousands of police officers out there who risk their lives on a daily basis.

Are there bad police officers out there, you bet there are and there does exist a need to identify them, weed them out and have them fact the music.

I probably know more about the police environment than most in this venue and can tell you that (in this country at least) they are the only individuals that can be charged with the same offence in two totally different venues.

I most definitely am not excusing the blatant illegal activities we have been witnessing of late, but I do find it sad that we as a society are quite ready to tar and feather a whole group because of the actions of a few.

Ray


If I'm not mistaken didn't you say you were a cop in a remote area of Canada?
Ray you don't know how good you have it but some day you'll have to take the blinders off. There is a whole world out there.
We don't all get to flash a badge and have an officer do an about face.
04/10/2015 05:44:01 PM · #24
Originally posted by Cory:

Originally posted by RayEthier:



Great... does that mean our taxes will go down?

Ray


The savings could be huge, also consider the reduction in lawsuits.


Actually, all we would be doing is adding to the costs, unless of course the various departments are willing to get rid of some of the more military style of equipment.

The sad thing is that most police departments are being asked to cut back on expenditures and throwing something that will add costs in not likely to fly and get by those who control the purse strings.

Ray

04/10/2015 05:41:13 PM · #25
Originally posted by nygold:



For every bad cop there's a good cop that knows the truth and doesn't speak.
I don't know what's worse.


Someday we will need to sit down and talk about your experience with representatives from the field of law enforcement that enables you to make such a comment.

It is gratuitous and very insulting to those thousands of police officers out there who risk their lives on a daily basis.

Are there bad police officers out there, you bet there are and there does exist a need to identify them, weed them out and have them fact the music.

I probably know more about the police environment than most in this venue and can tell you that (in this country at least) they are the only individuals that can be charged with the same offence in two totally different venues.

I most definitely am not excusing the blatant illegal activities we have been witnessing of late, but I do find it sad that we as a society are quite ready to tar and feather a whole group because of the actions of a few.

Ray
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