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08/01/2013 11:51:07 AM · #26 |
Originally posted by scalvert:
Originally posted by Mike:
i'm tired of hearing that argument. changing ones style to get better votes isn't a challenge, its a compromise. |
The whole point of DPC is to get you OUT of that comfort zone. When your "style" is reliant upon a particular editing technique, then you effectively shut out any prospect for growth by trying new and different approaches... and you're left with lamenting how something else doesn't change to suit you. |
that a pretty sweeping generalization, i try new techniques and styles all the time, i regularly get out of my comfort zone, i just never submit them here because they usually break an editing rule or dont turn out so well. I have actually noticed more improvement in my photography since i stopped participating and i actually defined a style for myself. that would have never happened had i been tied to dpc.
this mindset that you have to do this or that in order to grow is shallow. everyone grows on their own.
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08/01/2013 12:05:27 PM · #27 |
Originally posted by MAK:
I tend to agree with Calvert here.. this is a Photography site really and not a 'look what I can do in Photoshop' site, YES digital art does have its place but so does 'real' Photography too and IMO it takes precedence over a persons ability to create 'art' from a series of average photographs. I think the Free Study should be Basic or Minimal editing so we can see the Photographers eye. My opinion only of cause. |
no one is talking about digital art, you guys need to get over your fears of digital art talking over the universe, its not going to happen.
we are talking about personal preferences here, i think most photography is boring as hell even if it looks pretty. i dont get what makes some photographs "art" and others not.
this place is getting too smug with what photography is or isn't.
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08/01/2013 12:10:53 PM · #28 |
i just noticed how appropriate this the thread title is.
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08/01/2013 12:11:17 PM · #29 |
am misunderstood once again
Votes: 22
Views: 52
Avg Vote: 4.7727
Comments: 0
hold the bus
im coming |
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08/01/2013 12:13:03 PM · #30 |
Originally posted by vawendy:
Votes: 20
Views: 39
Avg Vote: 6.4000
Comments: 0 |
Nice score! How's that holding up? :-) |
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08/01/2013 12:14:55 PM · #31 |
Originally posted by Mike:
Originally posted by MAK:
I tend to agree with Calvert here.. this is a Photography site really and not a 'look what I can do in Photoshop' site, YES digital art does have its place but so does 'real' Photography too and IMO it takes precedence over a persons ability to create 'art' from a series of average photographs. I think the Free Study should be Basic or Minimal editing so we can see the Photographers eye. My opinion only of cause. |
no one is talking about digital art, you guys need to get over your fears of digital art talking over the universe, its not going to happen.
we are talking about personal preferences here, i think most photography is boring as hell even if it looks pretty. i dont get what makes some photographs "art" and others not.
this place is getting too smug with what photography is or isn't. |
Im a Photographer not a digital artist so I have no fears, Apples & Oranges |
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08/01/2013 12:22:38 PM · #32 |
...only because i want to keep this thread on track instead of it becoming a debate thread.
Votes: 22
Views: 48
Avg Vote: 5.7727
Comments: 1 |
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08/01/2013 12:28:34 PM · #33 |
Votes: 26
Views: 50
Avg Vote: 5.8077
Comments: 0 |
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08/01/2013 12:54:50 PM · #34 |
Originally posted by Mike:
this mindset that you have to do this or that in order to grow is shallow. |
Works both ways, Mike: it's shallow to suggest that rules should be different to suit your particular idea of growth. There is value to being challenged to work within specific parameters rather than finding your own way. That's how schools function. It's the difference between teaching each other to become better photographers (the stated intent of DPC) and individual exploration. You may find other avenues that interest you beyond the constraints of DPC rules, and that's fine, but it's not a prerequisite for growth or creativity here.
Oh, and and on score front I've dropped below 7. Send sympathy or scorn as appropriate. |
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08/01/2013 12:59:42 PM · #35 |
Originally posted by scalvert:
Oh, and and on score front I've dropped below 7. Send sympathy or scorn as appropriate. |
Your loss is my gain, I guess -- up a bit to 6.5.
Feel free to keep sending the points my way. :)
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08/01/2013 01:10:54 PM · #36 |
Originally posted by vawendy:
Your loss is my gain, I guess -- up a bit to 6.5.
Feel free to keep sending the points my way. :) |
No, give em back! |
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08/01/2013 01:22:19 PM · #37 |
Originally posted by scalvert:
Originally posted by vawendy:
Your loss is my gain, I guess -- up a bit to 6.5.
Feel free to keep sending the points my way. :) |
No, give em back! |
Nope!! They're mine! Mine mine mine mine! All mine!
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08/01/2013 01:46:56 PM · #38 |
Originally posted by vawendy:
Nope!! They're mine! Mine mine mine mine! All mine! |
Apparently so. Still dropping, so my entry is misunderstood, the voters aren't looking hard enough, there's trolls, something about editing limitations, or 800 px is too small. It's gotta be one of those. |
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08/01/2013 02:05:27 PM · #39 |
Originally posted by scalvert:
Originally posted by vawendy:
Nope!! They're mine! Mine mine mine mine! All mine! |
Apparently so. Still dropping, so my entry is misunderstood, the voters aren't looking hard enough, there's trolls, something about editing limitations, or 800 px is too small. It's gotta be one of those. |
or it just sucks. |
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08/01/2013 02:28:18 PM · #40 |
Originally posted by Mike:
or it just sucks. |
Shhhh! Nobody ever considers that possibility. It's definitely the troll/editing limit/lightning voter/misunderstood/file size thing. |
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08/01/2013 02:49:35 PM · #41 |
Well I clearly don't have a clue what DPC likes any more. The photo I expected to fail hopelessly is still going UP:
Votes: 26
Views: 51
Avg Vote: 5.8077
Comments: 3
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08/01/2013 02:50:14 PM · #42 |
Votes: 25
Views: 56
Avg Vote: 6.2000
Comments: 0
No comments but happy with the score so far |
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08/01/2013 02:52:18 PM · #43 |
Originally posted by scalvert:
Originally posted by Mike:
or it just sucks. |
Shhhh! Nobody ever considers that possibility. It's definitely the troll/editing limit/lightning voter/misunderstood/file size thing. |
One entry that sucks... Ha! I've got 3 of them! You can't beat me :p
Message edited by author 2013-08-01 14:53:03. |
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08/01/2013 02:56:21 PM · #44 |
I am with  scalvert here dropping below 7, damn you trolls/editing limit/lightning voter/misunderstood/file size thing/non arteeeeeeest people/.my photo does not suck! BWhhahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa (<~~~ my best evil laugh BTW)
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08/01/2013 03:01:19 PM · #45 |
Originally posted by Mike:
i just noticed how appropriate this the thread title is. |
so, Mike... can you tell us which other site you are competing at so we can come over, too? ;-) naw, i'm just teasing ya.
at least for me, my scoring here goes in cycles. i was really sucking wind a while back, but seemed to be hitting it spot on recently, and now indications of another downturn. i let "what will score well" play some part of what i shoot and how i process, but definitely not everything. and shots i predict are going to be "meh" often really surprise me and score high, and vice-versa.
i really think you have a good portrait style, which i am terrible at, so you will likely always do better than me in people shots.
you need to do what you need to do, but i have found DPC to challenge me over the past few years, and has definitely improved my photo AND processing skills.
and all that being said, back to our regularly scheduled programming...
i am at a terrible 4.9 on my FS |
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08/01/2013 03:07:56 PM · #46 |
Originally posted by JulietNN:
I am with scalvert here dropping below 7, damn you trolls/editing limit/lightning voter/misunderstood/file size thing/non arteeeeeeest people/.my photo does not suck! BWhhahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa (<~~~ my best evil laugh BTW) |
My excuse is that I'm an artist misunderstood in my own time. But just you wait, after I'm dead and gone, I'll be FAMOUS!! Then we'll see who's laughing. It won't be me, of course.
I'm at 6.7. I hope my score passes you and Shannon on your way down while I'm on the way up! I'll be sure to wave. ;-)
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08/01/2013 05:24:08 PM · #47 |
I have my royal wave all ready for you  scarbrd ;P |
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08/01/2013 05:55:29 PM · #48 |
Originally posted by scarbrd:
I hope my score passes you and Shannon on your way down while I'm on the way up! I'll be sure to wave. ;-) |
I'll wave back, but won't promise to use all fingers. |
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08/01/2013 07:45:35 PM · #49 |
I will say that the one great point Mike made was that DPC does tend to steer one away from having a 'style'
I've recently come to the conclusion that I do need to start working on a series or two, and some recurring styles.
DPC demands a very flexible shooter, but the market demands a consistent style (generally speaking anyway)....
There is a bit of tension there, but essentially, DPC's restrictions are exactly what makes it special IMO. |
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08/01/2013 07:46:46 PM · #50 |
Oh, and the blind idiot lighting voters don't get my photo because it's too small and they're all trolls.
Votes: 29
Views: 58
Avg Vote: 4.4138
Comments: 1
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